The cancel culture is getting out of control

[BowlBrother85]

Aren’t you the dictionary man?
redneck
noun
red·neck ˈred-ˌnek

1
sometimes disparaging : a white member of the Southern rural laboring class

2
often disparaging : a person whose behavior and opinions are similar to those

I'm tired of this stupid conversation... but the definitions you posted said "sometimes" and "often" disparaging; not always. Your 2nd definition also makes the point that I have - it is associated more with behavior and personal tastes than with a race.

 

[BowlBrother85]

He was provided the oxford definition already and rejected it because it didn't fit his narrative. He then decided to call anyone pointing it out "ignorant"

The guy calling anyone ignorant is a compliment given he called a black man an uncle Tom for holding a different opinion than him.

The term is not an all purpose insult of white people. PERIOD.

 

[RikidyBones]

I'm tired of this stupid conversation... but the definitions you posted said "sometimes" and "often" disparaging; not always. Your 2nd definition also makes the point that I have - it is associated more with behavior and personal tastes than with a race.

The definition he provided doesn't say sometimes white though.

The one from oxford also mentions race and calls it derogatory. Please see below AGAIN


Watching you try to justify a racial derogatory term is funny though.

 

[hog88]

Is BB arguing with a dictionary?

 

[Majors]

He was provided the oxford definition already and rejected it because it didn't fit his narrative. He then decided to call anyone pointing it out "ignorant"

The guy calling anyone ignorant is a compliment given he called a black man an uncle Tom for holding a different opinion than him.

Just liberal tolerated racism or polite racism.

 

[Majors]

Is BB arguing with a dictionary?

He’s back tracked on dictionary’s in a week to fit his personal views. He is also encouraged to use derogatory terms because Jeff Foxworthy capitalized on it 30 years ago.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The definition he provided doesn't say sometimes white though.

I didn't say that it did. It said sometimes disparaging. It's not always disparaging ... and it never just refers to race and race alone either. It is not an all purpose, "one word suits all" racial slur.

Now ... I'm done with this. It's stupid.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Just liberal tolerated racism or polite racism.

That is so stupid.

 

[hog88]

I didn't say that it did. It said sometimes disparaging. It's not always disparaging ... and it never just refers to race and race alone either. It is not an all purpose, "one word suits all" racial slur.

Now ... I'm done with this. It's stupid.

I've heard the N word being used in what seems like a term of endearment "my n-word" and I've heard white people being called the N-word.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I've heard the N word being used in what seems like a term of endearment "my n-word" and I've heard white people being called the N-word.

Good for you.

You are not going to get me to believe that "redneck" is a racial slur in the same mold as "n***er." If that is what you believe. then we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[hog88]

Good for you.

You are not going to get me to believe that "redneck" is a racial slur in the same mold as "n***er." If that is what you believe. then we will just have to agree to disagree.

Redneck most certainly is used as a racial slur by some.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Redneck most certainly is used as a racial slur by some.

There can be exceptions to just about anything ... but I believe that would be rare. There is normally a component of unrefined behavior and unsophisticated personal tastes and a simplistic lifestyle associated. I don't believe that redneck is the same all purpose insult as "n***er."

If you disagree? Fine. I don't care.

 

[Majors]

Good for you.

You are not going to get me to believe that "redneck" is a racial slur in the same mold as "n***er." If that is what you believe. then we will just have to agree to disagree.

Looks like you need some DEI training.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Looks like you need some DEI training.

LOL. It's just the argument itself isn't it? Nobody is this obstinate.

We can agree to disagree. Stop responding to me on this. It's annoying.

 

[TheDeeble]

LOL. It's just the argument itself isn't it? Nobody is this obstinate.

We can agree to disagree. Stop responding to me on this. It's annoying.

Spoken like someone who is priveleged and needs to check their privelage with some DEI training.

 

[Majors]

LOL. It's just the argument itself isn't it? Nobody is this obstinate.

We can agree to disagree. Stop responding to me on this. It's annoying.

I dont use either term, so therefore there is no agree to disagree. Both are used derogatory towards the race it’s directed at. Annoying is trying to validate a derogatory term as acceptable.

 

[Sea Ray]

"White privilege" is a racial derogatory term.

 

[RikidyBones]

I didn't say that it did. It said sometimes disparaging. It's not always disparaging ... and it never just refers to race and race alone either. It is not an all purpose, "one word suits all" racial slur.

Now ... I'm done with this. It's stupid.

All of the definitions specifically define it using one race. You're wrong.

 

[zhangliao04]

Time out, guys. I just need to know when it’s okay to argue against or defend the definition found in a highly established dictionary?

TIA

 

[EasternVol]

I'm talking about it's complete history ... not just it's origin. This is one of the damn dumbest things I've ever seen discussed here. You boring people just want to argue.

I saw and heard it used that way up to my teens so in fairly modern times. Look at Twain's writing, which was way long after the word originated.
If we write something silly we can expect others to take exception.

 

[n_huffhines]

Redneck most certainly is used as a racial slur by some.

wtf.

Only a hillbilly would ever be offended by the word, and that's how you know it's not a slur against whites. When somebody says "redneck," I know they're not talking about me. If I hear "cracker," they might be talking about me. Obviously, there is a huge difference between redneck and an actual racial slur.

 

[hog88]

wtf.

Only a hillbilly would ever be offended by the word, and that's how you know it's not a slur against whites.

Seriously? When some of our posters here use the term it most certainly is a slur against whites. Primarily southern white males. Do I need to quote some posts?

 

[n_huffhines]

Seriously? When some of our posters here use the term it most certainly is a slur against whites. Primarily southern white males. Do I need to quote some posts?

The fact that you have to be so specific here (and you're not specific enough, TBH) is why you should know it's different. Someone can say "cracker" and they might be talking about me. The fact that I'm white (and from the south) but would never accurately be referred to as a "redneck" is the distinction.

 

[EasternVol]

The fact that you have to be so specific here (and you're not specific enough, TBH) is why you should know it's different. Someone can say "cracker" and they might be talking about me. The fact that I'm white (and from the south) but would never accurately be referred to as a "redneck" is the distinction.

Accurately? When it's used as a slur the qualifiers in your mind of education, attitude, behavior, etc. don't apply. You're white so you qualify. Or you're Southern so you qualify.

 

[n_huffhines]

Accurately? When it's used as a slur the qualifiers in your mind of education, attitude, behavior, etc. don't apply. You're white so you qualify. Or you're Southern so you qualify.

No, I don't. WTF. And if you have to specify southern, then the point remains.

Clearly, there is a difference between cracker and redneck, right? Can you guys admit that much? Probably not.