The Aftermath: What are the possibilities?

[Rasputin_Vol]

I can name the good and the bad possibilities

Good
* Working and schooling from home will pick up momentum
* With less need for rush hour commuting, less need for some highway expansion projects
* Jobs labeled "non-essential" during the outbreak will get re-examined (public sector and private sector)
* Tougher border laws


Bad
* Forced vaccinations
* Stronger Federal government
* Cellphone surveillance on normal people spikes
* Collapse of commercial real estate with the possible increase in workers from home

 

[VolStrom]

Good
* Less BMW drivers on the road

Bad
* 3/4 of the country can't work from home because they work with their hands or they don't have internet.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I can name the good and the bad possibilities

Good
* Working and schooling from home will pick up momentum
* With less need for rush hour commuting, less need for some highway expansion projects
* Jobs labeled "non-essential" during the outbreak will get re-examined (public sector and private sector)
* Tougher border laws


Bad
* Forced vaccinations
* Stronger Federal government
* Cellphone surveillance on normal people spikes
* Collapse of commercial real estate with the possible increase in workers from home

I doubt non-essential government jobs will be affected.

If it weren't clear that we live in a police state before, it should be abundantly clear now. And there is no walking it back now.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Good
* Less BMW drivers on the road

Bad
* 3/4 of the country can't work from home because they work with their hands or they don't have internet.

Bad
* Universal Basic Income

 

[NorthDallas40]

Good:
Me deciding F the world I’m gonna retire early.

Bad:
Me changing my mind on that decision

 

[NEO]

Commercial real estate is so insanely expensive it's not even funny.

You could find 16 per sq for a basic class A back in 2005.

Now class A is 22 to 24 in a suburban area and up to 40 in a metro area and mainly triple net.

Something has to budge and I do see a major influx of work from home happening after this.

 

[Matt2496]

Good:

The country will finally realize why we can't be so heavily reliant on China for our goods and drugs.

Bad:

The creation of a police/surveillance state.

 

[volfanhill]

Good:

The country will finally realize why we can't be so heavily reliant on China for our goods and drugs.

Bad:

The creation of a police/surveillance state.

The police/surveillance state ship set sail long ago

 

[VolStrom]

Good:
Me deciding F the world I’m gonna retire early.

Bad:
Me changing my mind on that decision

Come on in the water's fine.

 

[Pacer92]

Good:
The lines at Home Depot will get shorter..

Bad:
Vaccinations/cashless society/chipping..

 

[happy-go_vol]

I doubt non-essential government jobs will be affected.

If it weren't clear that we live in a police state before, it should be abundantly clear now. And there is no walking it back now.

Yeah, this virus was a godsend for the marxist party. They will take advantage of this to the fullest extent.

 

[happy-go_vol]

Good:

The country will finally realize why we can't be so heavily reliant on China for our goods and drugs.

Bad:

The creation of a police/surveillance state.

Sadly, we'll still rely on China. It will actually get worse.

 

[LouderVol]

Sadly, we'll still rely on China. It will actually get worse.

Sadly yes. Because of the politics in this nation they will just continue to double down on it instead of fixing the problem.

It doesnt help them to have employed people at home. It's not easy to get someone to do what you want if they can tell you to shove it. But if you make them dependent on you? You've got them.

 

[happy-go_vol]

Sadly yes. Because of the politics in this nation they will just continue to double down on it instead of fixing the problem.

It doesnt help them to have employed people at home. It's not easy to get someone to do what you want if they can tell you to shove it. But if you make them dependent on you? You've got them.

The more we rely on china, the larger the gap grows between the fed gov and us

 

[allvol123]

Social Distancing Administration will be formed. People will continue to foolishly believe in large government and actually desire it to control their lives more.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Sadly yes. Because of the politics in this nation they will just continue to double down on it instead of fixing the problem.

It doesnt help them to have employed people at home. It's not easy to get someone to do what you want if they can tell you to shove it. But if you make them dependent on you? You've got them.

No, it's because people are addicted to cheap crap. If they build that iPhone 20 in Vietnam it will cost $2000. OF course Mr Trump has been leading the charge against the Chinese since taking office, but we all know how much help he has gotten in that regard from the Democratic Socialists.

 

[vols40]

Commercial real estate is so insanely expensive it's not even funny.

You could find 16 per sq for a basic class A back in 2005.

Now class A is 22 to 24 in a suburban area and up to 40 in a metro area and mainly triple net.

Something has to budge and I do see a major influx of work from home happening after this.

And if that's the case a reduction in the price for commercial real estate. The beauty of capitalism

 

[utvolpj]

Yeah, this virus was a godsend for the marxist party. They will take advantage of this to the fullest extent.

just like yours did after 911? Don't act like your party isn't chomping at the bit to add more layers of govt with this. They just created a half trillion dollar slush fund for corps and fought any oversight

 

[Volatility]

I would love to see manufacturing , but I have better odds of winning the lottery. I don’t think anything will change unfortunately, we’ll forget about this once sports come back.

 

[LouderVol]

No, it's because people are addicted to cheap crap. If they build that iPhone 20 in Vietnam it will cost $2000. OF course Mr Trump has been leading the charge against the Chinese since taking office, but we all know how much help he has gotten in that regard from the Democratic Socialists.

Price control is another part of socialism. They will argue how it was them who kept costs down while ignoring all their hyprocies in the matter.

Living wages, environmental hypocrisy, workers rights.

 

[red butler]

I expect some type of monetary system reset due to all the stresses created by the quarantine. The current system has been showing signs of cracking for decades now. I'm sure it's a false hope, but I'm cautiously optimistic that TPTB will adopt something like the Chicago Plan that had been endorsed by several of the best economists in history. The plan is similar to pre-WWI Germany's monetary system. The colonies also used a similar system prior to the revolution.

IMF - The Chicago Plan revisited

Summary of the plan:
- Treasury creates all currency debt free, separating the the monetary and credit functions of the banking system
- Banks are required to maintain 100% reserves for the loans they issue

Pros:
- Much better control of business cycle fluctuations
- Complete elimination of bank runs
- Dramatic reduction of private debt as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation.
- Steady state inflation can drop to zero without posing problems for the conduct of monetary policy
- Banks would once again have to compete for deposits. Increasing interest earned on savings

 

[LouderVol]

I expect some type of monetary system reset due to all the stresses created by the quarantine. The current system has been showing signs of cracking for decades now. I'm sure it's a false hope, but I'm cautiously optimistic that TPTB will adopt something like the Chicago Plan that had been endorsed by several of the best economists in history. The plan is similar to pre-WWI Germany's monetary system. The colonies also used a similar system prior to the revolution.

IMF - The Chicago Plan revisited

Summary of the plan:
- Treasury creates all currency debt free, separating the the monetary and credit functions of the banking system
- Banks are required to maintain 100% reserves for the loans they issue

Pros:
- Much better control of business cycle fluctuations
- Complete elimination of bank runs
- Dramatic reduction of private debt as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation.
- Steady state inflation can drop to zero without posing problems for the conduct of monetary policy
- Banks would once again have to compete for deposits. Increasing interest earned on savings

The last is why it wont happen.

 

[red butler]

The last is why it wont happen.

The banks would certainly fight it, but I think the main reason the banks will fight it is this comment from the study:

"The control of credit growth would become much more straightforward because banks would no longer be able, as they are today, to generate their own funding, deposits, in the act of lending, an extraordinary privilege that is not enjoyed by any other type of business."

 

[happy-go_vol]

just like yours did after 911? Don't act like your party isn't chomping at the bit to add more layers of govt with this. They just created a half trillion dollar slush fund for corps and fought any oversight

Im not argung with that, the gop establishment is bad at spending too, but the grass roots doesn't want marxism. unlike you guys, there are many true Americans that are worried about this. I knew homeland security would be abused, especially when a pro-socialist dem becomes elected.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Good: The economy will eventual reopen and every business that remains will have incredible deals.


Bad: Many will not have money to spend and the ones that do may be hesitant to spend even a dime.