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YankeeVol said:
Bro used a suppressor

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Is it malfunctioning, or just a single action pistol? That would be kind of strange to use single-action if he's a professional. 100% a targeted attack, but look how slow he is with the operation of that gun. Very casual as well, too casual.
 
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05_never_again said:
Is it malfunctioning, or just a single action pistol? That would be kind of strange to use single-action if he's a professional. 100% a targeted attack, but look how slow he is with the operation of that gun. Very casual as well, too casual.
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Malfunctioning.

Obviously not too professional to test fire before attempting an assassination.

One person around (that we can see). Likely wouldn't draw much attention with the suppressor with the noise in NYC.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Malfunctioning.

Obviously not too professional to test fire before attempting an assassination.

One person around (that we can see). Likely wouldn't draw much attention with the suppressor with the noise in NYC.
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Insanely calm in the face of a malfunction tho
 
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YankeeVol said:
Malfunctioning.

Obviously not too professional to test fire before attempting an assassination.

One person around (that we can see). Likely wouldn't draw much attention with the suppressor with the noise in NYC.
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And if the threats he was receiving before the shooting came from the shooter himself (or people connected to him), that obviously isn't professional either.

It might just be a crazy guy who got denied coverage or hated the health insurance industry or something. Even so, he still knew exactly who that guy was and where/when exactly he was going to be. It wasn't like he was trying to kill a famous public figure, so I wonder what he connection was to know that information.
 
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05_never_again said:
And if the threats he was receiving before the shooting came from the shooter himself (or people connected to him), that obviously isn't professional either.

It might just be a crazy guy who got denied coverage or hated the health insurance industry or something. Even so, he still knew exactly who that guy was and where/when exactly he was going to be.
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I think it was a paid hit. Especially with how calm he is with the malfunctions and continuing to shoot to make sure the job was done.
 
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05_never_again said:
And if the threats he was receiving before the shooting came from the shooter himself (or people connected to him), that obviously isn't professional either.

It might just be a crazy guy who got denied coverage or hated the health insurance industry or something. Even so, he still knew exactly who that guy was and where/when exactly he was going to be. It wasn't like he was trying to kill a famous public figure, so I wonder what he connection was to know that information.
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I would actually contend he is a famous public figure

In that it would take me less than 5 seconds to find out who he is and I don’t have a bone to pick with the guy. Much less someone potentially obsessing over a denied claim/slow death of a loved one.
 
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TBrown said:
I would actually contend he is a famous public figure

In that it would take me less than 5 seconds to find out who he is and I don’t have a bone to pick with the guy. Much less someone potentially obsessing over a denied claim/slow death of a loved one.
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Being able to figure out who he is doesn't mean he's a public figure. You could quickly figure out who he was if you were given some kind of string to pull (e.g., you're sitting next to him in an airport lounge and see the UNH logo on his shirt, then you hear him introduce himself as "Brian" on a phone call). If you just saw him walking around somewhere, you'd have no idea who that guy was unless you personally knew him.

He certainly wasn't a public figure in the same way a famous person is, or even in the same way that an obscure professional athlete is.
 
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05_never_again said:
Being able to figure out who he is doesn't mean he's a public figure. You could quickly figure out who he was if you were given some kind of string to pull (e.g., you're sitting next to him in an airport lounge and see the UNH logo on his shirt, then you hear him introduce himself as "Brian" on a phone call). If you just saw him walking around somewhere, you'd have no idea who that guy was unless you personally knew him.

He certainly wasn't a public figure in the same way a famous person is, or even in the same way that an obscure professional athlete is.
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I wouldn’t need the logo on his shirt or a phone call.

You can google the “CEO of United Healthcare” and within seconds I could tell you what he looks like, where he lives, who is in his family, etc.
 
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TBrown said:
I wouldn’t need the logo on his shirt or a phone call.

You can google the “CEO of United Healthcare” and within seconds I could tell you what he looks like, where he lives, who is in his family, etc.
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...but you wouldn't know he was the CEO of the company if you just saw him going down the street. That's my point. You'd need some kind of string to pull to figure out who he was.

To me "public figure" means you see someone walking down the street and a decent chunk of the population knows immediately who they are without having to Google or search for anything.
 
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05_never_again said:
...but you wouldn't know he was the CEO of the company if you just saw him going down the street. That's my point. You'd need some kind of string to pull to figure out who he was.
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Ok.. we aren’t talking about the same thing ha

The assumption is that it is someone who was denied a health claim. You would know the insurance provider. You can easily google everything about this man. That makes him a public figure, IMO.

If your contention is that this is random (which I don’t think you’re saying) then yeah someone just walking down the street would have minimal reason to know him
 
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TBrown said:
Ok.. we aren’t talking about the same thing ha

The assumption is that it is someone who was denied a health claim. You would know the insurance provider. You can easily google everything about this man. That makes him a public figure, IMO.

If your contention is that this is random (which I don’t think you’re saying) then yeah someone just walking down the street would have minimal reason to know him
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No, it obviously wasn't a random shooting. The guy who shot him obviously knew who he was, but he knew who he was through some kind of connection or something that occurred that gave him reason to look into him. He was a hired hitman, himself or a loved one had a bad experience with UNH, etc.

Sure, he's public in the sense that if you wanted to figure out who he was, you could if you were given something to work off of (i.e., you think you got screwed over by UNH).
 
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