The Case for Reparations

#181
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lawgator1 said:
It renders your question moot. You can't justify or excuse slavery because you think you can trace some confluence of events where descendants are "better off." "
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But, the descendants are the ones asking for reparations, not the enslaved. They're not here anymore.
 
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#182
#182
lawgator1 said:
It renders your question moot. You can't justify or excuse slavery because you think you can trace some confluence of events where descendants are "better off." "
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Not really. I never asked a moral question. I asked if they were better off.

You refused to answer because you know I'm correct.
 
#183
#183
As I have said before, I am willing to provide a one way ticket to the African country of their choice and $1,000 (even though my family never owned slaves) for every reparation seeker as long as they renounce citizenship and sign documentation to never seek entry into the US again.
 
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#184
#184
lawgator1 said:
Yes, we did them a favor by enslaving them. Brilliant.
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How many are enslaved now? How many choose to return to Africa? Nobody said slavery was a good thing but to think there's a large population of blacks that aren't better off today because of it is dumb.
 
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Really, how could they be so ungrateful? I'm sure that, in time, it will become equally apparent that the Holocaust was a boon for Jews and that women who have been raped should be grateful for the lesson they got on safety in public.
 
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#189
#189
lawgator1 said:
Yeah, blacks really ought to be thanking us for slavery.
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Thanking "us"? No.
No one alive had anything to do with enslaving their gggggrandparents.

They should however be thankful towards those that endured it to allow them a better life in a better place.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, we did them a favor by enslaving them. Brilliant.
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Not a comment to you (because you are intentionally provocative and not reasonable) as much as it is an observation to those who genuinely think this way.

The people enslaved had their destiny determined once their tribe was captured by another. Forced labor was no longer an option for the enslaved. They could be a slave to the capturing tribe in Africa, a slave in the Caribbean, or a slave in the Americas. How are the people living in those regions currently comparable? Are the descendants of Africa better off in one of those locations or are their circumstances similar. Of course, this thinking doesn't justify deplorable acts. I can think of few things worse than having one's liberty denied.

If we could peer into the future 200 years, knowing that our present day life would be horrible no matter where we found ourselves, would we choose a place where our descendants would have the better prosperity? I would.
 
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McDad said:
Not a comment to you (because you are intentionally provocative and not reasonable) as much as it is an observation to those who genuinely think this way.

The people enslaved had their destiny determined once their tribe was captured by another. Forced labor was no longer an option for the enslaved. They could be a slave to the capturing tribe in Africa, a slave in the Caribbean, or a slave in the Americas. How are the people living in those regions currently comparable? Are the descendants of Africa better off in one of those locations or are their circumstances similar. Of course, this thinking doesn't justify deplorable acts. I can think of few things worse than having one's liberty denied.

If we could peer into the future 200 years, knowing that our present day life would be horrible no matter where we found ourselves, would we choose a place where our descendants would have the better prosperity? I would.
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You'd volunteer to be a slave in a country you think has a better future!

Get the f out of here with that utter nonsense.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Really, how could they be so ungrateful? I'm sure that, in time, it will become equally apparent that the Holocaust was a boon for Jews and that women who have been raped should be grateful for the lesson they got on safety in public.
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Yeah, know a lot of actual slaves do you? What a maroon.
 
#199
#199
lawgator1 said:
Yeah, blacks really ought to be thanking us for slavery.
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Well they're pretty ungrateful for everything after too & use slavery as an excuse. Can I be offended for have an excuse for something that happened to my great great great great great great grandparents?
 
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