The Central Park dogwalker incident had hit full SJW outrage.

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Here are my two cents. This is a lot of silliness. She obviously is an emotional train wreck (she had a freakin' Instagram page set up for her pooch -- totally getting crazy cat lady vibes from her) and she completely flipped when he asked her to leash her dog. People in general don't like non-authority figures (i.e., people who aren't police, property owners, park rangers, etc.) telling them what to do in a public space. As a parent, I've seen lots of parents flip out when people try to them them what they can or can't do with their kids on a playground. And it has nothing to do with race. Now, did the hysterical reaction probably have something to do with his race? Probably, as she focused specifically on his race and said nothing about his age, height, clothing, etc when she called 911. Did she overreact? Definitely. Should she loose her entire life because of it? I don't think so. But it does point to some power dynamics in society and how privileged whites (especially white women) can weaponize the police against black persons.

I'd also like to hear her account about what he said he would do to her dog. That's not on the video and we only have his account.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You would yell at a women for 20 min for not having her dog on a leash? Sounds completely normal lol 😂
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I know you have the reading comprehension of remedial 2nd grader, but I literally just said that I'm not on dude's end of the spectrum. Like, literally *just* said it.
 
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k-town_king said:
Sorry you can't try to move what a Karen is. Specifically a white woman who is the type to call the manager or police.



I don't like people letting their dogs run around and crap everywhere either. He was completely in the right.
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He had a right to voice his displeasure. He crossed the line when he made the veiled threat against her dog, and tried to entice it to come to him. From his own Twitter account of the situation he said, "Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it." Then he started calling for the dog, and bragged about having doggy treats. I agree he did not directly threaten her, but there was absolutely an implied threat to the dog. So saying he was "completely in the right" is BS. Both parties were in the wrong, and I don't give a damn what the color of their skin was. She should have had her dog on a leash so as not to annoy other people, and he shouldn't have threatened the dog. Stupidity on both sides.
 
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evillawyer said:
Here are my two cents. This is a lot of silliness. She obviously is an emotional train wreck (she had a freakin' Instagram page set up for her pooch -- totally getting crazy cat lady vibes from her) and she completely flipped when he asked her to leash her dog. People in general don't like non-authority figures (i.e., people who aren't police, property owners, park rangers, etc.) telling them what to do in a public space. As a parent, I've seen lots of parents flip out when people try to them them what they can or can't do with their kids on a playground. And it has nothing to do with race. Now, did the hysterical reaction probably have something to do with his race? Probably, as she focused specifically on his race and said nothing about his age, height, clothing, etc when she called 911. Did she overreact? Definitely. Should she loose her entire life because of it? I don't think so. But it does point to some power dynamics in society and how privileged whites (especially white women) can weaponize the police against black persons.

I'd also like to hear her account about what he said he would do to her dog. That's not on the video and we only have his account.
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that seems reasonable...... I think he crossed the line when he pulled out treats trying to lure her dog to him.
 
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Weezer said:
He had a right to voice his displeasure. He crossed the line when he made the veiled threat against her dog, and tried to entice it to come to him. From his own Twitter account of the situation he said, "Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it." Then he started calling for the dog, and bragged about having doggy treats. I agree he did not directly threaten her, but there was absolutely an implied threat to the dog. So saying he was "completely in the right" is BS. Both parties were in the wrong, and I don't give a damn what the color of their skin was. She should have had her dog on a leash so as not to annoy other people, and he shouldn't have threatened the dog. Stupidity on both sides.
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100% exactly right....but the race-baiters are saying she should be charged for attempted murder and some such BS...it has nothing to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with entitled immature liberal idiots unable to resolute conflict
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
100% exactly right....but the race-baiters are saying she should be charged for attempted murder and some such BS...it has nothing to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with entitled immature liberal idiots unable to resolute conflict
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I wouldn't say it had nothing to do with race. I think race played a part in the call to the police. But they both acted like idiots, and both should be called out for it.
 
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Weezer said:
He had a right to voice his displeasure. He crossed the line when he made the veiled threat against her dog, and tried to entice it to come to him. From his own Twitter account of the situation he said, "Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it." Then he started calling for the dog, and bragged about having doggy treats. I agree he did not directly threaten her, but there was absolutely an implied threat to the dog. So saying he was "completely in the right" is BS. Both parties were in the wrong, and I don't give a damn what the color of their skin was. She should have had her dog on a leash so as not to annoy other people, and he shouldn't have threatened the dog. Stupidity on both sides.
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What he said is quite cryptic and could certainly be interpreted as a threat against the dog. Even if she understood that he just planned to offer it doggie treats, he has no right to feed someone else's dog without their consent. Does all of this warrant a hysterical 911 call claiming your life is at risk? No. Do I think she would have done it if the guy had been a middle-aged white dude in a cardigan? No. So I see some latent racism here (she either irrationally assumed her life was at risk because he was a black guy saying cryptic things or she was trying to weaponize her status vis-a-vis him to get him in trouble with the police). Either way, I don't see it as warranting her dismissal from her job.
 
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evillawyer said:
What he said is quite cryptic and could certainly be interpreted as a threat against the dog. Even if she understood that he just planned to offer it doggie treats, he has no right to feed someone else's dog without their consent. Does all of this warrant a hysterical 911 call claiming your life is at risk? No. Do I think she would have done it if the guy had been a middle-aged white dude in a cardigan? No. So I see some latent racism here (she either irrationally assumed her life was at risk because he was a black guy saying cryptic things or she was trying to weaponize her status vis-a-vis him to get him in trouble with the police). Either way, I don't see it as warranting her dismissal from her job.
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Read the post right above yours. I agree that race played a part in her call to the police. But to say the man did nothing wrong and was "completely in the right" just isn't true.
 
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evillawyer said:
What he said is quite cryptic and could certainly be interpreted as a threat against the dog. Even if she understood that he just planned to offer it doggie treats, he has no right to feed someone else's dog without their consent. Does all of this warrant a hysterical 911 call claiming your life is at risk? No. Do I think she would have done it if the guy had been a middle-aged white dude in a cardigan? No. So I see some latent racism here (she either irrationally assumed her life was at risk because he was a black guy saying cryptic things or she was trying to weaponize her status vis-a-vis him to get him in trouble with the police). Either way, I don't see it as warranting her dismissal from her job.
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Maybe I'm just wired different but I don't understand people saying I would have a different reaction if someone is of a different race. If I don't like someone telling me to get my dog on a leash then their race isn't going to matter. How they approach me might do it, but that has nothing to do with it. When my car alarm went off at 2am a few weeks ago, I didn't think to myself "I hope it's a white person trying to break in so I won't be as upset as if it was a black person". Everyone is different though.
 
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Just watched the video again.

What’s funny is how Karen went from being straight up pissed off to the point of angrily confronting the bird watcher, to amping up the drama voice, clearly terrified for her life while talking to the cops. 😂

Her life was never in danger.
 
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Weezer said:
Read the post right above yours. I agree that race played a part in her call to the police. But to say the man did nothing wrong and was "completely in the right" just isn't true.
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I think I probably agree with you on that. He's free to say "hey lady, put your dog on a leash" or even that he's going to report her. But once he claims that he's going to do "what he wants" and she "won't like it," he's escalating the situation and creating some degree of fear in her as to what he's going to do to the dog. None of this warrants a 911 call claiming her life is in danger. But people do stupid stuff when they're emotional. I just don't think what she did warrants being fired.
 
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evillawyer said:
I think I probably agree with you on that. He's free to say "hey lady, put your dog on a leash" or even that he's going to report her. But once he claims that he's going to do "what he wants" and she "won't like it," he's escalating the situation and creating some degree of fear in her as to what he's going to do to the dog. None of this warrants a 911 call claiming her life is in danger. But people do stupid stuff when they're emotional. I just don't think what she did warrants being fired.
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I don't think it warrants being fired or having her dog taken away. Calling the police was stupid, especially considering she was wrong in the first place to let her dog wander off leash. She should have collected her dog and left. And I have zero problem with him voicing his displeasure at her for letting her dog run off leash. But once he threatens the dog, he stepped over the line. I'd be ready to fight if someone hurt one of my dogs intentionally. But I'd also never have them off leash in a public park.
 
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Weezer said:
I don't think it warrants being fired or having her dog taken away. Calling the police was stupid, especially considering she was wrong in the first place to let her dog wander off leash. She should have collected her dog and left. And I have zero problem with him voicing his displeasure at her for letting her dog run off leash. But once he threatens the dog, he stepped over the line. I'd be ready to fight if someone hurt one of my dogs intentionally. But I'd also never have them off leash in a public park.
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Public consumption of alcohol is barred in Central Park. I'd love to see how drinkers would react if a stranger with no authority over them walked up to them and told them to stop drinking and if they didn't they would not like what would happen next. I think there would be more than a few fights precipitated by such an exchange.
 
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