The End of the Bruce Pearl Era.

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lylsmorr said:
OR, and what a brilliant thought, the team PRACTICES defense more. That could fix it :question: Or trying a defense that will cover up our weaknesses more. I bet you did not learn that in your time in Weak Message Board Insulting 112
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Look buddy.....you want to talk about weak......you are trying to rally support to fire a coach that has put a non existent program on the map of college basketball.
 
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VolDad said:
I have never argued that he needs to go. And unlike you, I don't contradict myself.

Since you are arguing about prior coaches, how did Pearl fare against O'Neil?
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So now you are leaning towards keeping Pearl......and you dont contradict yourself????? Out of all the CBP haters you have the worst arguments of all. Oh and I love your implication that O'Neil is a better coach than Pearl. Thats a real good argument. Keep it up you may find a bone to chew on one day, I doubt it but you never know......
 
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BasketVolKid said:
@BballVol...

what do you think of his comments quoted above?

pearl's style is pressure D. all these players from last year and this are guys he recruited to play his system. can you explain why the lofton and dane teams were better pressing than 08-09 and 09-10 (thus far) teams?Quickness and they were unbelievable at the three point line. Plus they were a bunch of second rate players with heart. You cant coach heart or effort. Long players like we have now arent generally as quick on defense, but can cause problems seeing the basket.
even though pearl's style is based on pressure D and transition baskets... do you think we need a half-court offense to fall back on when the D isn't getting us O? do you like our half-court offense? The half-court game is a concern. However, I would bet everything I own that you were whinning when Buzz was here that "we need a faster tempo" or "an exciting brand of basketball." I love fans like you, no matter if we are winning or losing you always have the solution.

do you think our effort has been good so far this year... and all of last year? if you think it's lacking... can you offer a reason why? As stated previously, I am concerned that we havent put together two halfs and sometimes play jekyll and hide basketball this season. However, I also recognize (other than the USC game) we have won every game we were supposed to and hung in to the last second with a very good Purdue team. I know this is hard for a guy that doesnt know basketball to understand, but you need to judge a bball team by its season, not a single game.

why is it that belmont, temple, jodie meeks, depaul, auburn, ole miss, wyoming (in the first half) and gerrity (to name the most memorable to me at the moment) either dominated us or played us even... when our talent level is superior to all those teams except UK who owned us twice. Probably the same reason a UK team (with superior talent) struggled late with a Miami of Ohio team........think about it.............if you cant come up with the answer you dont really understand basketball.

do you think the team performed ok last year? how about this year so far? do you see any improvement from last year to this year? how about any improvement from game 1 this year to game 11? Disappointed last year a little.....this year no..........ready to fire CBP absolutely not. I measure teams by wins and losses. Improvement.....are you serious...........its way to early to tell what this team is going to do.
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lylsmorr said:
I missed this gem. Green has a regular season SEC title to his credit, same as Bruce. Do rankings really matter come March? Especially if we lost the day after "achieving" that number 1 ranking.
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Go check the record books genius.......Green never won an outright SEC title. Nor did he win the east three times, nor did he.................... I could go on for hours.
 
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lylsmorr said:
I give Bruce full credit for 4 straight trips to the tournament and that #1 ranking, no matter how short lived it was. He was the coach when we achieved those things, and I was absolutely excited in his first years here. However, some people dub Bruce the savior and discredit the past saying "He's the best we've ever had" when in all actuality there was a stretch before when we have accomplished pretty much this same thing. I thought that he could be the guy to get us to the next level, however with what I have seen lately these guys are playing so...I don't want to say selfishly. I guess the best word is lazy. I take that back, there are a select few that get on the court and give 110%. ALL the players played with a different fire when he first got here. I don't know what happened between then and now, and I am not 100% sure who that falls on...but it seems to me that intensity trickles down from the coaches. If we ever came out flat and played stupid, coach would dig into us and chew everyone of us out. If the starters don't hustle, then put in someone who will. Let them know that this crap product that has been on the floor at times isn't acceptable.
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I have got the solution.....Lets hire your Martin High School Basketball coach to come save us from CBP. You love to talk about the glory days......Just so you know probably 80% of the posters on here played HS athletics and you obviously have never been to a bball practice at UT under CBP.
 
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VolDad said:
How much credit is being #1 for 40+/- hours due?

How many teams do you think throughout history might have met or exceeded that (10's, 100's)?

How many of those who have accomplished it do you hear bragging about it incessantly like you hear Pearl supporters brag about it?

I have followed basketball for over 40 years and have never once heard a fan bragging that they were number #1 for a few hours once. How about you?
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Oh yeah I totally believe you now, you are definitely not advocating for Pearl to leave Knoxville. Be true to yourself even if it is an ignorant argument.
 
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VolDad said:
I don’t know. I have not followed UT basketball for 40 years.You evidently arent following ut bball at all by your posts

Let's say that he has been the best. Let's also say that he has plateau and never will exceed what he has done. How many years does he get a pass?
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Tell me a coach who has had a better start at UT? Tell me a coach who has a better start anywhere (excluding bball schools)? Pearl gets a pass as long as fan apathy doesnt set in. Lucky for us you are in the small minority of fans that would like him to leave.
 
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Bballvol said:
Tell me a coach who has had a better start at UT? Tell me a coach who has a better start anywhere (excluding bball schools)? Pearl gets a pass as long as fan apathy doesnt set in. Lucky for us you are in the small minority of fans that would like him to leave.
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Reading comprehension is obviously a mirage to you.
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Bballvol said:
Great Post. I like it better than your 32612 previous ones.
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Why don't you just take your opinions to another board. We, especially the ones that have helped build this board, do not care for you to be honest. All you are doing is attempting to knock people on this board that have contributed to it's success for years. I hope FREAK or another mod bans you. You can not come on this board and take shots at people that have built the board at their number of posts.That's IGNORANT. Posts are the engine of the board. Go back to the last board you were kicked off. Mods, PLEASE make this go away.He's knocking everyone.
 
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This is so stupid. Obviously ppl don't remember what tn basketball was like b4 Coach Pearl came to town. Most of you would have rather seen the girls softball play then watched a mens bball game because how ugly we were. This is the second winningest coach in mens bball @ TN ever. Some ppl make me wonder why they are even fans when all they do is hate. Even great coaches have bad years. We are making leaps in the right direction when our team is in the big dance every year and we are ranked. Back in the day we were lucky to get a spot in the NIT. If ure sayin we havnt improved then you and I are watching different teams. Don't be a negaVol, we hav enough haters already.
 
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Bballvol said:
Look buddy.....you want to talk about weak......you are trying to rally support to fire a coach that has put a non existent program on the map of college basketball.
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Bballvol said:
Go check the record books genius.......Green never won an outright SEC title. Nor did he win the east three times, nor did he.................... I could go on for hours.
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Bballvol said:
I have got the solution.....Lets hire your Martin High School Basketball coach to come save us from CBP. You love to talk about the glory days......Just so you know probably 80% of the posters on here played HS athletics and you obviously have never been to a bball practice at UT under CBP.
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You really can't be this dense. You have to be joking.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Why don't you just take your opinions to another board. We, especially the ones that have helped build this board, do not care for you to be honest. All you are doing is attempting to knock people on this board that have contributed to it's success for years. I hope FREAK or another mod bans you. You can not come on this board and take shots at people that have built the board at their number of posts.That's IGNORANT. Posts are the engine of the board. Go back to the last board you were kicked off. Mods, PLEASE make this go away.He's knocking everyone.
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You can't be serious. Are you really taking your ball and going home. So if I pad my post count with emoticon retorts, can I continue to post here. The funniest part about it is he is supporting his team and the coach. What a terrible person to have on a message board.
 
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You are free to compare Pearl to Green, but Pearl clearly wins out. While technically they "accomplished the same thing" in the NCAA tournament by reaching the Sweet 16 (which Pearl did twice) in 4 seasons, Bruce exceeded what Green did in just about every other category. Pearl also didn't lose complete control of his team in his 4th season.

In 4 seasons at UT:

Jerry Green
89-36 (overall) 41-23 (SEC)

SEC finishes
3rd East, 1st East, 1st overall (tie), 4th East

SEC Tournament
2-4 (never past 2nd round)

NCAA Tournament (team lost to)
1st Rnd (Illinois St.), 2nd Rnd (SW Missouri St.), Sweet 16 (UNC), 1st Rnd (Charlotte)

Bruce Pearl
98-37 (overall) 46-18 (SEC)

SEC finishes
1st East, 2nd East, 1st overall, 1st East

SEC Tournament
3-4 (Championship game once, semis once)

NCAA Tournament
2nd Rnd (Wichita St.), Sweet 16 (Ohio St.), Sweet 16 (Louisville), 1st Rnd (Oklahoma St.)


Comparing the 2 just doesn't make much sense. And saying that people who support Pearl must have loved Green is without any merit. Get a new comeback.

And I didn't even need to include the #1 ranking. I believe we hit #4 in Green's final season, only to collapse and still finish 4th (in the SEC East).
 
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Bballvol said:
The king of the one liners........He cant come up with an argument that is worthy of discussion so he just sits in the corner and waits to give these great one line posts.
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No, I save actual substance for debates with posters who actually know what they are talking about. So far, you've claimed a guy who completely collapsed at the end of his tenure at UT "consistently" made the NCAA Tournament and Jerry Green never won an SEC title. You're just another Pearl slurper who doesn't know if a basketball is stuffed or inflated. Nothing you've said here merits discussion, only ridicule. Enjoy Ignoreland.
 
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jlovevols said:
Comparing the 2 just doesn't make much sense. And saying that people who support Pearl must have loved Green is without any merit. Get a new comeback.
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Its a great comparison. Pearl is marginally better than Green. All of the Fan Club tout Bruce as having done so much and that UT has always sucked, blah, blah, blah. The one thing he has really done a lot better than Green was promote and energize the program. No one is going to dispute that or not give him credit for it. That can only take you so far, and he needs to get control of his very experienced and "most talented" (his words, not mine) team this year.

Pearl has earned some time to make things better, but many of us doubt he can do it, because his coaching has lacked the necessary tools for success in tournament play. I hope he changes, or gets some assistants that can coach the team to be better defensively and offensively in the half court. If he continues the same, with early exits in SEC and NCAA tournaments while losing to inferior teams, the fan base will grow tired of his act, and there will be a change. It doesn't matter how much it scares the "who you gonna git" crowd.
 
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poncharello said:
You can't be serious. Are you really taking your ball and going home. So if I pad my post count with emoticon retorts, can I continue to post here. The funniest part about it is he is supporting his team and the coach. What a terrible person to have on a message board.
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We all support the Team, and many of Pearl's harshest critics are the biggest supports of the team.

His support of the coach is just throwing out the same crap from the pearl fan club manifesto.
 
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PPPpartsp3 said:
We all support the Team, and many of Pearl's harshest critics are the biggest supports of the team.

His support of the coach is just throwing out the same crap from the pearl fan club manifesto.
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So if you like the coach you are not entitled to your opinion on this board. Just trying to get it straight.
 
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poncharello said:
So if you like the coach you are not entitled to your opinion on this board. Just trying to get it straight.
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I don't care what anyone posts, and honestly, I get a good laugh at many of the posts. There is an ignore function for anyone to use that doesn't want to read what a particular poster writes.
 
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PPPpartsp3 said:
Its a great comparison. Pearl is marginally better than Green. All of the Fan Club tout Bruce as having done so much and that UT has always sucked, blah, blah, blah. The one thing he has really done a lot better than Green was promote and energize the program. No one is going to dispute that or not give him credit for it.

If he continues the same, with early exits in SEC and NCAA tournaments while losing to inferior teams, the fan base will grow tired of his act, and there will be a change. It doesn't matter how much it scares the "who you gonna git" crowd.
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I never said Green sucked or used the "who you gonna git" argument. Green had a whole lot more success than UT did through the mid-90's. If anyone remembers, those teams were beyond awful. I'm just saying that Pearl is better than Green in every category. Thus, the comparison is weak.
 
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jlovevols said:
I never said Green sucked or used the "who you gonna git" argument. Green had a whole lot more success than UT did through the mid-90's. If anyone remembers, those teams were beyond awful. I'm just saying that Pearl is better than Green in every category. Thus, the comparison is weak.
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If Green was even a decent coach, it might be compliment to Pearl to be better than him. He is only slightly better than Green in the accomplishment department, and many consider Green to be a huge failure.
 
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