The Civil War Day By Day Sesquicentennial Thread

#51
#51
April 16, 1861

Following Lincoln’s call to the state governors for the raising of militia, reactions were mixed. Even within some states, especially border states, there were conflicts. Tennessee had voted against secession by a margin of 10,000, but Gov. Isham Harris refused to send troops and asked the Confederacy for admission. Newspaper editor William Brownlow of Knoxville wrote he would “fight the Secessionist leaders till Hell froze over, and then fight them on the ice.”
 
#52
#52
April 17, 1861

The Virginia Convention votes to call for a statewide Referendum on Secession, scheduled for the 23d of May.
 
#53
#53
Jtrain got a question, I learned that after the war that at a church in Richmond a black man was in attendance at an all white church one Sunday. And he went up to take communion at the alter, no one would take communion with him but Robert E Lee did. My question is, why is he revered as a god or icon persay up to this very day but he was the southern voice for reconstruction?
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#54
#54
Coach Grizz said:
Jtrain got a question, I learned that after the war that at a church in Richmond a black man was in attendance at an all white church one Sunday. And he went up to take communion at the alter, no one would take communion with him but Robert E Lee did. My question is, why is he revered as a god or icon persay up to this very day but he was the southern voice for reconstruction?
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I would say that many in the south were supporters of the Lost Cause Movement, but at least an equal amount had known the end was coming long before it did for the Confederacy, and were willing to accept the quickest reformation with the Union possible, which was reconstruction.

Lee is so highly regarded because of his battlefield successes, and the fact that he was a true gentleman, respected both north and south. Here is a quote, albeit from wiki, shortly after his death

In an address before the Southern Historical Society in Atlanta, Georgia in 1874, Benjamin Harvey Hill described Lee as:
... a foe without hate; a friend without treachery; a soldier without cruelty; a victor without oppression, and a victim without murmuring. He was a public officer without vices; a private citizen without wrong; a neighbour without reproach; a Christian without hypocrisy, and a man without guile. He was a Caesar, without his ambition; Frederick, without his tyranny; Napoleon, without his selfishness, and Washington, without his reward.
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#55
#55
Thanks for you input GBOV. I know about his battlefield excellence, and his integrity of the honor code etc. He graduated the top of his class at west point. But I just thought it was odd that he was a supporter of reconstruction and being held to such high standards by southerners. I figured he would be black balled, or treated like our fans treat coach fulmer lol.
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#56
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Coach Grizz said:
Thanks for you input GBOV. I know about his battlefield excellence, and his integrity of the honor code etc. He graduated the top of his class at west point. But I just thought it was odd that he was a supporter of reconstruction and being held to such high standards by southerners. I figured he would be black balled, or treated like our fans treat coach fulmer lol.
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I'm sure some of the more extreme elements thought that way.
 
#57
#57
From a History Book I just happened to have laying around and I'm not sure of the date..../I]

Soon after the firing on Fort Sumter, Lincoln issued a call for 75,000 militiamen. Volunteers sprang up in such enthusiastic numbers that many were turned away - a mistake not often repeated.

This call for troops fired up the South and helped influence the border states of VA, ARK, NC and TN decide to join the Confederacy.
 
#58
#58
Coach Grizz said:
Jtrain got a question, I learned that after the war that at a church in Richmond a black man was in attendance at an all white church one Sunday. And he went up to take communion at the alter, no one would take communion with him but Robert E Lee did. My question is, why is he revered as a god or icon persay up to this very day but he was the southern voice for reconstruction?
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Lee inherited slaves from his father-in-law along with Arlington Plantation. Lee took a leave from the US Army Corps of Engineers upon the death to get the affairs in order. One of his first acts as owner of Arlington was to free the slaves working there and hiring them as freed men. Lee was never a staunch supporter of slavery. To him, it conflicted with his strong Christian beliefs.

I also find it beyond ironic that Lee married the daughter (Mary Anna Custis Lee) of George Washington's step grandson and adopted son,George Washington Parke Custis.
 
#60
#60
April 18, 1861


On this day in 1861, with the Civil War in the United States in its very early stages, Colonel Robert E. Lee was offered the role of Major General in the United States Army. Knowing that Virginia was likely to secede from the Union, Lee turned the offer down and resigned from the United States Army two days later. This despite having said to his son in a letter that ‘I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union.’ However, it was love for and loyalty to his home state of Virginia, that forced his hand to join the Confederacy. On the 23rd of April Lee took command of the armed forces of Virginia and began his role in the southern rebellion, in which he would rise to be the General-in-Chief of all Confederate forces. Almost four years later, on the 9th April 1865, his role in the war ended with his surrender to U.S. Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia.
 
#61
#61
JayVols said:
Lee inherited slaves from his father-in-law along with Arlington Plantation. Lee took a leave from the US Army Corps of Engineers upon the death to get the affairs in order. One of his first acts as owner of Arlington was to free the slaves working there and hiring them as freed men. Lee was never a staunch supporter of slavery. To him, it conflicted with his strong Christian beliefs.

I also find it beyond ironic that Lee married the daughter (Mary Anna Custis Lee) of George Washington's step grandson and adopted son,George Washington Parke Custis.
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Another ironic twist is that Lincoln had to force grant to free his.
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Volst53 said:
April 18, 1861


On this day in 1861, with the Civil War in the United States in its very early stages, Colonel Robert E. Lee was offered the role of Major General in the United States Army. Knowing that Virginia was likely to secede from the Union, Lee turned the offer down and resigned from the United States Army two days later. This despite having said to his son in a letter that ‘I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union.’ However, it was love for and loyalty to his home state of Virginia, that forced his hand to join the Confederacy. On the 23rd of April Lee took command of the armed forces of Virginia and began his role in the southern rebellion, in which he would rise to be the General-in-Chief of all Confederate forces. Almost four years later, on the 9th April 1865, his role in the war ended with his surrender to U.S. Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia.
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Most people don't realize that Lee was initially only in charge of the VA Volunteers, an administrative job in Richmond not a field command. It wasn't until the injury of Joseph Johnson during McClellan's Penninsula Campaign did Lee take field command.
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#65
#65
Before the war lee went in dark headed. At wars end he was white headed and crows feet of an old on his face. I learned that on a R E Lee special on PBS lol
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#66
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JayVols said:
Most people don't realize that Lee was initially only in charge of the VA Volunteers, an administrative job in Richmond not a field command. It wasn't until the injury of Joseph Johnson during McClellan's Penninsula Campaign did Lee take field command.
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It was town CSA generals named Johnston, one of then was commander on the army of Tennessee
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JayVols said:
Grant's wife Julia was the only person in Richmond that was allowed to be escorted by a 'servant' after the city's fall. Irony at its finest.
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The crazy thing is when I was student teaching I taught that stuff, and my supervising teacher got pissed and I nearly got kicked out of student teaching. (She was pretty racist against white people)
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#73
#73
Joseph E. Johnston
February 3, 1807 – March 21, 1891 (aged*84)

Joseph Eggleston Johnston
photo taken between 1861 and 1865
Place*of birth Farmville, Virginia
Place*of death New York City, New York
Place of burial Green Mount Cemetery, Baltimore, Maryland
Allegiance United States of America
Confederate States of America
Service/branch United States Army
Confederate States Army
Years*of service 1829–37 and 1838–61 (USA)
1861–65 (CSA)
Rank Brigadier General (USA),
General (CSA)
Commands held Army of the Shenandoah (1861),
Army of Northern Virginia (1861–1862),
Department of the West (1863),
Army of Tennessee (1864)
Department of South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida, and also the Department of North Carolina and Southern Virginia (1865)
Battles/wars
Mexican-American War

Battle of Cerro Gordo
Battle of Chapultepec
Seminole Wars
American Civil War

First Battle of Bull Run
Peninsula Campaign
Battle of Seven Pines
Vicksburg Campaign
Atlanta Campaign
Battle of Bentonville
Other*work Politician, Railroad executive
Joseph E. Johnston


I'm not trying to be a dick but his name is Johnston.
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#74
#74
Grizz, your post will be merged into the other CW thread, but AS Johnston died at Shiloh. JE Johnston fought out east and got hit at Seven Pines, and resurfaced out west.
 
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