The Cuonzo Martin Tenure As Of Today

#52
#52
keckjm said:
Dude you don't know what you are talking about. All you need to know is UT wasn't willing to shell out the dough for a top coach. Hamilton thought he could find another Pearl, no pun intended, without paying top money. We went after Shaka Smart and low balled him, and he wouldn't even consider us anymore. I also know through someone special that Hart put on, and I quote, "the most amateur coaching search of all time" when looking for a head football coach, and I also know that Strong was our man we wanted but we also low balled him as well and he decided last second not to come. I actually around midnight got a call saying Strong is the coach, and it went south by mourning because of Hart and Cheek. Hart and Cheek are not well respected by our main donors and I have heard with my own ears that the Butch Jones hire was pure luck, and we had very few options left. We did contact Grudens agent, and the numbers were so far off his agent never called back just for a FYI. My point is, no top donors at UT think that these buffoons will hire a top notch coach. I've heard the words incompetent, unrealistic, and armature to describe him as a person, and the only reason he's still here is because of the money debt issue that he actually knows how to fix and is fixing, which the donors want more then anything. We will not hire a top notch coach, and we will settle for a mid major coach. You can call BS, but I'd take my word on it.
Click to expand...

You just saying "I'd take my word on it" is as believable as my saying I'm cousins with the Queen of England. Until you actually use names and credible sources on here, you're as unreliable as you say I am.
 
#53
#53
onevol74 said:
I do not come over here very much, but I quit watching UT Basketball last year and have watched about 5-10 minutes this year. The reason is because it does not matter how many 5 star recruits this guy puts in the program they still are not going to win anything. They were getting out coached last year and it looks like it is just continuing this year.

Let me know when UT decides to pursue a competitive coach. It might be worth watching then.
Click to expand...

Don't bother watching at all if you just want to do it when we win. I may do that with professional sports, but I watch and follow my alma mater regardless. We won't miss you.
 
#54
#54
knowthevols said:
If we wanted a chaplain we could have hired one and a basketball coach too. You are reaching trying to justify Martin remaining here. We would have been no worse off if we had told the NCAA to put their penalties where the sun don't shine.
Click to expand...

I do agree somewhat I wish we would have just taken the punishment the ncaa handed down and just kept Bruce. The BB program will never see the heights it did when Bruce was at the helm. Never has there even been close to the excitement around the program when Bruce was here. In my opinion he was the best coach we have ever had hands down
 
Last edited:
#55
#55
whobethis16 said:
I'd rather have a chance and come up short (like Martin has the past two years) than know that even if they go 40-0, they get left out because my coach selfishly tells recruits "I'm breaking a rule, and if you are asked about this I want you to lie about it completely." If you think there wouldn't have been a post season ban for at least a year, you're ridiculously naive.
Click to expand...

What difference has it made? We haven't gone dancing for two years and it looks like we won't this year either. But we did come away with a victory over Savannah State in the NIT to go along with our two shameful loses to small schools that made it to the NIT.
 
#56
#56
knowthevols said:
What difference has it made? We haven't gone dancing for two years and it looks like we won't this year either. But we did come away with a victory over Savannah State in the NIT to go along with our two shameful loses to small schools that made it to the NIT.
Click to expand...

Did you not read what I said? I'd rather have the chance than have nothing to play for from day 1. What good did it do for Ohio State going 12-0 last year? Not a damn thing cause they couldn't go to the post season.
 
#58
#58
whobethis16 said:
Did you not read what I said? I'd rather have the chance than have nothing to play for from day 1. What good did it do for Ohio State going 12-0 last year? Not a damn thing cause they couldn't go to the post season.
Click to expand...

It sure helped in the Von Bell sweepstakes....
 
#59
#59
whobethis16 said:
Did you not read what I said? I'd rather have the chance than have nothing to play for from day 1. What good did it do for Ohio State going 12-0 last year? Not a damn thing cause they couldn't go to the post season.
Click to expand...

A lot of people knew we would not go dancing if we got rid of Pearl.
 
#62
#62
whobethis16 said:
You just saying "I'd take my word on it" is as believable as my saying I'm cousins with the Queen of England. Until you actually use names and credible sources on here, you're as unreliable as you say I am.
Click to expand...

Dude I'm not going to throw out the name of a top donor of the University of Tennessee that I know on the internet just for your entertainment. I'd care less what you and everyone else think I know, I'm just telling you that we don't get top coaches because our AD and president refuse to pay up. The donors give full support and there's no shortage of money, but unless it's a credible 100% great hire our donors refuse to pay top dollar for mediocrity. Donors don't make contracts, they have a vote, but it's up to the AD to make it impossible for guys like Kiffy to leave. Our top donors don't believe in Hart. Don't believe the BS you hear, I'm telling you I know a big time donor and he's said Hart isn't trusted with the ability to make a great hire. We are lucky to have Butch, but I can promise you he was our 7-8th option. I got a phone call saying Strong was our coach even, it was around midnight, the contract was being finalized by Hart and by the end of the night he had ruined negotiations so much that Strong said I'm done. Donors had a set amount they thought he was worth and Hart wouldn't pay it. Jones accepted the job two days later. My guy said it was "amateur work" at best by Hart and Cheek. Us getting Cunzo had NOTHING to do with sanctions by NCAA. We simply will not pay up! The money is there. The guy I know could pay Butch's salary and still have everything he ever wanted. The donors don't trust Hart and Cheek right now, and why should they? Who's Hart and Cheek every hired that's been so grand?
 
#65
#65
Darth_Shiveman said:
If you were half as ethical as you think you are, you'd knock it off with the high and mighty act.

Sometimes you have to break a few rules or step on a few toes to get to the top.

Also, what Bruce Pearl did wasn't even that bad compared to what other schools have gotten away with recently!
Click to expand...

Oh how dare you! You spoke the truth, just be careful cause if it's not his opinion or statement he becomes the almighty poster and goes ape **** crazy on ya with them typin fingers!!!! How dare anybody else on this board state there opinion or god forebid a actual fact without running it by him 1st!!!!

OP may god have mercy on your soul for stating facts! Your just unethical!!!
 
#66
#66
whobethis16 said:
Did you not read what I said? I'd rather have the chance than have nothing to play for from day 1. What good did it do for Ohio State going 12-0 last year? Not a damn thing cause they couldn't go to the post season.
Click to expand...

I would much rather go 12-0 and argue that I am the national champion than be a 5-7 tennessee team but at least Dooley "lost the right way".......look at what all went on at Miami.....the NCAA is a joke.....hire the right lawyer and than run away with their tails tucked between their legs.
 
#70
#70
whobethis16 said:
I'd rather have a chance and come up short (like Martin has the past two years) than know that even if they go 40-0, they get left out because my coach selfishly tells recruits "I'm breaking a rule, and if you are asked about this I want you to lie about it completely." If you think there wouldn't have been a post season ban for at least a year, you're ridiculously naive.
Click to expand...

you are right...we have had a 3 yr postseason ban...banished to the hell of the NIT...
 
#71
#71
volbeast33 said:
I would much rather go 12-0 and argue that I am the national champion than be a 5-7 tennessee team but at least Dooley "lost the right way".......look at what all went on at Miami.....the NCAA is a joke.....hire the right lawyer and than run away with their tails tucked between their legs.
Click to expand...

The NCAA punishes those who admit wrong doing, and under expose those who lie even with substantial evidence. Miami has a man in prison blowing up on them, why would he lie? He's already screwed as it is. He told his story so that people knew the true colors of what college football is really like. It's not just Miami, it's every big school. Everyone cheats, it's just how well can you cover it up or deny it that matters most. The Bruce situation was bad for us because our incompetent AD in Hamilton throw our coach under the bus to save his job. He didn't protect Bruce, and had he done his job he could have advised Bruce to keep him out of trouble. We self imposed a 8 game SEC suspension on Bruce to still lose him seasons end? WTF did we even go through the trouble? It didn't save us from harsh sanctions, because we lost everything we had.
 
#73
#73
whobethis16 said:
I'd rather have a chance and come up short (like Martin has the past two years) than know that even if they go 40-0, they get left out because my coach selfishly tells recruits "I'm breaking a rule, and if you are asked about this I want you to lie about it completely." If you think there wouldn't have been a post season ban for at least a year, you're ridiculously naive.
Click to expand...

By hiring Martin we have put ourselves on probation for 3 years
 
#74
#74
whocaresgobobcats said:
such bs. you pay for a good coach and you will get one, regardless of situation. especially after the success UT just had and the great facilities.

lets quit acting like this program had some terrible sanctions on it.


why would frank martin want to jump into the dumpsterfire of a program like South Carolina.
Click to expand...

Remind me of the last time we just threw a wad of cash at a basketball coach in hopes of luring him to the recruiting hotbed of East Tennessee?

Call it BS all you want, but when Martin took the job, no one had any idea what the NCAA sanctions would be. We hired on a shoestring budget and got what we got. So, my statement is absolutely correct. He was one of a few coaches willing to come here with our unknown status in regards to the NCAA, our seemingly gutted roster, and our stingy budget restrictions.

Would we have coaxed a bigger name by waving $5 mil./year? Sure, but if you believe that was ever an option for the administration of the time, then, well...

I didn't at the time, and I still don't approve of the approach we used in the hiring process, but we got what we got.
 
#75
#75
I don't know why people are surprised we lost to wsu. But it is a resume game we needed. We'll see how it turns out.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top