That's racist!

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just curious what has/would removal fix or make better?

Racists are still going to racist, snow flakes are still going to melt. Germany has its stumbling stones, a constant reminder of their dark deeds, yet the jews aren't over there digging them up and being offended over them.

and at least as far a the solider themselves and what they stood for, I thought we were far enough advanced to separate the individual from the subject of the war. Vietnam as a great example. Joe Blow Reb wasn't fighting over slavery. There were less than 400,000 slave owning families out of a population of 8,289,782 (freemen only) in the slave holding states. that's less than 5% of the population as slave owners. http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html I am willing to bet pennies vs dollars that that 5% did not make up a sizable percentage of the guys doing the fighting. probably about double the base population.

undoubtedly you have the racists that take pride in a General's statue, but I would say most other people care because of a family tie. They care because their great great whatever served under that guy and he was a famous general. I would say the split is probably similar to slave owners vs not.

so again what are you fixing vs what are you removing?
 
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LouderVol said:
just curious what has/would removal fix or make better?

Racists are still going to racist, snow flakes are still going to melt. Germany has its stumbling stones, a constant reminder of their dark deeds, yet the jews aren't over there digging them up and being offended over them.
and at least as far a the solider themselves and what they stood for, I thought we were far enough advanced to separate the individual from the subject of the war. Vietnam as a great example. Joe Blow Reb wasn't fighting over slavery. There were less than 400,000 slave owning families out of a population of 8,289,782 (freemen only) in the slave holding states. that's less than 5% of the population as slave owners. http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html I am willing to bet pennies vs dollars that that 5% did not make up a sizable percentage of the guys doing the fighting. probably about double the base population.

undoubtedly you have the racists that take pride in a General's statue, but I would say most other people care because of a family tie. They care because their great great whatever served under that guy and he was a famous general. I would say the split is probably similar to slave owners vs not.

so again what are you fixing vs what are you removing?
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I want my reparations from the whole world. Germany and Europe for executing and being complicit in the Holocaust. Egypt for enslavement. The Middle East for killing and wanting to kill more of my people. America for refusing to accept Jews in large numbers that were trying to flee Europe. Everyone. Even D4H. He owes my people too.
 
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How long until statues of the Founding Fathers are taken down because many were slaveholders? How long until their literature is banned from libraries/schools? How long until historical buildings are torn down because they were owned by the "undesirables"?
 
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Godfatha said:
How long until statues of the Founding Fathers are taken down because many were slaveholders? How long until their literature is banned from libraries/schools? How long until historical buildings are torn down because they were owned by the "undesirables"?
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Not long, already seen a story about taking a shot at Washington. What boggles my mind is that there are counties in the south literally named Jefferson Davis and they are going after statues.
 
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Godfatha said:
How long until statues of the Founding Fathers are taken down because many were slaveholders? How long until their literature is banned from libraries/schools? How long until historical buildings are torn down because they were owned by the "undesirables"?
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Don't worry it's coming. They've already started turning their attention to the Founders. Some school districts have banned "To Kill a Mocking Bird" because it contains the "n" word. Columbus Day will soon be referred to as Indigenous People’s Day. Honestly I thought it would take a few years to get to this point, but we're already here.
 
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NashVol11 said:
How do you know there aren't already millions of black people trying to solve those problems?
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I personally think many are. If they arent, I hope they will. Sorry to burst your bubble here, but black people need to stop withthe pity party, whitey is evil everything crap. Plenty of black people have come from nothing and made great lives for themselves. Its not white people that keeps black people down. Its themselves. Stop blaming everything negative that happens to a black person as racist. Its pathetic.
 
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DynaLo said:
You're being intentionally obtuse. The platform was available to bring this into the light for civil discourse and it was never broached, because either it didn't matter a whole heck of a lot then or it wouldn't create the violent impact it has now, or both. Watching the media and politicians play this out is making it look more and more like both is the correct answer, and that's a damn shame for this country as a whole.
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It didn't matter much to most people then, absolutely. Obama wasn't going to change that. Should he have tried? Maybe, but this is happening because of Charlottesville, not because of Trump. It's not that violent now anyway, most cities and campuses are just removing them overnight
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I personally think many are. If they arent, I hope they will. Sorry to burst your bubble here, but black people need to stop withthe pity party, whitey is evil everything crap. Plenty of black people have come from nothing and made great lives for themselves. Its not white people that keeps black people down. Its themselves. Stop blaming everything negative that happens to a black person as racist. Its pathetic.
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If you personally think many are, then your whole lecture after that is pointless
 
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NashVol11 said:
It didn't matter much to most people then, absolutely. Obama wasn't going to change that. Should he have tried? Maybe, but this is happening because of Charlottesville, not because of Trump. It's not that violent now anyway, most cities and campuses are just removing them overnight
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Things only get removed in the dark of the night by folks afraid to do it in the light of the day. Why would they be afraid? Perhaps, they know violence would ensue.
 
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ESPN wouldn't even sketch the Seminole in their comic covers in fear of backlash from Native American community. See for yourself:
 

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SamRebel35 said:
Can't believe freak hasn't been banned me for my account name.
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