The Hunter Biden Thread

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85SugarVol said:
He was about to stand up in court in and say “yes, I’m guilty”.

Now he stands up in court and says “no, I’m not guilty”.

How do you mount a defense after that? Honest question.
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You can’t, not a viable one anyway. But sometimes you don’t need to. I’m betting this will be one of those times.
 
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lawgator1 said:
My staff and I have been communicating with federal judicial clerks for decades and I can tell you that I would absolutely fall out of my chair if this was anything other than a miscommunication or misunderstanding, as the Biden attorneys say. According to news reports the attorney's legal assistant or paralegal called and spoke to one clerk about the filing, to be handed off to another clerk. In that process, the clerk got the impression that the call came from the filer's legal team, which was incorrect. But it is easy to see how that would happen.

The reason I think it is so highly improbable that this assistant intentionally misled the clerk is that it makes no sense. Its not like the filing would disappear forever and no one would realize it. There would have to be an order on it, to strike it for example, which would itself be part of the docket and notice to everyone on the case. It just doesn't get removed without remark.

It literally makes no sense to make such a misrepresentation. None. There would be zero benefit and nothing but downside.

This is the right wing hysteria media jumping at the hint of scandal, without remotely understanding the way the process works.
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Is it hysteria to proclaim that it’s insane that there appears to be 0 investigation into Joe’s involvement despite Hunter directly stating Joe was involved in multiple text messages and numerous whistle blowers saying the same
 
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have his lawyers commented on whether they told him to plea not guilty or was it improve by Hunter?

hard to imagine he'll get the same sweetheart offer again
 
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Septic said:
You have to wonder if the puddinhead will just pardon the crackhead on his way out.
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I’m curious your take here. We have multiple witnesses saying Joe was involved. We have multiple text messages from Hunter saying Joe was involved.

Do you believe there should be an investigation into Joes involvement?
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Didn’t Clinton do something similar on the way out? For a family member I mean?
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  • Roger Clinton, the president's brother, was pardoned for drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade earlier.[citation needed] Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon.[33] He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others.[citation needed] However, no wrongdoing was uncovered.
 
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as part of the original plea - Hunter had to promise to not use drugs anymore (relates to the gun charge). A couple days ago he was at one of his lawyer's places where the lawyer was seen hitting rather large bong.

Guess it doesn't matter now
 
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volinbham said:
have his lawyers commented on whether they told him to plea not guilty or was it improve by Hunter?

hard to imagine he'll get the same sweetheart offer again
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I wonder if there will be a push by both the defense and prosecution for a different judge.

No way the language was so vague just by happenstance.
 
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volinbham said:
as part of the original plea - Hunter had to promise to not use drugs anymore (relates to the gun charge). A couple days ago he was at one of his lawyer's places where the lawyer was seen hitting rather large bong.

Guess it doesn't matter now
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Oh, come on man ...

1-Misunderstanding and context.
2-Irrelevant.
3-Perfectly logical and acceptable.
4-All unconfirmed garbage by the right wing hysteria machine.

I leave anything out LG?
 
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hog88 said:
I wonder if there will be a push by both the defense and prosecution for a different judge.

No way the language was so vague just by happenstance.
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Still, the prosecution has to agree to keep the original plea offer. As of now, Hunter rejected the plea deal. Can't imagine the environment has gotten more favorable for Hunter and most signs indicate it has gotten less favorable. Can't imagine the same deal will be on the table - particularly since the defense has rejected it.

I still want to know how that went down - did Hunter go rogue?
 
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volinbham said:
Still, the prosecution has to agree to keep the original plea offer. As of now, Hunter rejected the plea deal. Can't imagine the environment has gotten more favorable for Hunter and most signs indicate it has gotten less favorable. Can't imagine the same deal will be on the table - particularly since the defense has rejected it.

I still want to know how that went down - did Hunter go rogue?
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The way I understand it is that everything was good until the judge started questioning the language and how verification was going to work. She wouldn't approve the agreed to deal because of the language being so vague. Have to believe that it was purposefully written that way and both teams of lawyers were hoping to slide it past the judge.
 
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hog88 said:
The way I understand it is that everything was good until the judge started questioning the language and how verification was going to work. She wouldn't approve the agreed to deal because of the language being so vague. Have to believe that it was purposefully written that way and both teams of lawyers were hoping to slide it past the judge.
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the first hiccup was the prosecution saying there was an ongoing investigation for a possible FARA issue and the defense freaked out and said no this deal includes all that already. the judge sent them away to talk about it and they came back with the agreement this was just the tax and gun stuff. then she said she'd need some time to review.

then we got the Not Guilty plea.
 
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