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#76
#76
BaldBiker said:
Hunter, Bray, Patterson and Sentimore.

My guess is at least two, possibly 3 out of the four will regret going into the draft early.
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No they won't. They will all at least make more money over the next 3 years than the average college graduate makes in a lifetime.
 
#77
#77
Him leaving was a poor decision. I wonder if grades played a factor. I honestly see him going undrafted.
 
#78
#78
Vol865 said:
I think it wasn't only grades. I think it was also scheme and playing time. He is 3-4 DE. If you move him to DT we already have Mccullers and couch....the only time he might see the field is if someone gets hurt or in a passing situation and if mccullers gets in a little bit better shape we might not even need him then
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:good!: Still hate we will miss the depth...
 
#80
#80
chattavol420 said:
Sentimore leaving is crazy! This guy didn't play at an elite level. I rarely even noticed him last year. Maybe he knows something we don't like he has a freakish 40 or verticle, but if not, this guy is a moron. Hell he wasn't even the best of the draft eligible d lineman. I'd think scouts would think a lot more of mcullers.

Mods, I think this tread being seperate from the others makes since because sentimore leaving wasn't really expected
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JOKE:eek:lol:
 
#83
#83
Schnutz said:
But,,but,,,Dooley left the program in much, much better shape by recruiting high character guys that would be here for 4 years. Dooley inherited a mess and was just unlucky his wonderful body of work didn't translate to wins. :loco:

Dooley = band-aid therapy.

Apart from a few quirky jokes, he is the worst coach I have ever seen.
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He actually did leave UT in much better shape than what he inherited. We have talent and just need Coach's that know what they are doing. Say what you want about Kiffin and Dooley and some of the problem child kids they had, but those same kids were recruited by other big time schools like UF, GA, LSU, AL, FSU, etc. Its not like we were the only ones offering and UF and UGA have had alot more problem kids than UT. Especially UGA
 
#84
#84
oldsmokey67 said:
Bray,Hunter,and Patterson make sense.Sentimore doesn't.
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Patterson really doesnt, but seems grades are the issue. He is a freak athlete but another yr of becoming a polished route runner and he could easily be a top 5 pic. He is supposedly trying to get his grades right to come back, which makes me believe he really would like to come back.
 
#87
#87
chattavol420 said:
Sentimore leaving is crazy! This guy didn't play at an elite level. I rarely even noticed him last year. Maybe he knows something we don't like he has a freakish 40 or verticle, but if not, this guy is a moron. Hell he wasn't even the best of the draft eligible d lineman. I'd think scouts would think a lot more of mcullers.

Mods, I think this tread being seperate from the others makes since because sentimore leaving wasn't really expected
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Kind of was expected, he was apparently gonna have to have a really good semester in the spring in order to be eligible this fall. He had to retake a bunch of classes that he didn't do well in. Sometimes they leave because they have no choice. Bray didn't really wanna leave either, but felt his stock wouldn't go up anymore with losing two elite WR and a new offense.
 
#88
#88
Jeepkuntry said:
Him leaving was a poor decision. I wonder if grades played a factor. I honestly see him going undrafted.
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It's only a poor decision if there's any reason to think that his stock would skyrocket next year. And there's not. So why not get on with it? If it's all going to come down to what you do at the combine anyway, why spend an extra year going to class and not getting paid?
 
#89
#89
steino said:
Dooley recruited 32 4 stars and 16 are not on the roster. They were either booted, transferred or didn't qualify.

Don't care about the Dooley/Kiffin debate but Dooley didn't do us any favors. Just look at our depth at DL, RB, hell every position except for DBs.
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Next year's 4-8 team should be a wake up call for Doolanders !
 
#90
#90
vols-1 said:
Next year's 4-8 team should be a wake up call for Doolanders !
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We have depth at DB? After watching so many avg QB's have a field day passing against us last year, I'm not sure we have any starters at DB, much less depth.
 
#91
#91
sjt18 said:
Both inherited a pretty bad situation. I would say Kiffin inherited better individual players but had bigger holes with NO ONE to fill them. Two of the OL's he inherited were drafted the next year... but he had to start an undersized Fr and two walk on's too. DD inherited "bodies" for just about every position but they lacked experience, talent, or both.

Jones inherits one of the best if not the best returning OL's in the country. He inherits talented bodies on the DL that have experience if not the best development. He inherits DB's that are talented enough for a good DC to get production from. He inherits a couple of very good LB's... and won't have to start a walk on at the other spot. WR's have no experience but there's talent. He will have 2 RB's that went for over 600 yds and avg'd over 4.5 ypc.

The roster is improved.



I DO NOT hate Fulmer. I appreciate the success that he brought to UT during the 90's. But for many reasons that have been beaten to death here, he presided over a decline of the program that directly caused what we see now. He was either unable or unwilling to do what needed to be done to avoid it. For whatever reason, he just flat out stopped getting quality DL's and OL's. That was a big part of the drop off.

I truly miss and appreciate those great days he had in his prime... but by the time he left it was past time for him to leave.
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You're an idiot. You're clearly one of the anti-Fulmer morons, and even with the last 5 years of history to reveal the absolute foolishness of your position, you still refuse to yield.

Our fanbase is comprised of ****tards. Perhaps we deserve to be third tier forever.
 
#92
#92
SpiritOfNeyland said:
You're an idiot. You're clearly one of the anti-Fulmer morons, and even with the last 5 years of history to reveal the absolute foolishness of your position, you still refuse to yield.

Our fanbase is comprised of ****tards. Perhaps we deserve to be third tier forever.
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What did he say that wasn't the truth? Yes, Coach Fulmer did stop getting quality linemen in in his last couple of years which in fact was one of the starts of the demise. Wake up and realize the truth man.
 
#93
#93
Bluetic said:
:good!: Still hate we will miss the depth...
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True but I don't think he is irreplaceable by any means....bray and Patterson are the biggest losses in my opinion....we could've used sentimore but not sweating it and I was completely indifferent to whether hunter stayed or went
 
#94
#94
SpiritOfNeyland said:
You're an idiot. You're clearly one of the anti-Fulmer morons, and even with the last 5 years of history to reveal the absolute foolishness of your position, you still refuse to yield.

Our fanbase is comprised of ****tards. Perhaps we deserve to be third tier forever.
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Ok.... Name all the standout linemen in the 2007 and 2008 recruiting classes. I don't like Fulmer bashing either but some things are pretty obvious.
 
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#95
#95
92volalum said:
Based on some on vn everyone wants n loves to play for bj boy n all the current players r working hard.. I guess that's may not be true.. maybe some players don't believe cincy had the best coaching staff hanging out?????

Who else will leave that we don't expect?

This hurt IMO.. the dl could use him next year.
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92volalum said:
Based on some on vn everyone wants n loves to play for bj boy n all the current players r working hard.. I guess that may not be true.. maybe some players don't believe cincy had the best coaching staff hanging out?????

Who else will leave that we don't expect?

This hurt IMO.. the dl could use him next year.
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Important enough to say twice? You be the judge...
 
#96
#96
Ttucke11 said:
Not really. Hunter(as much as his drops pissed me off) had a 1,000 yard season in the SEC and has had a major injury already, and will likely be taken in the 1st or 2nd round. Great money for him and his kid. CP will be taken in the 1st(if you disagree go check out a mock), because his talent is unbelievable. Look at some WRs taken in the 1st round the past few years, CP will be a star. Bray would have to learn a whole new system that won't really fit him which could make his stock slide even more. He won't go past the 4th and will be groomed accordingly. Best decision for those 3. Sentimore was going to be ineligible.
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Agree about Patterson. He was not one of the 3 I was talking about. I wish he wasn't, but he can easily go. Disagree overall. The coaches have repeatedly stated that they will craft the system to the success of the players in it. So, they would have run something that Bray could have thrived in. So, I still say mistake. Sentimore...more time. But, don't know about his grades, so not gonna argue that one, but the point is, he's not really ready. Hunter if had a better year next year & better route runner & hands would go high 1st rd. Will not go in 1st rd this year.
 
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