The Hunter Biden Thread

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lawgator1 said:
Apparently now there is no deal, according to both the prosecutors and the defense.
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Pretty interesting read. Here's a couple tidbits I thought were interesting.

From the start, the judge seemed highly skeptical of the unusual deal — which offered Hunter Biden broad immunity from prosecution in perpetuity, questioning why it had been filed under a provision that gave her no legal authority to reject it. When she asked Leo Wise, a prosecutor, if there was any precedent for the kind of deal being proposed, he replied, “No, your honor.”
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Federal District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika pointedly asked Leo Wise, a top prosecutor in the case, if the deal meant Hunter Biden would be immune from prosecution for other possible crimes — including violations related to representing foreign governments. Wise said no — and Hunter Biden’s lawyer responded by saying the agreement was “null and void.” ]
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Hunter Biden to Appear in Delaware Federal Court
 
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hog88 said:
Pretty interesting read. Here's a couple tidbits I thought were interesting.





Hunter Biden to Appear in Delaware Federal Court
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Yes, my read is that the defense believed going into it that this deal addressed both the tax and the gun issues but that the prosecution is saying it covered only the tax issues. So now the argument is that there is no meeting of the minds on it.

This is a banner day for Fox and the MAGA resentment class because a) it keeps it in the news and they get to continue to insinuate influence by the WH over the case; b) if they end up including the gun charge in the deal they get to excitedly claim "see? it's all rigged!"; and c) if it doesn't get included then Jim Jordan can lean on the DOJ and get on Fox 24/7 screeching to over-prosecute the gun charge.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, my read is that the defense believed going into it that this deal addressed both the tax and the gun issues but that the prosecution is saying it covered only the tax issues. So now the argument is that there is no meeting of the minds on it.

This is a banner day for Fox and the MAGA resentment class because a) it keeps it in the news and they get to continue to insinuate influence by the WH over the case; b) if they end up including the gun charge in the deal they get to excitedly claim "see? it's all rigged!"; and c) if it doesn't get included then Jim Jordan can lean on the DOJ and get on Fox 24/7 screeching to over-prosecute the gun charge.
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That is not what they believed, htf did you come to that conclusion?

The defense believed that this guilty plea shielded Hunter from all future prosecution due to other crimes discovered during the investigation like working as an unregister foreign agent. They were doing a pre-trial diversion for the gun charge which is crazy.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, my read is that the defense believed going into it that this deal addressed both the tax and the gun issues but that the prosecution is saying it covered only the tax issues. So now the argument is that there is no meeting of the minds on it.

This is a banner day for Fox and the MAGA resentment class because a) it keeps it in the news and they get to continue to insinuate influence by the WH over the case; b) if they end up including the gun charge in the deal they get to excitedly claim "see? it's all rigged!"; and c) if it doesn't get included then Jim Jordan can lean on the DOJ and get on Fox 24/7 screeching to over-prosecute the gun charge.
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“Over-prosecute” a gun charge?

Did you just type that out?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, my read is that the defense believed going into it that this deal addressed both the tax and the gun issues but that the prosecution is saying it covered only the tax issues. So now the argument is that there is no meeting of the minds on it.

This is a banner day for Fox and the MAGA resentment class because a) it keeps it in the news and they get to continue to insinuate influence by the WH over the case; b) if they end up including the gun charge in the deal they get to excitedly claim "see? it's all rigged!"; and c) if it doesn't get included then Jim Jordan can lean on the DOJ and get on Fox 24/7 screeching to over-prosecute the gun charge.
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Your partisan to the core silliness, while completely unsurprising and expected from you is still hard to swallow as normal for a person with any dignity and self respect at all.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, my read is that the defense believed going into it that this deal addressed both the tax and the gun issues but that the prosecution is saying it covered only the tax issues. So now the argument is that there is no meeting of the minds on it.

This is a banner day for Fox and the MAGA resentment class because a) it keeps it in the news and they get to continue to insinuate influence by the WH over the case; b) if they end up including the gun charge in the deal they get to excitedly claim "see? it's all rigged!"; and c) if it doesn't get included then Jim Jordan can lean on the DOJ and get on Fox 24/7 screeching to over-prosecute the gun charge.
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Let's take politics out of this for a moment. The WH may not have directly influenced this case, but you're an idiot if you can't acknowledge who his father is has influenced this case. It absolutely has. Normal Joe Schmo isn't getting this deal. Our legal system absolutely fluctuates based on who you are.
 
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Weezer said:
Let's take politics out of this for a moment. The WH may not have directly influenced this case, but you're an idiot if you can't acknowledge who his father is has influenced this case. It absolutely has. Normal Joe Schmo isn't getting this deal. Our legal system absolutely fluctuates based on who you are.
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The testimony on this has been the exact opposite: that in fact if anything they are over-penalizing him to avoid the appearance of favoritism.
 
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hog88 said:
That is not what they believed, htf did you come to that conclusion?

The defense believed that this guilty plea shielded Hunter from all future prosecution due to other crimes discovered during the investigation like working as an unregister foreign agent. They were doing a pre-trial diversion for the gun charge which is crazy.
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They wanted Hunter immune from prosecution for anything discovered? In perpetuity.

Along with pre-trial diversion on a federal gun charge?

Along with a slap for willful income tax evasion?

Nothing to see here. This is totally normal.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, my read is that the defense believed going into it that this deal addressed both the tax and the gun issues but that the prosecution is saying it covered only the tax issues. So now the argument is that there is no meeting of the minds on it.

This is a banner day for Fox and the MAGA resentment class because a) it keeps it in the news and they get to continue to insinuate influence by the WH over the case; b) if they end up including the gun charge in the deal they get to excitedly claim "see? it's all rigged!"; and c) if it doesn't get included then Jim Jordan can lean on the DOJ and get on Fox 24/7 screeching to over-prosecute the gun charge.
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Because CNN viewers believe in a two tier system?
 
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Majors said:
Because CNN viewers believe in a two tier system?
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Most people believe he's going to get some level of break given who he is. That's wrong. Everyone knows it.

But the vast, vast majority of people who don't watch Fox ALSO think its being overblown by the Fox people so as to unfairly suggest impropriety by Joe Biden. The desperation to make it about him to try to counter all of the God-awful shenanigans of Trumpletstilskin is palpable. Even a bit painful to watch the Fox people pleading with people to believe there is linkage.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Most people believe he's going to get some level of break given who he is. That's wrong. Everyone knows it.

But the vast, vast majority of people who don't watch Fox ALSO think its being overblown by the Fox people so as to unfairly suggest impropriety by Joe Biden. The desperation to make it about him to try to counter all of the God-awful shenanigans of Trumpletstilskin is palpable. Even a bit painful to watch the Fox people pleading with people to believe there is linkage.
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Yea totally crazy to think anything improper is going on behalf of or at the behest of Biden

Sources: Secret Service inserted itself into case of Hunter Biden’s gun

Secret Service got involved in bizarre gun case involving Hunter Biden: report



Secret Service has Hunter Biden gun probe docs it denied having: watchdog
 
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85SugarVol said:
They wanted Hunter immune from prosecution for anything discovered? In perpetuity.

Along with pre-trial diversion on a federal gun charge?

Along with a slap for willful income tax evasion?

Nothing to see here. This is totally normal.
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I'm sure we'd get the same deal in the exact same scenario.
 
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volfanhill said:
Yea totally crazy to think anything improper is going on behalf of or at the behest of Biden

Sources: Secret Service inserted itself into case of Hunter Biden’s gun

Secret Service got involved in bizarre gun case involving Hunter Biden: report



Secret Service has Hunter Biden gun probe docs it denied having: watchdog
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None of that has any credibility and none has been verified other than through the usual right wing echo chamber that relies simply on repetition of the same, tired old reports, to make it appear that it has anything behind it, at all.

This is very much in keeping with the Trump playbook, when asked for evidence of anything, of breathlessly replying with "some people are saying."
 
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lawgator1 said:
None of that has any credibility and none has been verified other than through the usual right wing echo chamber that relies simply on repetition of the same, tired old reports, to make it appear that it has anything behind it, at all.

This is very much in keeping with the Trump playbook, when asked for evidence of anything, of breathlessly replying with "some people are saying."
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So why don't you believe the gun shop owner? It's not "some people" we have a tangible witness with direct knowledge
 
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lawgator1 said:
None of that has any credibility and none has been verified other than through the usual right wing echo chamber that relies simply on repetition of the same, tired old reports, to make it appear that it has anything behind it, at all.

This is very much in keeping with the Trump playbook, when asked for evidence of anything, of breathlessly replying with "some people are saying."
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Raises Hand:

Now do Hunters Laptop
 
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volfanhill said:
So why don't you believe the gun shop owner? It's not "some people" we have a tangible witness with direct knowledge
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He has knowledge of what, EXACTLY?

And in any event, what would that have to do with Joe Biden? Nada. Zilch.

Screeeeeeeccccchhhhh some more. Stomp your feet you can't believe that folks outside of the Fox echo chamber are unconvinced of anything other than your own desperation to deflect impending doom for Trump.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He has knowledge of what, EXACTLY?

And in any event, what would that have to do with Joe Biden? Nada. Zilch.

Screeeeeeeccccchhhhh some more. Stomp your feet you can't believe that folks outside of the Fox echo chamber are unconvinced of anything other than your own desperation to deflect impending doom for Trump.
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Lol. You are a mess. And as usual, with you it's just not worth it.
 
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