The cancel culture is getting out of control

[Orangeslice13]

We have a real life trans girl rape another girl in the bathroom.
What education should the school have provided to prevent this “harassment “?

 

[RockyTop85]

The schools fail every day at preventing harassment on any number of issues. Heather’s situation isn’t grounds for interrupting parental rights and/or decisions on when to discuss the topic.
And
You’ve lost your mind if you think an 8 year old starts talking about seeing a penis at school and law enforcement isn’t immediately involved.

Your relative weighing of the two competing interests is irrelevant. The fact that the law fails to address the situation is a problem. Particularly when Heather’s two moms sue the school for taking your approach of letting her get bullied.

Calling the cops because a kid walked in on somebody taking a leak? What an absolute Karen move. Where’s that poonification thread…

 

[Orangeslice13]

Your relative weighing of the two competing interests is irrelevant. The fact that the law fails to address the situation is a problem. Particularly when Heather’s two moms sue the school for taking your approach of letting her get bullied.

Calling the cops because a kid walked in on somebody taking a leak? What an absolute Karen move. Where’s that poonification thread…

Lolololol
You’re a funny guy.

Edit: he/him he/she whatever your pretending to be.

 

[Orangeslice13]

We have a real life trans girl rape another girl in the bathroom.
What education should the school have provided to prevent this “harassment “?

^^^^^^^

 

[RockyTop85]

Lolololol
You’re a funny guy.

Edit: he/him he/she whatever your pretending to be.

4 whole posts before veering off-topic! New record?

Proud of you, boo.

 

[MemphisVol77]

Also, if Heather walks in on her uncle Sally in the bathroom and tells your kid’s class that Sally is a woman who has a penis, now your kids are learning about transgenderism from the imagination of an 8 year old because some Karen might sue the teacher.

Better they learn about it from the imagination of an 8 year old than the imagination of a deranged pro-LBQTMNX*/2QRXZ teacher who thinks it's appropriate to teach it to an 8 year old.

 

[RockyTop85]

Better they learn about it from the imagination of an 8 year old than the imagination of a deranged pro-LBQTMNX*/2QRXZ teacher who thinks it's appropriate to teach it to an 8 year old.

Why do we even have teachers, really? Do we even need them? Just hand over the keys to the scissors cabinet and let the kids run around the school. They’ll keep an eye on each other. It’ll be fine.

 

[KB5252]

Why do we even have teachers, really? Do we even need them? Just hand over the keys to the scissors cabinet and let the kids run around the school. They’ll keep an eye on each other. It’ll be fine.

I've got a serious question. Would you want some right wing or left wing nut telling your kids how to feel about x or y? Some things, like sexuality are best left to parents to decide. Everyone is going to feel s little different about any subject. We should leave it to parents, do gooders injecting themselves into private matters is just not a good idea.

 

[OHvol40]

I've got a serious question. Would you want some right wing or left wing nut telling your kids how to feel about x or y? Some things, like sexuality are best left to parents to decide. Everyone is going to feel s little different about any subject. We should leave it to parents, do gooders injecting themselves into private matters is just not a good idea.

Meh, this isn’t a black and white issue for me. I agree that there is subject matter, such as some aspects of sexuality, that shouldn’t be addressed in grade school. It’s not their place. Then again, I have no problem with sex education. Spending time at a county health dept taught me how desperate the public need is for birth control/safe sex practice education. It’s clear that many parents neglect these topics. I would think that the anti-abortion crowd would be on board with good solutions to unwanted pregnancies as well… but I don’t pretend to understand their motivations or the intricacies of their beliefs.

In all, I feel confident that me and my wife have enough recurring, frequent, and deliberate conversations with our kids about what matters to us that they understand our family’s beliefs. I’m not worried about someone else “indoctrinating” my children.

 

[Orangeslice13]

4 whole posts before veering off-topic! New record?

Proud of you, boo.

Lol
Ok.
I asked the questions I wanted you gave answers. I asked follow ups you gave answers I thought were funny. I’m done with my questions that made you feel foolish and now you’re lashing out.
That’s typical of you and honestly the rest I usually don’t waste time with you

 

[Sandman 423]

Why do we even have teachers, really? Do we even need them? Just hand over the keys to the scissors cabinet and let the kids run around the school. They’ll keep an eye on each other. It’ll be fine.

Umm.......... We have them to teach a curriculum. The response of a teacher to say "I am going to teach your 6-7-8 yr old about sexual stuff whether their parents want me to or not." is absurd. It's kinda a creepy hill to die on, imo.

 

[RockyTop85]

I've got a serious question. Would you want some right wing or left wing nut telling your kids how to feel about x or y? Some things, like sexuality are best left to parents to decide. Everyone is going to feel s little different about any subject. We should leave it to parents, do gooders injecting themselves into private matters is just not a good idea.

I already answered this question. It was the first thing Slice asked me, and it’s not the conversation we were having.

Do you want a perfectly normal teacher to be unable to explain to kids why it’s wrong to bully a child that has two mothers?

In trying to stop a very specific outcome, they wrote a law that also stops ALL teachers from carrying out some duties that we should want them to carry out. Not every human is a right wing or left wing nut who takes their politics to work looking to carry out some master plan for their side of the culture war. If you believe that, then you need help.

The point of the teacher is to act in loco parentis and to be the adult in the room who… teaches. This law will stop the ones who are political from doing some bad stuff but it will also stop them and others from doing things that are useful. And if you can’t trust a generic teacher to do act like adults and give better instruction than an 8 year old, then your problem is with the public school institution and this has nothing to do with parental rights. It is just a pretext for undermining the institution.

Lots of people seem to be struggling to follow the conversation so maybe it was a bad example.

 

[RockyTop85]

Umm.......... We have them to teach a curriculum. The response of a teacher to say "I am going to teach your 6-7-8 yr old about sexual stuff whether their parents want me to or not." is absurd. It's kinda a creepy hill to die on, imo.

You misspelled strawman in your username.

In all of my examples, the “sexual stuff” (and some non-sexual stuff) already came up without the teacher doing anything. The choice given in the examples isn’t “teachers teaching about it, regardless of whether their parents want them to.” That is a shamefully bad strawman.

The point of the examples was what the law prohibits in situations other than this one narrow circumstance that you guys are fixated on.

It may be a poor law but it’s definitely an effective propaganda tool. They’ve got the psychological profile of their base down pat.

 

[RockyTop85]

Lol
Ok.
I asked the questions I wanted you gave answers. I asked follow ups you gave answers I thought were funny. I’m done with my questions that made you feel foolish and now you’re lashing out.
That’s typical of you and honestly the rest I usually don’t waste time with you

Im old enough to remember when you said Danth’s law applied to stuff like this.

 

[Sandman 423]

You misspelled strawman in your username.

In all of my examples, the “sexual stuff” (and some non-sexual stuff) already came up without the teacher doing anything. The choice given in the examples isn’t “teachers teaching about it, regardless of whether their parents want them to.” That is a shamefully bad strawman.

The point of the examples was what the law prohibits in situations other than this one narrow circumstance that you guys are fixated on.

It may be a poor law but it’s definitely an effective propaganda tool. They’ve got the psychological profile of their base down pat.

Actually, I didn't see any of your examples, because I started on the last page. My response fits perfectly to the post I responded to.

 

[RockyTop85]

Actually, I didn't see any of your examples, because I started on the last page. My response fits perfectly to the post I responded to.

No it doesn’t. Context matters. His post even says the subject was already being discussed among 8 year olds and you went ass over tea kettle with “teaching it whether their parents want you to or not.” That doesn’t “fit perfectly” with even the context available to you.

This law doesn’t prohibit “deranged pro-LBQTMNX*/2QRXZ teachers” from “teaching your 6-7-8 yr old about sexual stuff whether their parents want me to or not.”

It prohibits all teachers from teaching anything about those subjects, regardless of how the subject arises, and does not articulate the age when that prohibition ends.

It is a small problem with the law, that could have been fixed. But then it would not have driven a wedge between people who can’t think these things through and those that can.

 

[NCFisher]

It is amusing you don't see the cancel culture on your side of the aisle. Right now conservatives are stomping their feet and boycotting Disney because Disney had the audacity to refer to them as friends.

It's rather more than that. "Friends" is a subtle exponentiation of the gender/sexual mind-***** of children that Disney has either knowingly or ignorantly become a tool for. Said child mind-***** has been with us for generations in academia and in recent decades filtered down into K12. It's purpose is the replacement of the family with the autocratic, Marxist-based state. It was seeded with WW2-era Marxist dissidents fleeing the European theater and insinuating itself in the U.S. academe under the guise of progressivism and calling itself 'critical studies'. At war's end with the actual horror of Marxism proving even more destructive than the national socialist's fascism and an expansionist industrialization putting money in workers pockets and raising living standards, no one was pining for socialism. The socialists asked "WTF do we do now to sell it?"

The answer was to target women, minorities - blacks in particular, and "the homosexuals", which devolved and branched out into an alphabet soup umbrella of gender/sexually dystopic identity groups; this would be the new spearpoint since the universalist workers "Unite!" theme held no appeal outside of Stalinist, Maoist autocrats ability to impose it. There is but one way to mainstream Marxist thought in such an environment and was the singular thing Marx and Engels got right; control the minds of the youth and you will overcome even the staunchest market-based, constitutional system. The state must come to possess the mind of the child and ever increasingly diminish the role of parent. Amid plummeting approval in 2020, BLM - exhibit A of Marxists in blackface - removed their denunciation of the nuclear family and goal of disrupting it.

It has been a smashing success in the black community to the detriment of that community, which into the 1960s had marriage and legitimate-birth rates not out of whack with whites and other groups. Contrary to narrative, slavery or discrimination did not destroy the black family, the state did. The progressive, Marxian-based state, to be exact.

Again, whether witting or ignorant tool, corporations 'me-too' acceptance the narrative puts them at odds with not just American, but Western society generally. "Friends" is just an example of the deeper problem with Disney, Coke, etc. These things are not occurring in a vacuum. That some seize on such examples may be vocally inarticulate, but at least demonstrates their awareness a broader, purposeful corrosion is taking place. The intellectually inarticulate appear not to recognize it at all.

 

[BreatheUT]

This thread is filled with feelings.

As Clay Travis once quoted, "I'm offended that you're offended."

 

[Orangeslice13]

Im old enough to remember when you said Danth’s law applied to stuff like this.

You should read dearth’s law.
It doesn’t apply to answering questions or responding to statements where you actually invoked the principle of the law.
Are you sure you’re a lawyer?

Don’t answer, that’s a rhetorical question.
Do you know what that means?

Don’t answer, that’s also rhetorical.

 

[Orangeslice13]

?

 

[RockyTop85]

You should read dearth’s law.
It doesn’t apply to answering questions or responding to statements where you actually invoked the principle of the law.
Are you sure you’re a lawyer?

Don’t answer, that’s a rhetorical question.
Do you know what that means?

Don’t answer, that’s also rhetorical.

I’m just going by what I was told, which is that claiming you befuddled someone until they got mad was a form of emulating Danth. But the person who said that is pretty unreliable, so who knows.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m just going by what I was told, which is that claiming you befuddled someone until they got mad was a form of emulating Danth. But the person who said that is pretty unreliable, so who knows.

The “made you look” caused you laugh didn’t it?
I’m a funny guy too

 

[KB5252]

I already answered this question. It was the first thing Slice asked me, and it’s not the conversation we were having.

Do you want a perfectly normal teacher to be unable to explain to kids why it’s wrong to bully a child that has two mothers?

In trying to stop a very specific outcome, they wrote a law that also stops ALL teachers from carrying out some duties that we should want them to carry out. Not every human is a right wing or left wing nut who takes their politics to work looking to carry out some master plan for their side of the culture war. If you believe that, then you need help.

The point of the teacher is to act in loco parentis and to be the adult in the room who… teaches. This law will stop the ones who are political from doing some bad stuff but it will also stop them and others from doing things that are useful. And if you can’t trust a generic teacher to do act like adults and give better instruction than an 8 year old, then your problem is with the public school institution and this has nothing to do with parental rights. It is just a pretext for undermining the institution.

Lots of people seem to be struggling to follow the conversation so maybe it was a bad example.

Shouldn't their mission be to stop bullying regardless of who and why?

I realize not everyone is a right or left nut but there are enough of them that are. Particularly in some areas of the country and school systems.

Unfortunately some of them think their job is to advocate instead of be the adult in the room.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

It's rather more than that. "Friends" is a subtle exponentiation of the gender/sexual mind-***** of children that Disney has either knowingly or ignorantly become a tool for. Said child mind-***** has been with us for generations in academia and in recent decades filtered down into K12. It's purpose is the replacement of the family with the autocratic, Marxist-based state. It was seeded with WW2-era Marxist dissidents fleeing the European theater and insinuating itself in the U.S. academe under the guise of progressivism and calling itself 'critical studies'. At war's end with the actual horror of Marxism proving even more destructive than the national socialist's fascism and an expansionist industrialization putting money in workers pockets and raising living standards, no one was pining for socialism. The socialists asked "WTF do we do now to sell it?"

The answer was to target women, minorities - blacks in particular, and "the homosexuals", which devolved and branched out into an alphabet soup umbrella of gender/sexually dystopic identity groups; this would be the new spearpoint since the universalist workers "Unite!" theme held no appeal outside of Stalinist, Maoist autocrats ability to impose it. There is but one way to mainstream Marxist thought in such an environment and was the singular thing Marx and Engels got right; control the minds of the youth and you will overcome even the staunchest market-based, constitutional system. The state must come to possess the mind of the child and ever increasingly diminish the role of parent. Amid plummeting approval in 2020, BLM - exhibit A of Marxists in blackface - removed their denunciation of the nuclear family and goal of disrupting it.

It has been a smashing success in the black community to the detriment of that community, which into the 1960s had marriage and legitimate-birth rates not out of whack with whites and other groups. Contrary to narrative, slavery or discrimination did not destroy the black family, the state did. The progressive, Marxian-based state, to be exact.

Again, whether witting or ignorant tool, corporations 'me-too' acceptance the narrative puts them at odds with not just American, but Western society generally. "Friends" is just an example of the deeper problem with Disney, Coke, etc. These things are not occurring in a vacuum. That some seize on such examples may be vocally inarticulate, but at least demonstrates their awareness a broader, purposeful corrosion is taking place. The intellectually inarticulate appear not to recognize it at all.

Damn, you are nuts.

 

[NCFisher]

Damn, you are nuts.

Articulate your argument or get back under the porch. What, specifically, is "nuts"?