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Volprofch05 said:
We drive long distance all the time, but how many potentially drunk/stressed out/asleep/on their phone drivers do you encounter on a road trip?
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I’m usually not driving whenever the drunk people are out. I’ve avoided all distracted drivers. I know how to get around them by now. Actually the worst I’ve encountered was a sheet of ice flying off the roof of someone’s truck. That was worse than distracting drivers because it changed directions multiple times before it made an attack on me 😂
 
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Volprofch05 said:
I understand the reaction to a horrific event VP, and I hope I don't come off as belittling the tragic loss of life yesterday, but statistics do support air safety. The last major crash by a commercial airliner in the US was in 2009. In 2022, 42,514 people were killed by motor vehicle accidents in the US, compared to 357 in total aviation deaths (including small private planes). I realize that there are many more people on the roads than in the air at a given time, but still. That being said, there are specific airports that are talked about as having concerning issues. Among the most prominent is Reagan, where yesterday's disaster occurred, due to the congestion of air traffic in that area. The other I have heard concerns about is San Francisco, due to some runway oddities. Nevertheless, this makes yesterday's events all the more tragic that accidents like these are rare.
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I've only flown into Reagan National once and thought it was neat to see all DC from above. I never really considered how cramped the airspaces actually is because there are buildings where commercial and private flights aren't allowed.

San Fran? Only been there once and I remember taking a fairly sharp turn before landing which, as a kid, thought was cool, but not dangerous.

Here's where I need help. Flew to LA once and I think I remember the plane flying lower than some of the buildings as we approached the runways. That may be a false memory OR that's a feature of San Fran, not LA.
 
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Drewbydoo said:
I've only flown into Reagan National once and thought it was neat to see all DC from above. I never really considered how cramped the airspaces actually is because there are buildings where commercial and private flights aren't allowed.

San Fran? Only been there once and I remember taking a fairly sharp turn before landing which, as a kid, thought was cool, but not dangerous.

Here's where I need help. Flew to LA once and I think I remember the plane flying lower than some of the buildings as we approached the runways. That may be a false memory OR that's a feature of San Fran, not LA.
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I saw video of a plane coming into a city on a routine landing approach that was flying pretty low to make the runway landing a success. I thought it cool while also thinking I hope they never have something happen where they hit homes & do a lot of damage on the ground.
 
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VolPack22 said:
I’m usually not driving whenever the drunk people are out. I’ve avoided all distracted drivers. I know how to get around them by now. Actually the worst I’ve encountered was a sheet of ice flying off the roof of someone’s truck. That was worse than distracting drivers because it changed directions multiple times before it made an attack on me 😂
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I don't pass distracted drivers. I like them to be in front of me where I can keep an eye on them. My thoughts are if I pass them, they can sneak up on you from behind and getcha. 🤔
 
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Halph66 said:
I don't pass distracted drivers. I like them to be in front of me where I can keep an eye on them. My thoughts are if I pass them, they can sneak up on you from behind and getcha. 🤔
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I treat them like a bear, as long as I’m faster than you I won’t get eaten lol
 
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Drewbydoo said:
I've only flown into Reagan National once and thought it was neat to see all DC from above. I never really considered how cramped the airspaces actually is because there are buildings where commercial and private flights aren't allowed.

San Fran? Only been there once and I remember taking a fairly sharp turn before landing which, as a kid, thought was cool, but not dangerous.

Here's where I need help. Flew to LA once and I think I remember the plane flying lower than some of the buildings as we approached the runways. That may be a false memory OR that's a feature of San Fran, not LA.
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Here is what I found online from websites discussing airport safety and pilot confessionals:

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (Washington, D.C.)

Challenges: While passengers get a great view of national monuments like the White House and the Pentagon during landing, pilots must dodge several no-fly zones located over D.C. and
navigate a “River Visual” approach requiring a 30 to 40 degree turn close to the Potomac River to line up with the runway.

San Diego Airport, California

Pilots have to be especially skilled to fly into this busy airport that is surrounded by mountains and strong tailwinds blowing in from the west. On September 25, 1978, a Boeing 727-200 collided in mid-air with a Cessna 172 while attempting to land at San Diego Airport. All 137 passengers were killed along with 7 people on the ground.

LaGuardia Airport (Queens, New York)

Challenges: Though scheduled flights are limited to 1,500 miles, except for Denver and Saturday flights, LaGuardia's popular location creates a difficult and busy approach for pilots navigating multiple runways and jets landing in New York.

San Francisco

SFO is very safe. The reality is SFO has dual closely spaced parallel runways that cross. Those controllers do an amazing job in keeping traffic moving and seldom miss a beat. Is it complex, you bet your butt it is complex and not every controller is cut out to succeed at SFO or similar designed airports with that traffic that SFO handles.
 
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VolPack22 said:
I treat them like a bear, as long as I’m faster than you I won’t get eaten lol
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That can be tricky passing them. I was in a 5-mile stretch yesterday where I wanted to blow by a truck. He was all over the road and going way too fast, but lots of cops in the area. It seems that I’m always in a hurry even when I don’t necessarily have to be.
 
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Volprofch05 said:
Here is what I found online from websites discussing airport safety and pilot confessionals:

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (Washington, D.C.)

Challenges: While passengers get a great view of national monuments like the White House and
the Pentagon during landing, pilots must dodge several no-fly zones located over D.C. and
navigate a “River Visual” approach requiring a 30 to 40 degree turn close to the Potomac River to
line up with the runway.

San Diego Airport, California

Pilots have to be especially skilled to fly into this busy airport that is surrounded by mountains and strong tailwinds blowing in from the west. On September 25, 1978, a Boeing 727-200 collided in mid-air with a Cessna 172 while attempting to land at San Diego Airport. All 137 passengers were killed along with 7 people on the ground.

LaGuardia Airport (Queens, New York)

Challenges: Though scheduled flights are limited to 1,500 miles, except for Denver and Saturday
flights, LaGuardia's popular location creates a difficult and busy approach for pilots navigating
multiple runways and jets landing in New York.

San Francisco

SFO is very safe. The reality is SFO has dual closely spaced parallel runways that cross. Those controllers do an amazing job in keeping traffic moving and seldom miss a beat. Is it complex, you bet your butt it is complex and not every controller is cut out to succeed at SFO or similar designed airports with that traffic that SFO handles.
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I’ve been to 3 of the 4, but for the life of me, I hate to fly at night into those locations, or any busy airport, for that matter.
 
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cardvolfan said:
That can be tricky passing them. I was in a 5-mile stretch yesterday where I wanted to blow by a truck. He was all over the road and going way too fast, but lots of cops in the area. It seems that I’m always in a hurry even when I don’t necessarily have to be.
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Cars these days. You don't realize it at times when you look down & see that you're
driving 85 mph & it feels like 65.
 
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cardvolfan said:
That can be tricky passing them. I was in a 5-mile stretch yesterday where I wanted to blow by a truck. He was all over the road and going way too fast, but lots of cops in the area. It seems that I’m always in a hurry even when I don’t necessarily have to be.
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Dash cams come in handy.
 
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