The emergence of Squirrel

#76
#76
You can tell your a real football guy.....up 50 pts and you say run the QB. Good lord! We sure as hell don't need a QB go down regardless if his our backup. Y'all f****** kill me!?

It's called the read option for a reason. The qb reads the defense at multiple points in the process. Watch HH run it and then go back and watch Milton. I don't want anyone to go down - I want quarterbacks that can execute the offense. Not exclusively a result of qb play, but we punted more in the second half against an OVC team than we have the last three SEC games combined. That's a function of qb execution and excellence.
 
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These are the coaches that concluded Milton was better than Hooker. Based on that alone - I will go ahead and opine - don't forget Coaches determined JG was our best and only option for several years - coaches are not infallible, my point is just that Milton to this point isn't a polished qb - and that the jury is still out - if you read back this started with someone's statement that Milton would be the starting quarterback next season. He is a work in progress imho.
This staff made no such determination on JG
 
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Funny thing was the guys behind JG weren't that good. I remember sitting behind some fool at the first game of the season last year that wouldn't shut up about Heupel needing to bench Milton and put Bailey in.
 
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It's called the read option for a reason. The qb reads the defense at multiple points in the process. Watch HH run it and then go back and watch Milton. I don't want anyone to go down - I want quarterbacks that can execute the offense. Not exclusively a result of qb play, but we punted more in the second half against an OVC team than we have the last three SEC games combined. That's a function of qb execution and excellence.
What you think is read option, is actually just eye candy. The play is going to the running back the whole time, the QB just acts like he could take it so the defense has to respect it. It especially adds numbers in the run game for us, and that’s exactly what we want to do. I don’t think we actually run many read option plays. I don’t know that 100%, but my eyes tell me most of the time the QB is just faking it. I doubt Milton had the choice to pull it on a lot of those runs.

That’s also why ignorant people think we run RPO’s all the time. A lot of the time we just run straight up play action, we probably really only run 4-5 RPO’s a game. Majority of the time we have some sort of action with the running back on passing plays, because we run it 56% of the time, so the defense has to respect that and have it’s eyes in the back field. What cracks me up is I see opposing fans say we spam the RPO game. They don’t know what they’re actually looking at. Honestly 75% of all football fans don’t know X’s and O’s, and even the other 25%, who have knowledge of X’s and O’s, don’t specifically know the coaches system. Unless you played in a certain system, or coached in a certain system, you don’t know the play calls, the rules, what everyone’s assignments are, etc. You don’t know what Heupels tendencies in play calling are. I can take a guess what play was called, a lot of people can, but at the end of the day we don’t really know. We aren’t in the head set, or have to run the plays.

For example, one of the building blocks of this offense is run and shoot choice routes. On one of Hyatts Td’s against bama, he had 3 routes to choose from. It was the 9 route (a go), the 8 route (a post), and the 3 route which is a comeback. Now even though I know RnS concepts are a big part of our passing game, the only reason I know those where the options for Hyatt on that play, is because Hendon Hooker himself broke that play down on some sports show this week. To me it looked like a called go route, but Hyatt actually chose it. So it’s hard to know what’s exactly called. Especially with Heupel, who uses eye candy like no one’s business, and everything we do in our offense from the pre-snap motions, to the play calls, to the concepts have purpose.
 
#90
#90
Hate to disappoint you but Milton will be the qb next year
Y'all are weird.

They're both UT QBs.

I want the best QB to play. Y'all are so damn weird. Why do so many of you all want to go back to erratic QB play after 2 years of Hendon Hooker? This program needs to move forward. Not back...
 
#91
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It's called the read option for a reason. The qb reads the defense at multiple points in the process.

The read man on a regular zone read is the end, or a backside defender. So I don’t know what you mean by multiple points, but it’s really only one read, at one point.
 
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These are the coaches that concluded Milton was better than Hooker. Based on that alone - I will go ahead and opine - don't forget Coaches determined JG was our best and only option for several years - coaches are not infallible, my point is just that Milton to this point isn't a polished qb - and that the jury is still out - if you read back this started with someone's statement that Milton would be the starting quarterback next season. He is a work in progress imho.
I mean what makes you point to that conclusion having no real knowledge of the plays called. I’d agree with you if he was throwing it right at defenders. But he isn’t. There could be many mishaps and disconnections from the young wide receivers he was playing with. Our offense runs choice routes. Also, people (most certainly QBs) need to get in the groove of a live game. He hasn’t seen the field consistently since Akron so I just feel like it’s not fair to judge off of this. Hooker was off at the beginning of the year as well if you don’t recall. Then he hit his stride. I’m actually fairly confident Milton can do very well in this offense.
 
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These are the coaches that concluded Milton was better than Hooker. Based on that alone - I will go ahead and opine - don't forget Coaches determined JG was our best and only option for several years - coaches are not infallible, my point is just that Milton to this point isn't a polished qb - and that the jury is still out - if you read back this started with someone's statement that Milton would be the starting quarterback next season. He is a work in progress imho.

We really still questioning the coaches… the ones who have beat both Florida and Bama this year and have us sitting at 7 - 0???

Also, your JG argument don’t hold water, b/c that was a complete different coaching staff led by the chief of all morons…

I have heard others (players, former players and media) that if you went on the limited amount of fall practices prior to the start of last season, Milton looked like the guy. I really don’t doubt Heupel and crews ability to get the best QB on the field.

You said Milton is still a work in progress, is Jackson not also still a work in progress, I can guarantee you a true freshman will be a work in progress as well. Here’s the rub, any good player would probably tell you they’re still a work in progress as they all want to continually strive to improve.
 
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#94
Please tell me exactly what you members of the legion of the miserable are basing your "wise" assessment of the backup QB upon. In the games he has played in this year where they actually ran the hurry up offense he has been accurate and made the right reads, not to mention deadly accurate with the deep ball. What we ran yesterday was the extreme slowdown offense that loses all of the benefits of the confusion created by the hurry up. Let the coaching staff make the decisions about the personnel. And before the comments about "CJH chose Milton over Hooker last year" start...this coaching staff had no experience then about how either of them would react in a game situation in their offense. Once they saw who ran it better the change was made. Enough is enough! Get behind this team during the kind of season we have been waiting for and quit finding reasons to tear the team down!
 
#95
#95
We really still questioning the coaches… the ones who have beat both Florida and Bama this year and have us sitting at 7 - 0???

Also, your JG argument don’t hold water, b/c that was a complete different coaching staff led by the chief of all morons…

I have heard others (players, former players and media) that if you went on the limited amount of fall practices prior to the start of last season, Milton looked like the guy. I really don’t doubt Heupel and crews ability to get the best QB on the field.

You said Milton is still a work in progress, is Jackson not also still a work in progress, I can guarantee you a true freshman will be a work in progress as well. Here’s the rub, any good player would probably tell you they’re still a work in progress as they all want to continually strive to improve.

I am simply questioning the guys that said Milton will be the starter next year period, end of discussion. To this point he hasn't shown me the football instincts and IQ of an elite quarterback. I think we are 4 -3 this year with Milton as a starter at best. Hopefully he become HH the second, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that will happen.
 
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Funny thing was the guys behind JG weren't that good. I remember sitting behind some fool at the first game of the season last year that wouldn't shut up about Heupel needing to bench Milton and put Bailey in.
He was half right
 
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I am simply questioning the guys that said Milton will be the starter next year period, end of discussion. To this point he hasn't shown me the football instincts and IQ of an elite quarterback. I think we are 4 -3 this year with Milton as a starter at best. Hopefully he become HH the second, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that will happen.

You’re basing that on what? & you say “based on what you’ve seen”, what exactly are you looking for? On the season in his limited action:

16 of 22 (not close to a full game worth of attempts for most QB’s) = 72.72% completions, 360 yards, 16.36 yards per attempt, 22.5 yards per completion,
Most importantly: 4 TD’s & 0 Int’s

Based on the numbers alone, he’s playing great when the opportunity comes.
 
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Why do some of you turn every thread into a next QB battle???
Squirrel, It’s in the thread title
 

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