The Bash Juan Montoya Thread!!!

your references to "true nascar fans" for one, then "good ol' boys", then "messing with the wrong driver".

you clearly don't like JPM and I think there's more to it than thinking you can drive better than he can. I wonder if you'd be so pathological in your hatred if he were black or a woman. You've been proven wrong countless times in this thread. I'm probably wrong about you as well since you're probably a good kid, just misguided.
 
We don't give awards for how much you advance in the opening 10 laps.There's still alot of time for him to mess up.
 
tidwell has proven you wrong numerous times. you've claimed that all the "real" nascar fans hate him, you've claimed that all the other drivers hate him, you've claimed that he's caused wrecks in every race he's ever been in, and you've claimed he's never won a Nextel cup race because you don't like road courses.

that's 0-4 right there
 
I didn't say he didn't win a race, I just said it's not surprising that he won since he's raced on them his whole life. And the other 3 are opinions so you can't factually prove me wrong. And I never said he's wrecked in every race. Keep working though.
 
nah, I'm done here. matching wits with a 16 year old boy I can get at home. I'll come back when you're legally able to vote, smoke and drink. Maybe by then you'll be mature enough to have your own opinions, not just parroting your old man's.
 
And the other 3 are opinions so you can't factually prove me wrong.

Actually making claims that most fans and drivers hate him are fact-based statements not opinions. If you say you hate him - that is an opinion. If you say others hate him, that is a fact-based claim that could presumably be proven or disproven. So far, you've offered no compelling evidence to support the claim.
 
isn't it obvious, according to him, you're not a real nascar fan since you aren't a white, southern male.

So I've just been wasting my time and money these last 7 years, huh? :crazy:

Crushing, to say the least. :birgits_giggle:
 
It looks like all of the Montoya lovers have gathered up on me. Now I know what Teddyhead feels like when people call him Seth.
 
isn't it obvious, according to him, you're not a real nascar fan since you aren't a white, southern male.

Can you please point out my direct quote where I say or imply anything about this. Also, it's obvious you don't get on here often or you would know how much I like Marcos Ambrose. So much for that theory. What other allegations will you bring up next?
 
I'm NOT a Montoya lover.... I like one driver, and one driver only.. and that's Dale Jr. I'm absolutely indifferent to Montoya, he doesn't affect me one way or the other.
 
Unfortunately, many people on here are. They fail to face the truth and try to get around the subject by questioning my knowledge. But the fact is that Juan wrecks alot and is arrogant and doesn't learn from his mistakes.
 
here are a few of your more notable posts

Yeah, international fans like him, but us real Nascar fans hate him, his attitude and everything about him. I may gain some respect once he wins a race.

define "real Nascar fan"

I would love for JPM to have raced back when it was actually racing. He would have gotten beat up every week. No driver from back in the good ole days would have put up with him. Like i say, I can't wait till he messes with the wrong person.

define "good ole days"

Everyone does agree with me about Montoya. At least fans who actually watch racing. I mean to show what an idiot Montoya is he started a 10 car wreck at the All Star race and wouldn't take blame except for wrecking Gilliand. I can't wait to he messes with the wrong person and they stop tolerating his crap. Then we would have to listen to his whining all of the time.

who would the "wrong person" be?

No, the actual fact that me and 90% of fans know more about aerodynamics is laughable. He just doesn't use his brain. Even Kyle Busch isn't as stupid as Montoya.

what of the other 10% of fans?


actually, this proved nothing.
 
Unfortunately, many people on here are. They fail to face the truth and try to get around the subject by questioning my knowledge. But the fact is that Juan wrecks alot and is arrogant and doesn't learn from his mistakes.

This is not me defending Montoya, this is just how I look at it and how I would look at it with any driver. I honestly don't see him causing an abnormal amount of wrecks... but then, I don't keep track and have a fairly short-term memory when it comes to every other driver except Junior, because I just don't care. lol

Another thing, Jeff Gordon wrecked a lot when he first came into NASCAR... DW said that he would never make it. We all know how that turned out.
 

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