That's racist!

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Orangeslice13 said:
If I could hire black people cheaper then I’d only have black employees.
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It amazes me every time we try to hire labor.....they want cash only so they can still collect.....when I tell them that I do not operate like that, they get pissed at ME......and yes, they are all black......just a fact.....
 
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k-town_king said:
Every single study on pay shows the fact that white men and women make more than black, Latin, or Native men. Nothing to do with employment rates. Which btw are a result or racist hiring policies.

You can't argue with facts. Stop making all these dumb azz anecdotal posts about your cousin or wife or how your company supposedly pays everyone the same or hire minorities first.


It's been proven by multiple studies black people get hired and interviewed less than white candidates who are LESS qualified.

It's been proven when hired we make less than those with the same or worse qualifications.

There is no argument you can make about pay. Only racist BS to minimize what the facts are.

The facts, data, and multiple studies showing the bias doesn't matter. Your racism and ignorance won't allow you to acknowledge the truth that 90% of Americans know to be true.
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Since Nancy Pelosi considers going to the welfare office to pick up a check "a job", is that included in the study? Those "jobs" should be dialed out of the study if so.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Starbucks admitted it was racist, fired the manager, and is closing stores to engage in further racial bias training, and there are still people in this thread saying it wasn't racist. That should tell you all you need to know.
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You are talking about a handful of stores.....what about the other 7995 stores they are closing because they over saturated the market and opened a store on every other dang corner.....the "training" is a cover.....
 
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k-town_king said:
Every single study on pay shows the fact that white men and women make more than black, Latin, or Native men. Nothing to do with employment rates. Which btw are a result or racist hiring policies.

You can't argue with facts. Stop making all these dumb azz anecdotal posts about your cousin or wife or how your company supposedly pays everyone the same or hire minorities first.
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The problem isn’t the fact. It’s your misrepresentation of the facts. Those studies show the median pay for white people vs black people.

The median white person is 43. The median black person is 26.

The issue is your misunderstanding of statistics.

Why would you expect the average 26 year old to make the same amount as the average 43 year old?
 
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Vol8188 said:
The problem isn’t the fact. It’s your misrepresentation of the facts. Those studies show the median pay for white people vs black people.

The median white person is 43. The median black person is 26.

The issue is your misunderstanding of statistics.

Why would you expect the average 26year old to make the same amount as the average 43year old?
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BECAUSE they are black.......DUH.......
 
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k-town_king said:
Every single study on pay shows the fact that white men and women make more than black, Latin, or Native men. Nothing to do with employment rates. Which btw are a result or racist hiring policies.

You can't argue with facts. Stop making all these dumb azz anecdotal posts about your cousin or wife or how your company supposedly pays everyone the same or hire minorities first.


It's been proven by multiple studies black people get hired and interviewed less than white candidates who are LESS qualified.

It's been proven when hired we make less than those with the same or worse qualifications.

There is no argument you can make about pay. Only racist BS to minimize what the facts are.

The facts, data, and multiple studies showing the bias doesn't matter. Your racism and ignorance won't allow you to acknowledge the truth that 90% of Americans know to be true.
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Everything you are talking about is literally illegal. Under the Equal Pay Act the EEO Commission was set up to investigate instances of discrimination in hiring and performance management. The issue with several academic studies being conducted is that they don’t look at all factors such as education and experience. The vast majority of the time, employee experiences differ. Same with education. If you have a BA in liberal arts, it doesn’t qualify you for an engineering job. Just like if you are entry level, you won’t make the same as an employee with more seniority and experience. That is fact. Look up the federal law. If these injustices are happening, then they should be reported and lawsuits should follow.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Everything you are talking about is literally illegal. Under the Equal Pay Act the EEO Commission was set up to investigate instances of discrimination in hiring and performance management. The issue with several academic studies being conducted is that they don’t look at all factors such as education and experience. The vast majority of the time, employee experiences differ. Same with education. If you have a BA in liberal arts, it doesn’t qualify you for an engineering job. Just like if you are entry level, you won’t make the same as an employee with more seniority and experience. That is fact. Look up the federal law. If these injustices are happening, then they should be reported and lawsuits should follow.
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When equal jobs + experience are compared, it's equal.

Hiring for the company where I work goes like this:
1) Women first, minorities better.
2) POC
3) White males.

That's just how it is. This was in an email a year or so ago from our HR department. I thought it was grounds for legal action but no one has *****ed yet so I guess not.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
When equal jobs + experience are compared, it's equal.

Hiring for the company where I work goes like this:
1) Women first, minorities better.
2) POC
3) White males.

That's just how it is. This was in an email a year or so ago from our HR department. I thought it was grounds for legal action but no one has *****ed yet so I guess not.
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they shouldn't be putting that in writing. it is grounds for legal action.
 
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T-TownVol said:
You are talking about a handful of stores.....what about the other 7995 stores they are closing because they over saturated the market and opened a store on every other dang corner.....the "training" is a cover.....
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We all do this sometimes. You know, the old saying that sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're not the sharpest tool in the shed than say what you're thinking and prove it. I don't typically buy Starbucks. If they depended on folk like me there would be no Starbucks. Now, I agree they are approaching saturation in the US, But that has nothing to do with the racial bias training issues.

Read the plan they have to implement racial bias training and what it will cost them. This is for real.

Why the Starbucks racial bias training is more than just good PR.
 
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golfballs said:
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Milk: The new symbol of racism in Donald Trump's America - Washington Times
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
We all do this sometimes. You know, the old saying that sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're not the sharpest tool in the shed than say what you're thinking and prove it. I don't typically buy Starbucks. If they depended on folk like me there would be no Starbucks. Now, I agree they are approaching saturation in the US, But that has nothing to do with the racial bias training issues.

Read the plan they have to implement racial bias training and what it will cost them. This is for real.

Why the Starbucks racial bias training is more than just good PR.
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I concur with the racial training issue, I'm referring more to the fact of why they're closing so many stores. Not the fact that they are just closing for an afternoon of training. Many actual stores are closing permanently.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
We all do this sometimes. You know, the old saying that sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're not the sharpest tool in the shed than say what you're thinking and prove it. I don't typically buy Starbucks. If they depended on folk like me there would be no Starbucks. Now, I agree they are approaching saturation in the US, But that has nothing to do with the racial bias training issues.

Read the plan they have to implement racial bias training and what it will cost them. This is for real.

Why the Starbucks racial bias training is more than just good PR.
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According to the article all they should do is allow loitering.

Done.
 
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