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#13,852
... And if you look at Dechambeau's stats, it appears he hates the wedges too. Not knocking it close from 125 in and putting poorly is a bad combination. I didn't realize he was struggling so much.
 
#13,853
#13,853
GAVol said:
Swinging wedges that are the length of a 6 iron would drive me crazy.
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I thought the wedges would be the worst part of it but fitters have actually said they produce more spin and stop the ball quicker. The big issue has been people not getting the correct distance gaps between clubs. Especially the long irons.
 
#13,855
#13,855
The Players started today, anyone got any predictions. I'm going with Fowler in this one if he ddoesnt choke on Sunday again.
 
#13,856
#13,856
Got my first 18 of the year in this morning, lots of rust but played the back 11 shots better than the front.

My driver is, as always, a liability. If I gave an honest crap about my scores I would leave it at home but there's no fun in that.
 
#13,857
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creekerballer said:
I thought the wedges would be the worst part of it but fitters have actually said they produce more spin and stop the ball quicker. The big issue has been people not getting the correct distance gaps between clubs. Especially the long irons.
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Longer shaft = more speed = higher launch and more RPM.

I'd think there would also be distance control issues on partial wedges and pitches
 
#13,859
#13,859
creekerballer said:
I thought the wedges would be the worst part of it but fitters have actually said they produce more spin and stop the ball quicker. The big issue has been people not getting the correct distance gaps between clubs. Especially the long irons.
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I use to make, regrip and reshaft golf clubs as a hobby. It looks to me like Cobra 1 Length irons are all swingweighted to D2.5 which is a bit heavier than most iron sets these days.

All clubs are traditionally lofted, no more or less than usual. All they have done is basically make every iron head the weight and lie angle of a 7 iron, and keep the normal loft splits(3 to 4 degrees between clubs). The length of every iron is 37.25 inches. That was almost 5 iron length when I started 50+ years ago, but 7 iron length now.

Normally, each iron head is made 7 grams heavier as the iron number gets higher, and each iron club is 1/2 inch shorter. Then, when you put a 1/2" shorter shaft in, the swingweight remains the same for all clubs. Also, as each iron gets shorter, the lie angle increases approx. 1/2 degree more upright because you are standing closer with a shorter club.

This set is basically all 7 iron heads with different lofts and numbers( 5 thru wedge), so your setup would remain identical. You would always be swinging a 7 iron. I was taught that the difference distance between clubs (say 10-12 yards) is due 80% to the loft difference and 20% due to shaft length. Since a golfer is standing closer to the ball than normal with his longer irons in this set, he should make better contact , and will hit the ball about the normal distance.

Where I would think there could be a problem would be the 8, 9, and wedge. You could always choke up, but then you would need to stand closer to the ball with a club with a flatter lie than your normal wedge.
 
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#13,860
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1972 Grad said:
I use to make, regrip and reshaft golf clubs as a hobby. It looks to me like Cobra 1 Length irons are all swingweighted to D2.5 which is a bit heavier than most iron sets these days.

All clubs are traditionally lofted, no more or less than usual. All they have done is basically make every iron head the weight and lie angle of a 7 iron, and keep the normal loft splits(3 to 4 degrees between clubs). The length of every iron is 37.25 inches. That was almost 5 iron length when I started 50+ years ago, but 7 iron length now.

Normally, each iron head is made 7 grams heavier as the iron number gets higher, and each iron club is 1/2 inch shorter. Then, when you put a 1/2" shorter shaft in, the swingweight remains the same for all clubs. Also, as each iron gets shorter, the lie angle increases approx. 1/2 degree more upright because you are standing closer with a shorter club.

This set is basically all 7 iron heads with different lofts and numbers( 5 thru wedge), so your setup would remain identical. You would always be swinging a 7 iron. I was taught that the difference distance between clubs (say 10-12 yards) is due 80% to the loft difference and 20% due to shaft length. Since a golfer is standing closer to the ball than normal with his longer irons in this set, he should make better contact , and will hit the ball about the normal distance.

Where I would think there could be a problem would be the 8, 9, and wedge. You could always choke up, but then you would need to stand closer to the ball with a club with a flatter lie than your normal wedge.
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Interesting, would love to find some and try them, but couldn't ever see myself actually going with them.
 
#13,861
#13,861
creekerballer said:
Interesting, would love to find some and try them, but couldn't ever see myself actually going with them.
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The idea has been around for years, but never had much commercial success. Tommy Armour EQL irons were the same concept back in the 80's or early 90's. I think they were all 37 inches long.
 
#13,863
#13,863
Had a good round today. Working with a coach is starting to pay off. Still have some things to work on, but it's getting there.
 
#13,867
#13,867
I rememeber in '11 when I got my irons custom fit, I was fully expecting to go AP1s or AP2s the whole time I was deployed. I hit everything on the shelf when I got back and the APs were the second ones to go back on the shelf besides Callaways.
 
#13,868
#13,868
vol_in_ar said:
a co-worker went to Vegas this week, and his brother is letting him play his set of Cobra single length

His brother has had 'em, about 6 months, and doesn't like them. Says the 8 iron, 9 iron, PW don't fly as far..

I'll find out Friday how Jason likes them
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Yankee_Vol said:
Well I can't get any worse
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creekerballer said:
Interesting, would love to find some and try them, but couldn't ever see myself actually going with them.
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my co worker played 3 rounds with them last week and hated them....8,9 and PW he said he couldn't get any distance control or consistency out of them..said it took almost the full first round to get use to the trajectory (ball flight was alot higher).
 
#13,869
#13,869
vol_in_ar said:
my co worker played 3 rounds with them last week and hated them....8,9 and PW he said he couldn't get any distance control or consistency out of them..said it took almost the full first round to get use to the trajectory (ball flight was alot higher).
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I appreciate the feedback.

I haven't played since we played. I enjoy playing, but I just don't seem to have the time I'd like to dedicate to it at the moment.
 
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#13,871
vol_in_ar said:
I really like playing 9, it goes a lot quicker...so you don't lose most of the day
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At my home course, the 7th green is pretty close to the clubhouse. I like to hit a few balls, go play 7 holes and be back home in under 2 hours.
 
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#13,872
vol_in_ar said:
I really like playing 9, it goes a lot quicker...so you don't lose most of the day
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I usually just try to get out early so I have most of the day left. Tee time yesterday was 8:30 we were done by 12:30 and would of been sooner but we had a group of 6 ahead of us who wouldn't let us play through.
 
#13,873
#13,873
vol_in_ar said:
my co worker played 3 rounds with them last week and hated them....8,9 and PW he said he couldn't get any distance control or consistency out of them..said it took almost the full first round to get use to the trajectory (ball flight was alot higher).
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I can't see any advantage with them, other than the 5 and 6 iron might be slightly easier to hit solidly because they are slightly shorter. By slightly shorter I'm talking 1 inch and 1/2 inch. A lot of folks carry a hybrid instead of a 5 iron anyway. I don't see the point in making the 8,9, and wedge shafts any longer with a lighter than normal head.
 
#13,874
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creekerballer said:
I usually just try to get out early so I have most of the day left. Tee time yesterday was 8:30 we were done by 12:30 and would of been sooner but we had a group of 6 ahead of us who wouldn't let us play through.
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I'd have to call the pro shop if I was being held up by a sixsome. I'm not one of these guys that tries to set a speed record every time I play, but that's ridiculous.
 
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