The 111th United States Open

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GAVol said:
People need to really calm down with this coronation of McIlroy.
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The coronation is over the top, but this weekend show something important--if Rory is playing his best, he is better than the rest of the guys out there.
 
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Colin Cowherd hasn't bought in. Thats the first ESPN honk I've heard thus far going that direction.
 
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#228
GAVol said:
People need to really calm down with this coronation of McIlroy.
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doesn't have the short game of Woods. Has a beautiful swing, but also has that little dip on the downswing, which requires a little pop up for impact. That will breed some issues over time.

I will give him that when he gets to go full bore, his swing is better than everyone else's.
 
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McIlroy’s record-setting win yesterday at Congressional Country Club in Bethesda, Maryland, was seen on Comcast Corp. (CMCSA)’s NBC in an average of 5.1 percent of households in the top 56 U.S. television markets, NBC Universal spokesman Adam Freifeld said in a telephone interview.
That’s 26 percent lower than last year’s final-round rating of 6.9, when Graeme McDowell won the title at Pebble Beach Golf Links in California in a final round that concluded at 9:15 p.m. on the East Coast, compared with a 7:45 conclusion for McIlroy’s victory.
Tiger Woods tied for fourth at Pebble Beach, three strokes back. He didn’t play this year due to injury.
In 2009, when Lucas Glover won the tournament at Bethpage State Park in New York, the television rating also was a 5.1 on Sunday. That tournament concluded on Monday due to weather delays.
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With last year ending in primetime, it's actually kind of a wash with a similar time framed 2009
 
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#232
He deserves a lot of the praise he's getting for this tournament. I would take it easy with calling him the next tiger.

But I don't think his performance was as special as Tiger in 2000. Since you play a different course every year, the scoring figures aren't fair to compare. What matters is how you perform vs. the Field. Tiger's margin of victory that year was more impressive.
 
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golfballs03 said:
He deserves a lot of the praise he's getting for this tournament. I would take it easy with calling him the next tiger.

But I don't think his performance was as special as Tiger in 2000. Since you play a different course every year, the scoring figures aren't fair to compare. What matters is how you perform vs. the Field. Tiger's margin of victory that year was more impressive.
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If I remember correctly he was the only player under par. Amazing.
 
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My money is on golf not having another dominant guy like Tiger for a couple decades. There may be some flash in the pan guys. But it'll be a while, if ever, that'll have the run Tiger did.
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NYYVol said:
My money is on golf not having another dominant guy like Tiger for a couple decades. There may be some flash in the pan guys. But it'll be a while, if ever, that'll have the run Tiger did.
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I think that's a pretty safe bet. Especially with how the pga has been w/o him now. Some guys might get hot and win some tournaments, but nobody will dominate over a long stretch like tiger
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GBO18 said:
If I remember correctly he was the only player under par. Amazing.
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Well, it's an unfair comparison: the 2000 U.S. Open had one of the top three players of all time at the absolute peak of his powers. He was simply that much better than his competition at the time. Finished 12 under, runner-up was Ernie Els, no slouch, at 3 over. Rory put on quite a show, but comparing it to Tiger in 2000 is apples and oranges. By 2000, Tiger had already won 2 majors and a whole bunch of other tournaments. Rory is just getting started. For what it's worth, Brandel Chamblee puts the over/under on Rory's career majors at 8, which seems a bit high to me.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Why? He's strong, but why the next horse?
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His only drawback to the American public is that he's not American. Nonetheless, he's a great golfer. On the Sunday of the last 2 Majors he's shot 4-under both times. He has that clutch gene that's necessary. Oh, and not only has he placed 2nd in both, but he's the only person to be within 8 shots of the leader.

Other than that, it's just a hunch. But I think it's a fairly safe hunch. He seems likable, has a good-looking swing, and showed that he can handle Sunday pressure
 
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crusse10 said:
His only drawback to the American public is that he's not American. Nonetheless, he's a great golfer. On the Sunday of the last 2 Majors he's shot 4-under both times. He has that clutch gene that's necessary. Oh, and not only has he placed 2nd in both, but he's the only person to be within 8 shots of the leader.

Other than that, it's just a hunch. But I think it's a fairly safe hunch. He seems likable, has a good-looking swing, and showed that he can handle Sunday pressure
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Handling Sunday pressure is really about doing it when you have a legit shot at it. He had no prayer yesterday and was playing for cash. IIRC, his resume boasts a lone Byron Nelson title. That's a long way from a major powerhouse.
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NYYVol said:
My money is on golf not having another dominant guy like Tiger for a couple decades. There may be some flash in the pan guys. But it'll be a while, if ever, that'll have the run Tiger did.
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Probably a safe prediction. Before Tiger you have to go back 15 years to the heyday of Tom Watson to find anything remotely like Tiger's extended run. And Watson only won about half as much as Tiger has.
 
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GAVol said:
Probably a safe prediction. Before Tiger you have to go back 15 years to the heyday of Tom Watson to find anything remotely like Tiger's extended run. And Watson only won about half as much as Tiger has.
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But before TW, the dominator was more the rule than parity.
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DowntownVol said:
For what it's worth, Brandel Chamblee puts the over/under on Rory's career majors at 8, which seems a bit high to me.
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When you consider that the only guys with more than 8 majors are Nicklaus, Woods, Player, Hagen and Hogan, I'd say it's way too optimistic. We're talking about a list of players that does NOT include Snead, Nelson, Palmer and a lot of other all time greats.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Handling Sunday pressure is really about doing it when you have a legit shot at it. He had no prayer yesterday and was playing for cash. IIRC, his resume boasts a lone Byron Nelson title. That's a long way from a major powerhouse.
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Correct. He's competed once in each of the 4 Major tournaments. He's finished in the Top 10 in the last 3, including 2nd in both this year. Only 1 other person has been in the Top 10 in 2 of the last 3. At the PGA he finished 2-over on Sunday. From his 2nd major to his 3rd he had a 6-swing differential on Sunday.

I just flat out think he'll be the best for the near future.
 
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crusse10 said:
Correct. He's competed once in each of the 4 Major tournaments. He's finished in the Top 10 in the last 3, including 2nd in the both this year. Only 1 other person has been in the Top 10 in 2 of the last 3. At the PGA he finished 2-over on Sunday. From his 2nd major to his 3rd he had a 6-swing differential.

I just flat out think he'll be the best for the near future.
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Just don't like predictions like that for a guy carrying a putter that could be called a gizmo. It's not everything, but there is something there.
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BigPapaVol said:
Just don't like predictions like that for a guy carrying a putter that could be called a gizmo. It's not everything, but there is something there.
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Don't get me wrong, bold predictions are just that, bold. However, if I have to decide who the next great golfer will be, I'll take the guy who's finished in the Top 10 in 75% of the Major tournament events in which he's competed and 2nd in 50%
 
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#249
crusse10 said:
Don't get me wrong, bold predictions are just that, bold. However, if I have to decide who the next great golfer will be, I'll take the guy who's finished in the Top 10 in 75% of the Major tournament events in which he's competed and 2nd in 50%
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Meh, hot runs work for many. Guy is talented and creates some serious arm speed, but look for the otherworldly strikers or short games for your next horse. Rory fits that mold.
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#250
BigPapaVol said:
Just don't like predictions like that for a guy carrying a putter that could be called a gizmo. It's not everything, but there is something there.
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I need to see him do it again before I'm a believer. Right now I'm more apt to compare him to Lucas Glover than I am Tiger Woods.
 
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