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fryeguy93 said:
Stuck at home with COVID.
Thought to myself; Hey! let's watch the White Sox.

SO, it's math time.

White Sox have hit the 100 loss mark with 31 games remaining.

Losses: On the season long pace of .237= These NO-GO SOX will finish at 38-124. Four losses more than the Expansion 1962 Mets for the MLB record.
To avoid the loss record held by the '62 Mets, the Sox would have to finish at least .372 (12-19) in their last 31 games. And that would still make them 43-119

However, with recent win percentages. the White Sox are looking at 125 or 126 losses.

Winning Percentage: The .23664 winning percentage would place then only behind Connie Mack's 1916 Philadelphia Athletics at .235 (36-117 in 153 games). The A's won the pennant two seasons earlier and had to sell off many of their bet players.

With the 162 game schedule, the Sox would break the record unless they get more than 7 wins in last 31 games (.226)

Run Differential: the Sox are currently at -276 and are on pace to finish at -341. (-2.107 runs per game)
The 1932 Boston Red Sox hold the current record at -345 and the 1915 Philadelphia Athletics are second at -344.

The last time, I did the math, the NO-GO SOX seemed somewhat safe from breaking the record. I think now they break the record. An August 12th 12-2 win over the Yankees is the outlier that puts them out of #1 right now.

To break the differential record, the White Sox need to be outscored at -2.23 runs per game in the last 31 games. Even with the 10-run win against the Yanks, the Sox have been outscored 2.35 runs per game in August and 2.68 runs per game in July.

It's more likely that Chicago will break the record than they w

June was the Sox best month as they went 9-18 (.333) . In the almost two months since, the Sox have only 7 wins (.156).

Chicago is now through three games of a 10-game home stand.
1 more game vs. Tigers. 3 vs. Rangers 3 vs. Mets.
6 on road with O's and Red Sox.
6 at home with Guardians and A's
6 on road with Angels and Padres
3 at home with Angels
3 to finish at Tigers

Speaking of the Tigers.
the Sox lost their first game to Tigers.
The Sox lost their 100th game to Tigers.
And since they play the final series, will likely give them their last loss of the season.
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Sox won a game tonight to end 12 game losing streak.

As o 9/4/2024:

32-109 .227 141 games with 21 remaining
48.5 GB Guardians. 44.0 GB in wild Card.
5-41 in last 46 games (.109)
-303 Run Differential

Losses:
Current Modern Record: 120.......1962......New York Mets
Season Pace .227 125 Losses
Current Pace .109 128 Losses
White Sox would need to finish 11-10 to avoid record

Winning Percentage:
Current Modern Record: .235.......1916......Philadelphia Athletics 36-117
Season Pace: .227 40-122
Last-46 Pace (.109) .210 34-128

The Sox need to finish 39-123 to avoid the record. That would be 7-14

Run Differential:
Current Modern Record: -345.......1932......Boston Red Sox
Season Pace: -2.149/ game -348
Last-46 Pace -3.0/game -366


Even if the Sox improve their performance a bit as they play out the final 21 games, they will likely break all three records and go down as the undisputed worst team of all time.
If their results match the last 46 games. They will crush those negative records and put up numbers that no future team can approach.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
Sox won a game tonight to end 12 game losing streak.

As o 9/4/2024:

32-109 .227 141 games with 21 remaining
48.5 GB Guardians. 44.0 GB in wild Card.
5-41 in last 46 games (.109)
-303 Run Differential

Losses:
Current Modern Record: 120.......1962......New York Mets
Season Pace .227 125 Losses
Current Pace .109 128 Losses
White Sox would need to finish 11-10 to avoid record

Winning Percentage:
Current Modern Record: .235.......1916......Philadelphia Athletics 36-117
Season Pace: .227 40-122
Last-46 Pace (.109) .210 34-128

The Sox need to finish 39-123 to avoid the record. That would be 7-14

Run Differential:
Current Modern Record: -345.......1932......Boston Red Sox
Season Pace: -2.149/ game -348
Last-46 Pace -3.0/game -366


Even if the Sox improve their performance a bit as they play out the final 21 games, they will likely break all three records and go down as the undisputed worst team of all time.
If their results match the last 46 games. They will crush those negative records and put up numbers that no future team can approach.
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These are all modern (1900-current) records.
To show the epic natures of the White Sox suckage. Let's add in pre-1900 teams

Losses:
Current Modern Record: 120.......1962......New York Mets
Overall Record:........................134......1899......Cleveland Spiders
The Sox with only 21 games remaining could not break the Spiders' record. Of course, the Spiders' owners were shipping any player with a pulse to their other team (The Browns) and played most of the season on road

Winning Percentage:
Current Modern Record: .235.......1916......Philadelphia Athletics 36-117
Overall Record:.........................130......1899......Cleveland Spiders 20-134

In fact, there are five teams from 1886-1900 that had worse winning percentage than the Connie Mack Athletics. The 2024 White Sox could get as high as a 4th on the 1886-1900 list

Run Differential:
Current Modern Record:.....-345.......1932......Boston Red Sox (566 RS vs 1,330 RS)
Overall Record:........................-723.......1899......Cleveland Spiders (529 RS vs 1333 RA)

The Sox are getting nowhere near the 1899 Spiders playing in their last season. The Sox could finish no higher than 10th or 11th in the pre-1900 record books


More info on the team that could be the only team statistically worse than the White Sox

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Cleveland Spiders - Wikipedia

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The Spiders were one of four national league teams to fold after 1899. The Spiders/Browns controversy caused the league to ban ownership of more than one team. However, The Yankees 1950-60s empire was built on the back of a de facto dual ownership of the Kansas City Athletics that ended when Arnold Johnson died and Charles O. Finley assumed control of the As
 
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I understand that some of youns don't like Snitker but as of right now he would be my 4th choice for Manager of the Year in National League.

1. Pat Murphy Milwaukee
2 The Padres Manager
3. Rob Thompson Phillies Manager
4 Snitker


With all the injuries and to have the team in WC contention to me is a better job than having best record in baseball last year. Let the complaining begin.
 
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