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I did a whole turkey on the rotisserie last year and it didn’t turn out as I had hoped. Was hoping it would keep the breast more moist while the dark meat got to 170. But it did not. So this year I’m following Julia Child’s recommendation and cooking the dark meat seperate from the breast. The dark meat is on the Kamado now, and when it’s done the breast goes on the spit to rotisserie.
 
My turkey turned out great. Things I learned smoking two turkeys in the last 3 weeks:

It's better to get two small turkeys than one big turkey. You get a more even cook and you can try two different brine/rub combos.

Electric knives do help you keep your skin intact
 
Did a breast only on the Weber with the slow n sear. Didn't smoke so it just had the charcoal flavor. Didn't have the probe deep enough and some wasn't done all the way when I pulled at 165. Just threw it in the skillet for some extra cook time.

Also just did a dry brine since it was supposedly full of some "solution" from the packager.

Will smoke next time and wet brine. It was fine but nothing to brag about.
 
OK gurus. I have a small barrel smoker. My son (17) decided after much thought, he wanted his own smoker with all his bday money. He wanted the option of laying ribs and brisket flat verses the hanger. My barrel will do birds/turkeys,/butts/small briskets flat if you want, but can also hang all of the. He ultimately decided (not sure how much thought that consumed) on a Masterbuilt Adventure series MES 140s electric smoker from Bass Pro. Looks pretty sufficient. I'm not a dedicated stick burner, but I do like my charcoal barrel with the ability to add small chunks of wood. I guess in the end, all smokers are just a variant of a heat source, with varying degrees of smoke control.

Anyone here have any experience with electric smokers, or specifically the MB 140s ??? (My brother-in-law has a Pit Boss electric smoker cabinet model and did a fantastic turkey). My boss also has the 30" MB electric smoker box, and he has had good performance out his and no issues. But, I've read certain models of the MB can be troublesome, but the one he got was not one of those.

He seasoned it Sunday. He's at home loading some ribs in now for the maiden smoke. I hope this model performs well for him and lasts a few years.
 
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OK gurus. I have a small barrel smoker. My son (17) decided after much thought, he wanted his own smoker with all his bday money. He wanted the option of laying ribs and brisket flat verses the hanger. My barrel will do birds/turkeys,/butts/small briskets flat if you want, but can also hang all of the. He ultimately decided (not sure how much thought that consumed) on a Masterbuilt Adventure series MES 140s electric smoker from Bass Pro. Looks pretty sufficient. I'm not a dedicated stick burner, but I do like my charcoal barrel with the ability to add small chunks of wood. I guess in the end, all smokers are just a variant of a heat source, with varying degrees of smoke control.

Anyone here have any experience with electric smokers, or specifically the MB 140s ??? (My brother-in-law has a Pit Boss electric smoker cabinet model and did a fantastic turkey). My boss also has the 30" MB electric smoker box, and he has had good performance out his and no issues. But, I've read certain models of the MB can be troublesome, but the one he got was not one of those.

He seasoned it Sunday. He's at home loading some ribs in now for the maiden smoke. I hope this model performs well for him and lasts a few years.
Congrats to him! Masterbuilt was my first smoker and is a great way to start.

I would recommend getting an A-maze-n pellet tray (or tube) for your smoke. The tube in the smoker is only good (at least mine was) for about 20 minutes of smoke. The tray will go for about 6-8 hours.

5 X 8 Smoker Maze| A-MAZE-N
 
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I believe UDS stands for Ugly Drum Smoker.
You are correct sir. They're usually home built smokers made from 50 gallon drums. They work almost exactly like a pit barrel cooker or barrel house cooker. I've seen some really impressive uds builds. There are even folks that compete with them. They're a great low cost option and make for a fun project, so long as you can source the barrel. Here is an example from the interwebs.

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Congrats to him! Masterbuilt was my first smoker and is a great way to start.

I would recommend getting an A-maze-n pellet tray (or tube) for your smoke. The tube in the smoker is only good (at least mine was) for about 20 minutes of smoke. The tray will go for about 6-8 hours.

5 X 8 Smoker Maze| A-MAZE-N


He made some great ribs on his maiden smoke in HIS smoker. He has been using my Barrel House Smoker, but wanted his own, and one you could lay ribs down, not hang. He defeated me on his first smoke back in the spring on my smoker. I got fired. He has a knack for it on ribs. does outstanding ribs in either smoker.

I saw that A-maze-n pellet tray. Knew the included wouldn't last long. but, we put in the first tray, and only added one and got a perfect smoke flavor using hickory with only two small trays of chips. We shut the vent down to the smallest and maximized the amount of time the smoke stayed in the box, then opened it a tad when the smoke was gone. He forgot to add water to the pan, or didn't know that's what it was for, and still got very moist ribs. My understanding is the liquid tempers the smoke and makes it smoother and milder. I dry smoke in my hanger.

He has a system I'll share. Some may already do this. I recommend trying if you don't do ribs this way just to do something different:

-De-skin of course
-rub with mustard
-coat with season-all
-then dry rub of choice (be careful. using both can get heavy on the spice)
-half a smoke unwrapped. usually 1 1/2 hours or so for 3 racks.
-on foil or paper, add line of brown or cane sugar, liquid butter, and honey. Lay rib rack on. Lay same line on top of rack and wrap. Finish smoke till done.
-Unwrap. Baste in a good sauce of choice. Lightly. and return to smoker for 30 min. I make a really good sauce. recipe may be a few pages up.
-slap your spouse after first bite.

My wife has reactions to chemicals in most pork unless ham or bacon, so he always does beef ribs with pork. His beef ribs are out of sight. Even as good as St. Louis cuts are.
 
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Just threw dinner on the smoker. Trying the Dizzy Dust sample on one of the racks, not enough for two.
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Have you tried Ploughboys Yardbird Rub? One of the highest rated and award winning rubs off the shelf. Awesome stuff, and you can control the heat by how much rub you use. It is also one of our go to rib rubs. sometimes we add a little butterscotch rub to it. I also like a decent dusting of ground nutmeg on pork smokes.

what kind of smoker is that? dry pan just for easy clean up?
 
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Haven't thawed yet, but have a full brisket in freezer we plan on trying on the Masterbuilt this week. Will try to remember to post pics of that venture. Think i'll pull out at lunch and let it start thawing. considering injecting it with Lea and Perrins meat marinade. Has anyone injected a brisket? Advisable?

And since the MB has a water pan, is there better liquids to smoke with, plain water, brine water, cider, OJ, or does it really matter as far as added flavor dimension.
 
Have you tried Ploughboys Yardbird Rub? One of the highest rated and award winning rubs off the shelf. Awesome stuff, and you can control the heat by how much rub you use. It is also one of our go to rib rubs. sometimes we add a little butterscotch rub to it. I also like a decent dusting of ground nutmeg on pork smokes.

what kind of smoker is that? dry pan just for easy clean up?

I usually make my own rub but got this with the Mad Max turkey rub and thought I'd give it a shot. I've heard the Yardbird is good.

It's a Traeger pellet smoker. The foil pan underneath has liquid plus acts as a drip pan. Cleanup couldn't be much easier.
 
Does anyone have a good recipe for smoked cookies? We're having a Christmas cookie party this weekend with several other couples and I thought I would try something different. I've found a few recipes, but if you have something out of this world, let me know!
 
I usually make my own rub but got this with the Mad Max turkey rub and thought I'd give it a shot. I've heard the Yardbird is good.

It's a Traeger pellet smoker. The foil pan underneath has liquid plus acts as a drip pan. Cleanup couldn't be much easier.

Yardbird is very good.

The ribs he smoked in his MB the other day didn't drip bad, but what did went to the unfilled water pan. It has that full tray at bottom that drains to outside cup. I think I will foil it for the brisket smoke and just poke a hole where it needs to be. Don't care to scrub a bunch of drip pans.
 
Does anyone have a good recipe for smoked cookies? We're having a Christmas cookie party this weekend with several other couples and I thought I would try something different. I've found a few recipes, but if you have something out of this world, let me know!

That sounds curious and interesting. I'm thinking alder would be a good mild smoke for cookies. Let us know how that turns out.
 
Have you tried Ploughboys Yardbird Rub? One of the highest rated and award winning rubs off the shelf. Awesome stuff, and you can control the heat by how much rub you use. It is also one of our go to rib rubs. sometimes we add a little butterscotch rub to it. I also like a decent dusting of ground nutmeg on pork smokes.

what kind of smoker is that? dry pan just for easy clean up?
Love Plowboys here in Kansas City. I use this rub and the Bovine Bold all of the time.
 
Merry Christmas volnation. I'm giving you your present a week early so you can plan to make it over the holidays if you want. This is my favorite chicken recipe (I recommend thighs, drumsticks, or whole legs) right now. It's a show-stopper. It's not really my own creation, I kind of just pieced it together from other people's stuff:


Smoked Honey-Chipotle Chicken:

Generic brine for 24 hrs
64 oz water
1/2 cup kosher salt
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/4 lite soy sauce
splash of lemon juice and olive oil

Dry rub
3 TBSP brown sugar
2 TBSP chipotle powder
1 TBSP paprika
1 TBSP dry mustard powder
1 TBSP ground cumin
1 TBSP salt

Then sauce it with Sweet Baby Ray's Honey Chipotle BBQ sauce. I don't like them too sauced, I think these taste best if you start saucing them halfway through the cook and only do each side twice. Stop saucing about half-hour before the cook is done.

They're pretty spicy, so if you don't want that much kick, just do 1 TBSP of Chipotle and use regular honey BBQ sauce.
 

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