The Cuonzo Martin Tenure As Of Today

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whobethis16 said:
The NCAA hadn't made their decision on the sanctions. If UT kept Pearl, they would've been so much worse. Would you accept a job offer if the IRS was sniffing all around it and could slam it? If you did, you're dumber than some of your posts. The fact is the coaches did not know what was going to happen and the risk outweighed the reward for most every one.
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Worse than the sanctions of hiring Zo.....I doubt it lol
 
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whobethis16 said:
You really want to be like KY in basketball? They hired the proven cheater who screwed over two programs and probably will them soon enough. Forgive me for having enough ethics, which will be reflected in my family and children, to not sacrifice things that are right just to win a damn basketball game.
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Yes I would
 
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volbeast33 said:
Yes I would
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And that's a sad day and what is wrong with everything in this country. I've not ever had anything against things you've posted, but holy hell if you are really willing to sacrifice that much just to win a damn game, I can't imagine the crap you'd do elsewhere.
 
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whobethis16 said:
You really want to be like KY in basketball? They hired the proven cheater who screwed over two programs and probably will them soon enough. Forgive me for having enough ethics, which will be reflected in my family and children, to not sacrifice things that are right just to win a damn basketball game.
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At what point did I mention Calipari? Did you read my post? I gave an example of a far worse situation than our Pearl incident and a school who went out and got a big name. Yes, it's KY, but what did they do? They wanted Patino and they paid for him. They wanted Calipari and made him the highest paid coach at the time. You pay for what you get.
 
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whobethis16 said:
And that's a sad day and what is wrong with everything in this country. I've not ever had anything against things you've posted, but holy hell if you are really willing to sacrifice that much just to win a damn game, I can't imagine the crap you'd do elsewhere.
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If u honestly don't think every single program has broken NCAA rules in some manner, I don't know what to tell u.....hell even Zo has broken some(though very minor).......if u care as much as u say u do then I would advise u to quit watching college athletics.
 
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whobethis16 said:
You really want to be like KY in basketball? They hired the proven cheater who screwed over two programs and probably will them soon enough. Forgive me for having enough ethics, which will be reflected in my family and children, to not sacrifice things that are right just to win a damn basketball game.
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We are the last ones standing.lol
 
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whobethis16 said:
The NCAA hadn't made their decision on the sanctions. If UT kept Pearl, they would've been so much worse. Would you accept a job offer if the IRS was sniffing all around it and could slam it? If you did, you're dumber than some of your posts. The fact is the coaches did not know what was going to happen and the risk outweighed the reward for most every one.
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Dude you don't know what you are talking about. All you need to know is UT wasn't willing to shell out the dough for a top coach. Hamilton thought he could find another Pearl, no pun intended, without paying top money. We went after Shaka Smart and low balled him, and he wouldn't even consider us anymore. I also know through someone special that Hart put on, and I quote, "the most amateur coaching search of all time" when looking for a head football coach, and I also know that Strong was our man we wanted but we also low balled him as well and he decided last second not to come. I actually around midnight got a call saying Strong is the coach, and it went south by mourning because of Hart and Cheek. Hart and Cheek are not well respected by our main donors and I have heard with my own ears that the Butch Jones hire was pure luck, and we had very few options left. We did contact Grudens agent, and the numbers were so far off his agent never called back just for a FYI. My point is, no top donors at UT think that these buffoons will hire a top notch coach. I've heard the words incompetent, unrealistic, and armature to describe him as a person, and the only reason he's still here is because of the money debt issue that he actually knows how to fix and is fixing, which the donors want more then anything. We will not hire a top notch coach, and we will settle for a mid major coach. You can call BS, but I'd take my word on it.
 
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It is obvious that the majority of the posters in this thread have never played much less coached basketball, even at the kiddie level. I hear complaints but no X and O solutions from the resident VN experts. Please do tell what you would do differently. I will hang up and listen.
 
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whobethis16 said:
You really want to be like KY in basketball? They hired the proven cheater who screwed over two programs and probably will them soon enough. Forgive me for having enough ethics, which will be reflected in my family and children, to not sacrifice things that are right just to win a damn basketball game.
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If you were half as ethical as you think you are, you'd knock it off with the high and mighty act.

Sometimes you have to break a few rules or step on a few toes to get to the top.

Also, what Bruce Pearl did wasn't even that bad compared to what other schools have gotten away with recently!
 
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whobethis16 said:
And that's a sad day and what is wrong with everything in this country. I've not ever had anything against things you've posted, but holy hell if you are really willing to sacrifice that much just to win a damn game, I can't imagine the crap you'd do elsewhere.
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What exactly did KY fans sacrifice?
 
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Special Ed said:
Cuonzo's better for the women's basketball team than he is for the men't team because his misfortunes keep reminding us that at least our women's team is pretty good.
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The ladies can hit free throws. That helps.
 
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We lost to number 8 and 12 in two different polls. Kentucky lost to number 18 North Carolina looks like a bad year for the SEC three NCAA teams at the most.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Martin was hired because he was one of a very select few willing to jump into the potential dumpster fire situation left behind.
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The administration likes fans like you. You keep buying that false hope they're selling you. It's the same as football. You can get a good one if you're willing to pay the price. UT wants to be first rate while doing it as cheaply as possible.

Martin was another Hamilton filler hire and nothing more. Not much was expected of him other than holding the fort down. He's not disappointing.
 
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Cartervol said:
The administration likes fans like you. You keep buying that false hope they're selling you. It's the same as football. You can get a good one if you're willing to pay the price. UT wants to be first rate while doing it as cheaply as possible.

Martin was another Hamilton filler hire and nothing more. Not much was expected of him other than holding the fort down. He's not disappointing.
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Carter hits it on the head right here. Martin is performing to his own level, he's not doing any better or any worse. After 2 1/3 years, we are seeing exactly what he is capable of doing, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting, mediocre results. If he takes them to the NIT this year and the administration decides not to move in a different direction, then expect more of the same.
 
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Cartervol said:
The administration likes fans like you. You keep buying that false hope they're selling you. It's the same as football. You can get a good one if you're willing to pay the price. UT wants to be first rate while doing it as cheaply as possible.

Martin was another Hamilton filler hire and nothing more. Not much was expected of him other than holding the fort down. He's not disappointing.
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So you think Bruce is coming back?
 
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I do not come over here very much, but I quit watching UT Basketball last year and have watched about 5-10 minutes this year. The reason is because it does not matter how many 5 star recruits this guy puts in the program they still are not going to win anything. They were getting out coached last year and it looks like it is just continuing this year.

Let me know when UT decides to pursue a competitive coach. It might be worth watching then.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
First off let's get the he is a racist slanders out of the way. I have been accused if it to many times before because I ask the hard truth questions that most people are to chicken to ask. But my question is. Did UT hire Martin because he was black? He did not have a proven track record. I know with all the crap UT had to go through no one wanted the job. But there had to be a better option out there. Yes its been said a hundred times that Martin sucks. And there have been a hundred threads who should they hire. But the proof is in the pudding. He can coach good defense. But his offense.needs work. That being said. I know Bruce isn't coming back. But I wish he was still the coach. Martin needs to take some lessons from all the hours of tape on Bruce. Lighten the heck up. Get amped up on the sideline. Fire up these boys. Paint his chest orange and show some excitement. Let loose like a Saturday morning belch after a Friday night benge. OK I will shut up and go back to my. Wait. What was my point??? Oh yeah I didn't have one. Just wanted to ramble. Where is my beer????
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They hired Martin because all of the other people they reached out to showed no interest in the job. No one else wanted the job.

That is in a nutshell why Martin got the job.

Good character guy! Won't embarrass the University! Players love him! Good recruiter!
 
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whobethis16 said:
You really want to be like KY in basketball? They hired the proven cheater who screwed over two programs and probably will them soon enough. Forgive me for having enough ethics, which will be reflected in my family and children, to not sacrifice things that are right just to win a damn basketball game.
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If we wanted a chaplain we could have hired one and a basketball coach too. You are reaching trying to justify Martin remaining here. We would have been no worse off if we had told the NCAA to put their penalties where the sun don't shine.
 
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Rudy123 said:
They hired Martin because all of the other people they reached out to showed no interest in the job. No one else wanted the job.

That is in a nutshell why Martin got the job.

Good character guy! Won't embarrass the University! Players love him! Good recruiter!
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The coach that beat him today wanted the job.
 
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knowthevols said:
If we wanted a chaplain we could have hired one and a basketball coach too. You are reaching trying to justify Martin remaining here. We would have been no worse off if we had told the NCAA to put their penalties where the sun don't shine.
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I'd rather have a chance and come up short (like Martin has the past two years) than know that even if they go 40-0, they get left out because my coach selfishly tells recruits "I'm breaking a rule, and if you are asked about this I want you to lie about it completely." If you think there wouldn't have been a post season ban for at least a year, you're ridiculously naive.
 
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