The Association Football Thread

#4,581
#4,581
My bro-in-law will be at the Arsenal game tomorrow morning, and I'll be hosting his wife and 2 kids here in AZ while he's gone....que bastardo!
 
#4,586
#4,586
I know that Volball knows this, but I HATE barcelona.

However, he is right about Ibra. A complete striker must have incredible movement and he doesnt. Look up his greatest goals ever scored, and 9 out of 10 will be from a cross or corner. I think he is unbelievably talented at scoring, but if you can't score loads of goals while playing for Barca you are not an all around forward.

His attitude kills him because the team has to be all about him or he doesn't put forth the effort. He would be amazing at Arsenal. (zing, :sad:)
 
#4,587
#4,587
TylerD said:
Where's Milo???



5-2 to THE ARSENAL!
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The result is all that matters in the end but without the red I don't think there's anyway that game is close to the same outcome. For the first 20 minutes or so the Gunners were completely on their heels.
 
#4,589
#4,589
NochNoch said:
The result is all that matters in the end but without the red I don't think there's anyway that game is close to the same outcome. For the first 20 minutes or so the Gunners were completely on their heels.
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The Adebayor sending off wasn't even close to questionable, he deserved every bit of it. That ought to reflect on the result. If it wound up a bit tighter, maybe, but four goals and an extra to add insult to injury says it probably wouldn't have mattered one way or the other.
 
#4,590
#4,590
milohimself said:
The Adebayor sending off wasn't even close to questionable, he deserved every bit of it. That ought to reflect on the result. If it wound up a bit tighter, maybe, but four goals and an extra to add insult to injury says it probably wouldn't have mattered one way or the other.
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I think you're right.. The only thing that changed in your team was losing 1 striker; so the defense didn't have to change up. I just don't think AVB is the right guy. His teams always let goals flow through.
 
#4,591
#4,591
TylerD said:
I think you're right.. The only thing that changed in your team was losing 1 striker; so the defense didn't have to change up. I just don't think AVB is the right guy. His teams always let goals flow through.
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I don't know what to make of his time so far at Spurs. Last year he got too caught up in trying to phase out the old guard at Chelsea and get the new guys on the pitch, but in the end just ended up putting a second rate squad out there a lot. This year he's playing the best players, they just aren't getting the results.

As a side note, do any of you guys think West Brom has any real staying power this year? I know they're unlikely to qualify for CL, but even getting into Europa League would be a monumental achievement for that club. Regardless, being 12 games in and still within 5 points of the top of the table is pretty unbelievable for a club like that.
 
#4,592
#4,592
bleedorange0037 said:
I don't know what to make of his time so far at Spurs. Last year he got too caught up in trying to phase out the old guard at Chelsea and get the new guys on the pitch, but in the end just ended up putting a second rate squad out there a lot. This year he's playing the best players, they just aren't getting the results.

As a side note, do any of you guys think West Brom has any real staying power this year? I know they're unlikely to qualify for CL, but even getting into Europa League would be a monumental achievement for that club. Regardless, being 12 games in and still within 5 points of the top of the table is pretty unbelievable for a club like that.
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His problem is that he made bad choices.. Adebayor was a terrible purchase, and he didn't do enough to replace Modric. Dempsey isn't good enough to make a team top 4 quality, Dembele isn't even close, and Gylfi is rotting away. Maybe things will change though.

Last year Newcastle were in the top 3 until Christmas and had a dramatic fallout shortly after that. I expect the same thing or worse from West Brom. They have done well, but will drop major points soon. Same thing with Everton but probably not as bad. Everton will finish 7th or 8th and West Brom will finish 10th.
 
#4,593
#4,593
The bottom line is that the team is still poorly constructed for AVB's system, particularly on the back line. Modrič wanted the glory transfer, but there really wasn't anybody out there to replace him. Maybe João Moutinho but I doubt it and that got botched.

I will give Dembélé more credit than that, not that he's elite but he's very, very good and Spurs' record with him as a starter reflects that.

It all comes down to AVB anyhow. The EPL is down enough this year that a top four should be feasible for this club with a silly season signing but poor personnel decisions are going to cost this team. AVB is trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
 
#4,594
#4,594
TylerD said:
His problem is that he made bad choices.. Adebayor was a terrible purchase, and he didn't do enough to replace Modric. Dempsey isn't good enough to make a team top 4 quality, Dembele isn't even close, and Gylfi is rotting away. Maybe things will change though.

Last year Newcastle were in the top 3 until Christmas and had a dramatic fallout shortly after that. I expect the same thing or worse from West Brom. They have done well, but will drop major points soon. Same thing with Everton but probably not as bad. Everton will finish 7th or 8th and West Brom will finish 10th.
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Newcastle finished 5th last year, and had a real shot at finishing top 4 with two or three games to go. They still would have missed out on CL because of Chelsea taking the final spot by winning the whole tournament. West Brom fans would probably be ecstatic with that sort of result this season. I just don't see any way they finish in a Europa League spot though. Too many teams with too many good players and too much money to spend in the upcoming transfer window. Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Liverpool and Newcastle are all currently trailing them. There's no chance they hold on through May IMO.
 
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#4,596
milohimself said:
I don't see either of the Merseyside clubs finishing that high.
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The middle of the table is so cluttered right now that if Liverpool could get any sustained form going they could easily work their way into the top 6-10 spots. Will they? Who knows. They've been all over the place the past few years.
 
#4,597
#4,597
They just haven't spent the money to compete. The middle table is cluttered, but it's where Liverpool is and where they will finish.
 
#4,599
#4,599
milohimself said:
They just haven't spent the money to compete. The middle table is cluttered, but it's where Liverpool is and where they will finish.
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What is sad is that they have spent WAYYYYYYY more than Arsenal and are nowhere close to being as talented. There problem is they go out and pay close to 20m on Downing and Henderson each, and then Arsenal pay less than that a piece for Podolski, Giroud, Cazorla, Chamberlain, Arteta, etc. Most of the Liverpool transfers lately have amounted to nothing and Arsenal have never payed as much as they do for players.

It is just truly amazing how bad Liverpool have been in the transfer market lately. Other than Suarez they have made the worst decisions.. I hope for their sake Joe Allen reaches his potential.
 
#4,600
#4,600
bleedorange0037 said:
Newcastle finished 5th last year, and had a real shot at finishing top 4 with two or three games to go. They still would have missed out on CL because of Chelsea taking the final spot by winning the whole tournament. West Brom fans would probably be ecstatic with that sort of result this season. I just don't see any way they finish in a Europa League spot though. Too many teams with too many good players and too much money to spend in the upcoming transfer window. Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Liverpool and Newcastle are all currently trailing them. There's no chance they hold on through May IMO.
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Well, to be fair Chelsea had the AVB virus last year or they wouldn't have. However, what I posted and meant was that they collapsed after Christmas, but I was wrong.. It was just before Christmas.

They got 4 points out of 24 from late November through January.

That is what I expect from West Brom.
 
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