The Foreign Trade Thread

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#651
n_huffhines said:
Most of what China is doing is stealing ideas that they keep in China. They're not really under-cutting you in other markets.
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If China improperly puts other people's technology in its products, all the sales of those products come at the expense of the developers, regardless of where the products are sold.
 
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#653
#653
n_huffhines said:
But would you feel like your neighbor was butt ****ing you?

Most of what China is doing is stealing ideas that they keep in China. They're not really undercutting you in other markets. Hence my example of your neighbor stealing your awning idea for his own household use (not to compete with you).
Interestingly, Ninebot copied Segway and then bought Segway for an undisclosed amount.
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I will pass that on to the golf club manufacturers that what appears to be stolen intellectual property and fake Callaway, Taylor Made, etc. golf clubs are really legit.
 
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As far as I can tell China changed its tone in the last week+. They probably saw escalation resulting and did it anyway.

Why? What's its strategy here?
 
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Velo Vol said:
As far as I can tell China changed its tone in the last week+. They probably saw escalation resulting and did it anyway.

Why? What's its strategy here?
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Because they do have a strategy, and in the early 90's made it apparent that they will be the next super power. And, they made it. And, they don't plan on stopping.

Make no mistake, the Chinese are the big bad wolf who are waiting, and they will within the next decade make the interior stronger by being able to strive and survive without USA dollars.
 
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Velo Vol said:
If China "steals" tech that it puts in its smartphones, which it sells in the global market, that's an unfair trade practice which everyone should object to.
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Sure, but are they doing this (anymore blatantly than anybody else)? If we know they are stealing smartphone tech and selling it around the world, then there is recourse for that. That's how Segway got bought out. They were bringing suit against Ninebot, and Ninebot just offered to buy Segway to fix the problem.

It's really hard to enforce any international IP law within China, but it's not the same problem globally. I'm sure it's a problem to some degree (as I would expect it to be from most countries), but what are we talking here? Is it significant?

The examples I tend to see are like the Chinese "stealing" windmill designs for their own use.

One problem with IP law is it's so arbitrary and everybody does what they can get away with to the detriment of others, including those who own the IP. Monsanto being a prime example of that. If you are clothesmaker and you see Nike Dri-fit for the first time and immediately go make your own version (which many companies did), are you any less of a thief than somebody who takes a windmill design idea? Why is one theft and the other is OK?
 
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#675
Yeah this doesn't make sense. What does he think MFG plants are going to open up over night? Hell no. People are going to go to other countries before they try to mfg here
 
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