The Bash Juan Montoya Thread!!!

#51
#51
TennesseeFan07 said:
Did you not watch those clips, but if you want evidence please hole temporarily as I give a race by race recap of every race JPM's run in this year.
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Some of those clips involved arguing with a crew chief and a cameraman apparently. I'd hardly count those as accidents caused on the track.

You've been spotted three accidents he's caused, that leaves almost 25 other races to choose from.
 
#52
#52
Yeah really, just look at earlier this year. David Ragan wrecked every week, but now that he's starting to get some experience under his belt, he's starting to run much more smoother, Montoya on the other hand, continues to make the same mistakes.
 
#54
#54
TennesseeFan07 said:
Yeah really, just look at earlier this year. David Ragan wrecked every week, but now that he's starting to get some experience under his belt, he's starting to run much more smoother, Montoya on the other hand, continues to make the same mistakes.
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We'll start with Chicago. Go. Since that one won't take long, you can follow with New Hampshire, Sears Point, Michigan, Pocono, Charlotte, Dover, Richmond, Darlington, Talladega, Phoenix, Bristol, Atlanta, Las Vegas, California, and Daytona.
 
#55
#55
Also, I don't remember Reed Sorenson, Martin Truex, Clint Bowyer, David Stremme, JJ Yeley, or Denny Hamlin(technically not a rookie, but first full season) ever causing or being in as many wrecks.
 
#56
#56
Tidwell, you must not watch the busch series, because he's like Steven Wallace almost. He wrecks every week.
 
#61
#61
Sabanocchio said:
You still didn't address my point about when to make those moves. JPM's reputation is warranted.
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Because I didn't see a problem with the move he made. He went to pass Pruett. Pruett's spotter should've got word to him quicker, I guess.

TennesseeFan07 said:
Here you go

NASCAR NEXTEL Cup: The Black Flag Blog: Juan Pablo Montoya's(aka "Crash") Running List of "Incidents"
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:eek:lol:

That lists the multiple times that Newman has wrecked him as major incidents! :eek:lol:

I still only see the 3 incidents with other drivers that we've discussed ad nauseam.
 
#63
#63
tidwell said:
Because I didn't see a problem with the move he made. He went to pass Pruett. Pruett's spotter should've got word to him quicker, I guess.


:eek:lol:

That lists the multiple times that Newman has wrecked him as major incidents! :eek:lol:
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But he failed to mention some of the busch races montoya's been in.
 
#65
#65
Probably because there weren't any to mention.

Why would he list the Mexico Busch race if he wasn't listing Busch races?
 
#66
#66
tidwell said:
Because I didn't see a problem with the move he made. He went to pass Pruett. Pruett's spotter should've got word to him quicker, I guess.
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That's just ridiculous. There's no way at that point, as quickly as Montoya stuck his nose in there, that his spotter could have let him know and JPM should have known that.
 
#67
#67
Sabanocchio said:
That's just ridiculous. There's no way at that point, as quickly as Montoya stuck his nose in there, that his spotter could have let him know and JPM should have known that.
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So we agree that Pruett blocked him, but it was only because he didn't know he was there?
 
#68
#68
tidwell said:
Probably because there weren't any to mention.

Why would he list the Mexico Busch race if he wasn't listing Busch races?
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Because the Mexico race was a big deal. I know he wrecked someone else at Dover because I was watching the video of it earlier. He also left the Harvick Montoya wreck absent. And earlier in a busch race at New Hampshire and I believe Richmond Montoya caused wrecks.
 
#69
#69
No, we discussed that, bro. He was entering a friggin' turn. Montoya stuck his nose under him. HE DID NOT MOVE TO BLOCK. Watch the video. He didn't have time to know he was there soon enough to block him.
 
#71
#71
Sabanocchio said:
No, we discussed that, bro. He was entering a friggin' turn. Montoya stuck his nose under him. HE DID NOT MOVE TO BLOCK. Watch the video. He didn't have time to know he was there soon enough to block him.
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AMEN, discussing about Mexico is over. This explains it all.
 
#72
#72
TennesseeFan07 said:
Because the Mexico race was a big deal. I know he wrecked someone else at Dover because I was watching the video of it earlier. He also left the Harvick Montoya wreck absent. And earlier in a busch race at New Hampshire and I believe Richmond Montoya caused wrecks.
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Because the Daytona race was after June 18th. That was due to ill-handling where the car went up the track. It happened several times during the race.

Montoya got wrecked at New Hampshire by Bowyer in the Busch race while he was running 5th and by Newman (again) in the Cup race at Richmond.
 
#73
#73
Sabanocchio said:
No, we discussed that, bro. He was entering a friggin' turn. Montoya stuck his nose under him. HE DID NOT MOVE TO BLOCK. Watch the video. He didn't have time to know he was there soon enough to block him.
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If Pruett didn't know he was there despite Montoya clearing being under him, then it's just a racing deal where two cars were going for the same space. Why blame it on Montoya then?
 
#75
#75
tidwell said:
Because the Daytona race was after June 18th. That was due to ill-handling where the car went up the track. It happened several times during the race.

Montoya got wrecked at New Hampshire by Bowyer in the Busch race while he was running 5th and by Newman (again) in the Cup race at Richmond.
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Does he not get it. Even I understand that handling goes away in the cars during the July race. He should have known he couldnt stay in the throttle. Montoys is really endangering lives out there.
 
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