The hire Al Golden Thread

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How good of a recruiter is Golden? He walked into a terrible situation at Miami, in terns of recruiting as well, so it may be kind of hard to judge him on that. I think he is a better coach than many on here are giving him credit for.
 
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JFBanicki said:
So, as many have said here, Dooley 2.0!!!
Look if we have to start the excuses before he even coaches a game then I don't want him and recruits won't come for him.
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Calling Dooley 2.0 just is not accurate. His record at Temple shows it. He turned that program from nothing into a winner. Dooley took over Tech a loser and left it a loser. Golden is in a bad spot in Miami. Without NCAA issues, both of his teams there the last 2 years would have went bowling. Something Dooley can not say.
 
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Exiled said:
I agree, but, that's what we did with Dooley as well. Based on Golden's W/L record and the teams he has been with, not sure that he will stand up to the rigors of the SEC. I don't think he will get more than 2 years to show significant improvement though.

Without a unifying coach (Gruden, Stoops), the fanbase will continue to be divided with a large portion just waiting for the first negative to pounce. JMHO.
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That is why no matter who Hart hires, I hope he is willing to give them the same number for assistants as he was Gruden. 4 million bucks to hire the best money can buy. As long as Golden is a solid coach, the coordinators could put us over the top. We are not that far from being a good football team. If we were just decent on defense, we would be an 8-9 win team.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Calling Dooley 2.0 just is not accurate. His record at Temple shows it. He turned that program from nothing into a winner. Dooley took over Tech a loser and left it a loser. Golden is in a bad spot in Miami. Without NCAA issues, both of his teams there the last 2 years would have went bowling. Something Dooley can not say.
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He's a upgrade.. Although minimal.. Upgrading over Dooley isn't very hard though.. If they were to hire Golden i'd say he'd be in about the same boat as Dooley. Win games or you'll feel the wrath pretty fast.. He' wouldn't have any wiggle room here..
 
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Phat-Phil said:
How good of a recruiter is Golden? He walked into a terrible situation at Miami, in terns of recruiting as well, so it may be kind of hard to judge him on that. I think he is a better coach than many on here are giving him credit for.
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I agree. When you have the NCAA about to drop the hammer on you, Miami or not recruiting is going to suffer. I would note that Miami has 10 kids so far in this class and 5 of them are rated 4 stars. He has kids committed from OH, VA, LA, NJ, and of course FL. Goldens recruiting class last year rated #9 in the country.
 
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I think the odds are we get this guy
ironically it would disappoint me but this is the guy I thought they shouldve hired when they instead hire DD
 
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40-45 record as a head coach. Sounds like someone that we should hire to get the fans back on board
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Calling Dooley 2.0 just is not accurate. His record at Temple shows it. He turned that program from nothing into a winner. Dooley took over Tech a loser and left it a loser. Golden is in a bad spot in Miami. Without NCAA issues, both of his teams there the last 2 years would have went bowling. Something Dooley can not say.
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Based on the spot Miami is in, can they afford to let their coach leave? That would be a terrrible signal to recruits as it would look like the program is unravelling in the face of NCAA sanctions
 
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Jeepkuntry said:
I said if Hart hired Smart I was done. I'm hoping he doesn't go after Golden. I feel like we would be hiring another experiment!
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I think you are way the hell off here. He turned around Temple and is doing a great job at Miami. IF your philosophy on this is consistent, then the only non experiment would be Stoops. Dooley, now that was an experiment. More like a China Syndrome kinda thing.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I agree. When you have the NCAA about to drop the hammer on you, Miami or not recruiting is going to suffer. I would note that Miami has 10 kids so far in this class and 5 of them are rated 4 stars. He has kids committed from OH, VA, LA, NJ, and of course FL. Goldens recruiting class last year rated #9 in the country.
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I just don't see why all the negativity on this guy. I mean, who do we expect to get? Gruden? C'mon.
 
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WebbCobb said:
Based on the spot Miami is in, can they afford to let their coach leave? That would be a terrrible signal to recruits as it would look like the program is unravelling in the face of NCAA sanctions
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I think most expect it to unravel when the NCAA rules on things there. When your AD is yanking bowl games without the NCAA telling you to do so, you know it's going to be bad. If Golden left, best thing Miami could do is hire an alum who wants to coach cheap. Get through the NCAA process and go after a great coach after the sanctions. JMO
 
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I think that is who we end up with as well. Dave Hart can go straight to hell if Golden is named the next head coach.
 
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I don't know anything about the guy but that is not a big splash! Dooley was stressful enough to support, I hope we don't go through this crap again!
 
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Would be about as popular a hire as Dooley was.. Cheek should get the bulk of that 18 million back.. Shouldn't need that much to sign Golden.. That is unless Hamilton is brought back to do the contract negotiations..
 
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That is almost like having a dream date and 5 other girls you would like to take out and have to settle for the slump buster!!
 
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I was at the Miami v. Mich State game last night, Golden was there with his entire coaching staff, players and recruits rooting on the Canes basketball team. He didn't look like a guy who's leaving.
 
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