Texas law effectively banning Critical Race Theory in classrooms leads to inclusion of Holocaust denialism materials

[C1500]

Some people just aren't hardwired to handle complex individuals, and that's ok.

I don't dig CRT. I like guns and am Pro2A. I can't stand American Fundamentalist Evangelicalism. I believe [insert Nicene Creed]. I can't stand most unions but I value workers' rights. I believe quality public education is the key to a viable representative Republic but I absolutely detest the federal department of education and standardized testing companies. I believe a strong itinerant worker visa policy is part of the solution to border and immigration issues, especially when coupled with a robust border security program. I love our Armed Forces, make legislative contacts for veterans issues, and take flag code seriously.

Where do you stand on States rights vs how much control the federal government can have over the states?

If you want a simple little box to shove me in for simplicity's sake, just call me human. That'll cover the complexity.

In this world where you can identify as anything your mind can think up, you just pick human? Come on man, be wild and free.

 

[AshG]

Do you belive crt is liberal ideology? If so do you believe the actions in the article are in retaliation for the Texas ban on crt?

I believe that CRT is liberal in the hands of liberal scholars and neutral in the hands of centered researchers. I will almost always support the gathering and studying of data, but believe the data should be used to reach consensus rather than act as a rod to knock people over the head with.

I don't believe the actions by the administrator in making the recommendation was retaliation. I believe it was a reaction to the fact he knows there's a very small but very vocal contingent of Holocaust deniers who will use the situation for publicity and he wanted to get out and ahead of it. It backfired.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I believe that CRT is liberal in the hands of liberal scholars and neutral in the hands of centered researchers. I will almost always support the gathering and studying of data, but believe the data should be used to reach consensus rather than act as a rod to knock people over the head with.

I don't believe the actions by the administrator in making the recommendation was retaliation. I believe it was a reaction to the fact he knows there's a very small but very vocal contingent of Holocaust deniers who will use the situation for publicity and he wanted to get out and ahead of it. It backfired.

Lol. Crt is nothing but hate. It has no place in schools. I realize that you are I academia but CRT is nothing more than socialist propaganda. It's nothing more than brainwashing. This and other leftist practices has done more harm to race relations in this country than if they just left things alone.

 

[AshG]

Where do you stand on States rights vs how much control the federal government can have over the states?

I see each state as its own entity, with the federal government existing to assist in the coordination of free and fair enterprise, trade, travel, and protection among the states.

I would prefer to hear about a coalition of states representatives led by Tennessee supporting a bill that's opposed by a coalition of states representatives led by Florida than I would any more of this R and D ********. Would make more sense, anyway.

In this world where you can identify as anything your mind can think up, you just pick human? Come on man, be wild and free.

I have implants in my head (for my hearing) and an artificial limb, so I could legitimately identify as cyborg.

 

[C1500]

I see each state as its own entity, with the federal government existing to assist in the coordination of free and fair enterprise, trade, travel, and protection among the states.

I would prefer to hear about a coalition of states representatives led by Tennessee supporting a bill that's opposed by a coalition of states representatives led by Florida than I would any more of this R and D ********. Would make more sense, anyway.

If only. I know its a fine line, but I have always thought a state should always have a final say about their state. Tennessee worries about TN, New York worries about New York.

As for D's and R's Washington said it best. "However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." 1796

I have implants in my head (for my hearing) and an artificial limb, so I could legitimately identify as cyborg.

Well you need a partner? You are in luck my friend. Sophia the robot wants a baby and says family is 'really important'

 

[AshG]

Well you need a partner? You are in luck my friend. Sophia the robot wants a baby and says family is 'really important'

I think my wife would be jealous, but thanks for the recommendation.

 

[AshG]

Lol. Crt is nothing but hate. It has no place in schools. I realize that you are I academia but CRT is nothing more than socialist propaganda. It's nothing more than brainwashing. This and other leftist practices has done more harm to race relations in this country than if they just left things alone.

Do you know why CRT came to be? In part, it was a response to revisionist histories being codified in textbooks. Textbooks used in public and private schools alike, encouraging students to refer to slaves as immigrants or servants, including homework assignments requiring students to list potential benefits of slavery, claiming that slaves were happy with their lot in life, etc.

Many textbooks actively use black and white scans of color images from the Civil Rights era to make it appear that it was longer ago than it actually was.

CRT is a response to the teaching of an intentionally incomplete history.

 

[allvol123]

Do you know why CRT came to be? It was a response to revisionist histories being codified in textbooks. Textbooks used in public and private schools alike, encouraging students to refer to slaves as immigrants or servants, including homework assignments requiring students to list potential benefits of slavery, claiming that slaves were happy with their lot in life, etc.

Many textbooks actively use black and white scans of color images from the Civil Rights era to make it appear that it was longer ago than it actually was.

CRT is a response to the teaching of an intentionally incomplete history.

Well when you put it that way….still no thanks.

 

[AshG]

Well when you put it that way….still no thanks.

So we fix the textbooks then, yes?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Do you know why CRT came to be? It was a response to revisionist histories being codified in textbooks. Textbooks used in public and private schools alike, encouraging students to refer to slaves as immigrants or servants, including homework assignments requiring students to list potential benefits of slavery, claiming that slaves were happy with their lot in life, etc.

Many textbooks actively use black and white scans of color images from the Civil Rights era to make it appear that it was longer ago than it actually was.

CRT is a response to the teaching of an intentionally incomplete history.

I don't give two shatswhat it was in response to. As a matter of fact I don't believe it. I was never taught anything like you describe. My kids were never taught what you describe. It's more liberal indoctrination bull ****.

Oh, and I'm 100% sure if they used black and white photos I'm sure it was probably because color photography didn't exist 160 years ago.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, you continue to justify this liberal/socialist crap.

 

[RockyTop85]

Do you know why CRT came to be? It was a response to revisionist histories being codified in textbooks. Textbooks used in public and private schools alike, encouraging students to refer to slaves as immigrants or servants, including homework assignments requiring students to list potential benefits of slavery, claiming that slaves were happy with their lot in life, etc.

Many textbooks actively use black and white scans of color images from the Civil Rights era to make it appear that it was longer ago than it actually was.

CRT is a response to the teaching of an intentionally incomplete history.

I’ve never done any sort of significant study of CRT or been very interested in it, but I had not heard this before.

My understanding is that critical race theory developed from Critical Legal Studies, which came about roughly a decade after passage of the Civil Rights Act to theorize about the stagnant condition of African American communities despite the emphasis on facially race neutral laws.

My understanding of critical theory, more broadly, is that it provides a critique of a society that draws from multiple social sciences to attempt to explain societal flaws and attempts to use historical context to explain how those flaws came to be in order that they be remedied more easily.

As I understand it then, critical race theory posits that the relationship between races in the United States is a complex social construct that is a product of multiple factors with a specific focus on US history and it continues to be perpetuated by the effects of those historical developments such as the accumulation of resources by white Americans, creating sort of a feedback loop that was not broken by the passage of the Civil Rights Act.

 

[AshG]

I don't give two shatswhat it was in response to. As a matter of fact I don't believe it. I was never taught anything like you describe. My kids were never taught what you describe. It's more liberal indoctrination bull ****.

I knew you wouldn't, and that's ok. You don't need to believe it for it to be truth.

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Oh, and I'm 100% sure if they used black and white photos I'm sure it was probably because color photography didn't exist 160 years ago.

I went back and reviewed the data. Even though you incorrectly identified the time of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement, you are right that most of the pictures were black and white. That error is on me.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, you continue to justify this liberal/socialist crap.

You were so close to seeing beyond the chains of dogma. I appreciated the bit of conversation we did have where you put aside the need for bias and labels. There is hope

 

[AshG]

I’ve never done any sort of significant study of CRT or been very interested in it, but I had not heard this before.

My understanding is that critical race theory developed from Critical Legal Studies, which came about roughly a decade after passage of the Civil Rights Act to theorize about the stagnant condition of African American communities despite the emphasis on facially race neutral laws.

My understanding of critical theory, more broadly, is that it provides a critique of a society that draws from multiple social sciences to attempt to explain societal flaws and attempts to use historical context to explain how those flaws came to be in order that they be remedied more easily.

As I understand it then, critical race theory posits that the relationship between races in the United States is a complex social construct that is a product of multiple factors with a specific focus on US history and it continues to be perpetuated by the effects of those historical developments such as the accumulation of resources by white Americans, creating sort of a feedback loop that was not broken by the passage of the Civil Rights Act.

I appreciate what you bring to the table with this. There are others, unfortunately, who will not.

 

[RockyTop85]

I appreciate what you bring to the table with this. There are others, unfortunately, who will not.

The opinions of people who are 100% sure that they’re sure that the Civil Rights Era was probably 160 years ago, before color photography, aren’t super interesting to me.

 

[NEO]

Do you know why CRT came to be? It was a response to revisionist histories being codified in textbooks. Textbooks used in public and private schools alike, encouraging students to refer to slaves as immigrants or servants, including homework assignments requiring students to list potential benefits of slavery, claiming that slaves were happy with their lot in life, etc.

Many textbooks actively use black and white scans of color images from the Civil Rights era to make it appear that it was longer ago than it actually was.

CRT is a response to the teaching of an intentionally incomplete history.

Black and white is cheaper to mass produce than color. Think you are reaching here.

 

[DonjoVol]

When you have to put everyone into a category based on manufactured political dogma instead of just letting people be themselves, that kind of makes you immature. I hate to break it to you.

Then how about people like you stop putting people into categories yourself.

 

[McDad]

I knew you wouldn't, and that's ok. You don't need to believe it for it to be truth.

Removing Slavery from Textbooks - The Prindle Post
How One State History Textbook Erases the Stories of Black and Hispanic Texans
How history textbooks reflect America’s refusal to reckon with slavery
Texas Revises History Education, Again | Perspectives on History | AHA




I went back and reviewed the data. Even though you incorrectly identified the time of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement, you are right that most of the pictures were black and white. That error is on me.



You were so close to seeing beyond the chains of dogma. I appreciated the bit of conversation we did have where you put aside the need for bias and labels. There is hope

Each link has a factoid or two and the rest is opinion. Not good resources.

 

[Septic]

I don't give two shatswhat it was in response to. As a matter of fact I don't believe it. I was never taught anything like you describe. My kids were never taught what you describe. It's more liberal indoctrination bull ****.

Oh, and I'm 100% sure if they used black and white photos I'm sure it was probably because color photography didn't exist 160 years ago.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, you continue to justify this liberal/socialist crap.

How long ago do you think the Civil rights era was?

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Books on Holocaust should be balanced with 'opposing' views, Southlake school leader tells teachers

As the result of confusion stemming from a Texas bill designed to prevent discussion of Critical Race Theory in classrooms, administration in one school district are telling teachers they must include books that provide "alternate theories" to the Holocaust if they keep any books that discuss the Holocaust in their classrooms.

I guess if you can deny the Bible you can deny the Holocaust.

 

[InVOLuntary]

How long ago do you think the Civil rights era was?

What difference does that make? Is that some kind of excuse to indoctrinate or punish the children of today?

 

[InVOLuntary]

I knew you wouldn't, and that's ok. You don't need to believe it for it to be truth.

Removing Slavery from Textbooks - The Prindle Post
How One State History Textbook Erases the Stories of Black and Hispanic Texans
How history textbooks reflect America’s refusal to reckon with slavery
Texas Revises History Education, Again | Perspectives on History | AHA




I went back and reviewed the data. Even though you incorrectly identified the time of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement, you are right that most of the pictures were black and white. That error is on me.



You were so close to seeing beyond the chains of dogma. I appreciated the bit of conversation we did have where you put aside the need for bias and labels. There is hope

Oh, that makes all the difference in the world. "We must indoctrinate. We must brain wash the children today because of what happened in the 60's."

Is this some form of reparations?

This exactly what I'm talking about. Your continued defending of liberal left wing extreme ideology is exactly why I don't believe you when you say you don't share those liberal values. You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[AshG]

Oh, that makes all the difference in the world. "We must indoctrinate. We must brain wash the children today because of what happened in the 60's."

Is this some form of reparations?

This exactly what I'm talking about. Your continued defending of liberal left wing extreme ideology is exactly why I don't believe you when you say you don't share those liberal values. You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

Plato's cave.

 

[DonjoVol]

Oh, that makes all the difference in the world. "We must indoctrinate. We must brain wash the children today because of what happened in the 60's."

Is this some form of reparations?

This exactly what I'm talking about. Your continued defending of liberal left wing extreme ideology is exactly why I don't believe you when you say you don't share those liberal values. You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

He seems like he's more of a blue pilled libertarian or left libertarian. These types of libertarians cater to the cathedral media and the woke left. Gary Johnson and Jo Jorgensen are prime examples.

 

[InVOLuntary]

He seems like he's more of a blue pilled libertarian or left libertarian. These types of libertarians cater to the cathedral media and the woke left. Gary Johnson and Jo Jorgensen are prime examples.

Yeah, I refer to them as liberaltarians. I have friends like that.

 

[AshG]

He seems like he's more of a blue pilled libertarian or left libertarian. These types of libertarians cater to the cathedral media and the woke left. Gary Johnson and Jo Jorgensen are prime examples.

Keep trying to find a box to put people in. Othering makes them easier to dismiss.