Thank You, Nick Saban.

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Nicky has brought a game "won in the trenches" style back to popularity through victory. But in reality all he has done is win when the league is at a competitive low point across the board. SEC teams outside of UAT and UF quite frankly sucked this year.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Nicky has brought a game "won in the trenches" style back to popularity through victory. But in reality all he has done is win when the league is at a competitive low point across the board. SEC teams outside of UAT and UF quite frankly sucked this year.
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He's taken a team from .500 to the favorite in the National Championship in three seasons.
 
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kptvol said:
He's taken a team from .500 to the favorite in the National Championship in three seasons.
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Which is to be commended, and just going undefeated is an accomplishment. But don't pretend he had to run the gauntlet to get there. He has the team that is two years ahead of the rest of the league's rebuilding efforts.
 
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hatvol96 said:
A National Title is a crapshoot. There are a whole bunch of factors outside your control.
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Yep. All you can do is build a team and a program that puts itself in contention of a fairly regular basis and trust that the chips will fall your way eventually.

milohimself said:
Sucks to say this, but after what I've seen I will be surprised if he beats Meyer and Saban in the same year.
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It's a tough order, but the truth is that you don't really have to. 1-loss SEC champions are going to be playing for national titles on a very regular basis.

Put teams on the field that consistently compete with the best in the country and things will work out.
 
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milohimself said:
Why ask that? Asking if Lane will win the SEC is the only relevant question.

Sucks to say this, but after what I've seen I will be surprised if he beats Meyer and Saban in the same year.

But, I'm also confident we can make it to Atlanta some time soon. Then it's just one game.

Ultimately nobody has seen enough of Kiffin to determine anything one way or the other.
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milo, I agree with all of this. I like a lot of the things I see from Kiffin--the brash, fearless attitude; the killer instinct; the emphasis on recruiting in his staff selection--but I don't think we'll really know what kind of coach we've got for another two years. The ingredients are there, but you have to wait to see if the cake rises.
 
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cotton said:
milo, I agree with all of this. I like a lot of the things I see from Kiffin--the brash, fearless attitude; the killer instinct; the emphasis on recruiting in his staff selection--but I don't think we'll really know what kind of coach we've got for another two years. The ingredients are there, but you have to wait to see if the cake rises.
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Well put. My friends and I have said the same thing. We love the attitude and recruiting, now lets go wins some big games.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Nicky has brought a game "won in the trenches" style back to popularity through victory. But in reality all he has done is win when the league is at a competitive low point across the board. SEC teams outside of UAT and UF quite frankly sucked this year.
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Actually, his greatest accomplishment is that he did exactly what I said he'd do: Run The Fired Coach's posterior out of the SEC. For that, UT fans owe Saban their eternal gratitude.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Actually, his greatest accomplishment is that he did exactly what I said he'd do: Run The Fired Coach's posterior out of the SEC. For that, UT fans owe Saban their eternal gratitude.
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I think you're missing some credit owed to Wyoming, Vanderbilt and UCLA.
 
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Getting him fired was a lengthy process due to the proverbial "good ole boy" network, but I have to believe that the loss to Vandy in '05 was the crux of the first crack in that now-broken dam.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Which is to be commended, and just going undefeated is an accomplishment. But don't pretend he had to run the gauntlet to get there. He has the team that is two years ahead of the rest of the league's rebuilding efforts.
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Capitalizing on the down years is what good coaches do. If our previous guy had been able to do that, we'd have at least two SEC championships since 2000.

And even if the league is down, based on the way they whipped Florida last weekend, I'm not sure it would have really mattered.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Which is to be commended, and just going undefeated is an accomplishment. But don't pretend he had to run the gauntlet to get there. He has the team that is two years ahead of the rest of the league's rebuilding efforts.
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Yeah, navigating the Brad Scott, Ray Goff, Curly Hallman, Mike Dubose, Hal Mumme Murderer's Row of the late '90s was tough.
 
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milohimself said:
Getting him fired was a lengthy process due to the proverbial "good ole boy" network, but I have to believe that the loss to Vandy in '05 was the crux of the first crack in that now-broken dam.
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I agree, but I'm not so sure he was gone if it wasn't obvious that Bama would be way in front of UT while Fulmer was still here.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, navigating the Brad Scott, Ray Goff, Curly Hallman, Mike Dubose, Hal Mumme Murderer's Row of the late '90s was tough.
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You must be confused. Saban's tenure in the SEC post dates most of these clowns.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Which is to be commended, and just going undefeated is an accomplishment. But don't pretend he had to run the gauntlet to get there. He has the team that is two years ahead of the rest of the league's rebuilding efforts.
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How long did it take for him to rebuild? He gets no credit for beating the reigning national champions in year three?
 
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UT IE 95 said:
You must be confused. Saban's tenure in the SEC post dates most of these clowns.
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That's my point. That list of boobs, buffoons, and babbling idiots are the guys your boy The Fired Coach padded his resume against. The idea the SEC is weaker now than then is utter silliness.
 
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kptvol said:
Capitalizing on the down years is what good coaches do. If our previous guy had been able to do that, we'd have at least two SEC championships since 2000.

And even if the league is down, based on the way they whipped Florida last weekend, I'm not sure it would have really mattered.
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They squeaked by some average teams coupled with a schedule loaded with the likes of the 'Nooga, FIU, and North Texas.

Are they good. Yes. They whipped a UF team that has been offensively poor all season and took a defensive shot earlier in the week. Not completely dissimilar to the defensive effort UT put forth after losing our starting strong safety.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
They squeaked by some average teams coupled with a schedule loaded with the likes of the 'Nooga, FIU, and North Texas.

Are they good. Yes. They whipped a UF team that has been offensively poor all season and took a defensive shot earlier in the week. Not completely dissimilar to the defensive effort UT put forth after losing our starting strong safety.
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Which college football coaches in your mind are better than Saban?
 
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hatvol96 said:
That's my point. That list of boobs, buffoons, and babbling idiots are the guys your boy The Fired Coach padded his resume against. The idea the SEC is weaker now than then is utter silliness.
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In a few years you'll be able to add Chizik, Petrino, Brooks, along with a washed up Spurrier to your list.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Which college football coaches in your mind are better than Saban?
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I'm not sure I could rank them top to bottom. Breaking it into levels I would put Saban in the top level of college coaches based solely on his short tenures at LSU and UAT. He's proven that when given good players he can win games.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That's my point. That list of boobs, buffoons, and babbling idiots are the guys your boy The Fired Coach padded his resume against. The idea the SEC is weaker now than then is utter silliness.
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UT IE 95 said:
They squeaked by some average teams coupled with a schedule loaded with the likes of the 'Nooga, FIU, and North Texas.

Are they good. Yes. They whipped a UF team that has been offensively poor all season and took a defensive shot earlier in the week. Not completely dissimilar to the defensive effort UT put forth after losing our starting strong safety.
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Both equally irrelevant, IMHO. In the SEC, you line up and play top level college football teams multiple times every year. When you do that for a season and beat every one of them, you've accomplished something, whether that was against Ray Goff or Urban Meyer without Carlos Dunlap.

The knock against Fulmer issn't beating a bunch of guys that got fired; it is that he could no longer do that once they were replaced, and whether that is because he slipped or the competition got better doesn't matter. Aside from being at Alabama and possibly worshipping the devil, I can't really find a knock against Saban.
 
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