The Bash Juan Montoya Thread!!!

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#153
But he still was involved even if it wasn't his fault. Im just glad he's done with the busch series. Now if Steven Wallace would just quit the Busch series would be a respectable series.
 
#154
#154
TennesseeFan07 said:
But he still was involved even if it wasn't his fault. Im just glad he's done with the busch series. Now if Steven Wallace would just quit the Busch series would be a respectable series.
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Jeff Burton was involved in accidents, Denny Hamlin was, etc., etc. What's the point? He certainly has the talent to be there.
 
#155
#155
Do you see Burton going out every week and wrecking or being involved in controversary? No. JPM makes the same mistakes every week and is the most overated driver in Nascar.
 
#157
#157
TennesseeFan07 said:
Do you see Burton going out every week and wrecking or being involved in controversary? No. JPM makes the same mistakes every week and is the most overated driver in Nascar.
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What mistakes did he make yesterday? He got sandwiched on one restart while he was holding his line then he got rammed from behind when the field checked up on another restart?
 
#158
#158
He probably should have backed out. I mean it wasn't just his fault but to not blame him for it would be silly. The stupidest thing ever was when the announcers kept talking about him the whole race when he was running 10th-15th 40+ seconds back.
 
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#159
volinbham said:
What mistakes did he make yesterday? He got sandwiched on one restart while he was holding his line then he got rammed from behind when the field checked up on another restart?
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By TennesseeFan07's pathetic reasoning, guys running in 20th at Talladega who get caught up in the big wreck started by guys running in the top 5 are terrible drivers and should quit racing because they were involved in the accident.

But, at least another person else realizes it now. Look for him to still claim that he's right and everyone agrees with him about Montoya.
 
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tidwell said:
He certainly could... and will continue to do so. TennesseeFan07 certainly isn't one to let facts get in the way of his bias and lunacy.
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Bias?:eek:lol: You're the one that fails to ever put blame on Montoya. Even when he does the stupidest things you blame it on him being a rookie. A guess Juan gets a pass since he was a successful open wheel car. Oh wait, why isn't he in F1 anymore? Because they all hate him do to his stupidity in a race car.
 
#161
#161
TennesseeFan07 said:
He probably should have backed out. I mean it wasn't just his fault but to not blame him for it would be silly. The stupidest thing ever was when the announcers kept talking about him the whole race when he was running 10th-15th 40+ seconds back.
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You've got to be kidding me - he did nothing wrong in either case. If it were any other driver I wonder if you'd be jumping their case.

He took his rightful line in Turn 1 and guy's trying to pass him both hit him. On the other restart, he got on the brakes fast enough to barely make contact with the guy in front of him but the guy behind him wasn't as quick and rammed the crap out of him. Nothing he could do about that. If he backed out in Turn 1, someone would have punted him.

I understand you don't like him but you are just looking for reasons to trash him.
 
#162
#162
tidwell said:
By TennesseeFan07's pathetic reasoning, guys running in 20th at Talladega who get caught up in the big wreck started by guys running in the top 5 are terrible drivers and should quit racing because they were involved in the accident.

But, at least another person else realizes it now. Look for him to still claim that he's right and everyone agrees with him about Montoya.
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Everyone does agree with me about Montoya. At least fans who actually watch racing. I mean to show what an idiot Montoya is he started a 10 car wreck at the All Star race and wouldn't take blame except for wrecking Gilliand. I can't wait to he messes with the wrong person and they stop tolerating his crap. Then we would have to listen to his whining all of the time.
 
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volinbham said:
You've got to be kidding me - he did nothing wrong in either case. If it were any other driver I wonder if you'd be jumping their case.

He took his rightful line in Turn 1 and guy's trying to pass him both hit him. On the other restart, he got on the brakes fast enough to barely make contact with the guy in front of him but the guy behind him wasn't as quick and rammed the crap out of him. Nothing he could do about that. If he backed out in Turn 1, someone would have punted him.

I understand you don't like him but you are just looking for reasons to trash him.
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People like Tidwell look for reasons to praise him every second. I mean in about 10 races this year he's wrecked someone. Including Busch. Tidwell fails to believe this even though I have video of every incident. If anyone is bias on here it's him. Everyone gets caught up in a wreck now and then, but JPM causes more than anyone else in Nascar.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
People like Tidwell look for reasons to praise him every second. I mean in about 10 races this year he's wrecked someone. Including Busch. Tidwell fails to believe this even though I have video of every incident. If anyone is bias on here it's him. Everyone gets caught up in a wreck now and then, but JPM causes more than anyone else in Nascar.
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I'm not commenting on Tidwell. I don't really like or dislike JPM but to blame him for anything yesterday is clearly biased against him. It calls into question your credibility of evaluating the cause of wrecks. When you say he's caused more wrecks than anyone else in NASCAR do you count yesterday's incidents?
 
#165
#165
volinbham said:
I'm not commenting on Tidwell. I don't really like or dislike JPM but to blame him for anything yesterday is clearly biased against him. It calls into question your credibility of evaluating the cause of wrecks. When you say he's caused more wrecks than anyone else in NASCAR do you count yesterday's incidents?
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No I count wrecks like the ones he started in the All Star race, the busch race at Dover, the busch race at Phoenix, the cup race at Martinsville, the race he wrecked stewart at Texas, when he washed up into Harvick at Daytona, etc. I mean, I'm 16 and I know more about the characteristics and air and other features than he does apperantly. Anyone who watches or races Nascar knows that in the July Daytona race the track is very slippery and that at the end of a green run you're going to be sliding around. It's like he doesn't know anything about the way the cars work. Like he doesn't know if you get right up behind someone on their spoiler you'll wreck someone. Brad Coleman, Aric Almirola, Stephen Leicht all have better car control than JPM and they race part time in the busch series. He really doesn't deserve his ride because he's accomplished nothing in Nascar coming into this year. He's not a team player based on him yelling at his own crew chief during a race and him wrecking his own teammate at the end of a race. He just doesn't use his brain. Also, he's the most arrogant driver in Nascar history. He thinks people are just supposed to move over when he gets behind them. He's earned no respect from hardly any of the drivers out there because the spotters tell there drivers to watch out when he gets around them. It just shows that he's not readyt for Nextel Cup. He should have done a year of Arca, a year of Busch and then started Nextel Cup.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
No I count wrecks like the ones he started in the All Star race, the busch race at Dover, the busch race at Phoenix, the cup race at Martinsville, the race he wrecked stewart at Texas, when he washed up into Harvick at Daytona, etc. I mean, I'm 16 and I know more about the characteristics and air and other features than he does apperantly. Anyone who watches or races Nascar knows that in the July Daytona race the track is very slippery and that at the end of a green run you're going to be sliding around. It's like he doesn't know anything about the way the cars work. Like he doesn't know if you get right up behind someone on their spoiler you'll wreck someone. Brad Coleman, Aric Almirola, Stephen Leicht all have better car control than JPM and they race part time in the busch series. He really doesn't deserve his ride because he's accomplished nothing in Nascar coming into this year. He's not a team player based on him yelling at his own crew chief during a race and him wrecking his own teammate at the end of a race. He just doesn't use his brain. Also, he's the most arrogant driver in Nascar history. He thinks people are just supposed to move over when he gets behind them. He's earned no respect from hardly any of the drivers out there because the spotters tell there drivers to watch out when he gets around them. It just shows that he's not readyt for Nextel Cup. He should have done a year of Arca, a year of Busch and then started Nextel Cup.
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Allll-righty then. :blink:
 
#172
#172
16 year olds are rarely right about anything. and being so biased against JPM in the ways that you are shows something more sinister at work as well. claiming you know more about aerodynamics on the race track than JPM is laughable.
 
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MG1968 said:
16 year olds are rarely right about anything. and being so biased against JPM in the ways that you are shows something more sinister at work as well. claiming you know more about aerodynamics on the race track than JPM is laughable.
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No, the actual fact that me and 90% of fans know more about aerodynamics is laughable. He just doesn't use his brain. Even Kyle Busch isn't as stupid as Montoya.
 
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