The Hunter Biden Thread

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hog88 said:
Care to address the statement of facts in the pre-trial diversion agreement?
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https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000189-9524-dee7-a7ab-fd7d1d600000

Whether his lobbying activity is “encompassed” by the statement of facts is ambiguous.
His failure to register is unambiguously not encompassed.
It says who is paying him.
The judge herself, who would conceivably resolve a dispute over the meaning of it, thought it was ambiguous.
The prosecutor straight faced said it didn’t mean that.
The defense attorney ultimately agreed.
It’s just not safe to rely on that as his lawyer.

This isn’t Paul Pelosi home invasion level ignoring the most realistic scenario, but it kind of gets filed under the same heading.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Funny, the GOP seems forever uninterested in Trump's tax returns but are chomping at the bit to hope to find a foreign bank account for Joe Biden.
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Trump’s tax returns have actually been investigated by the federal government. Joe’s have not despite his son on record saying Joe takes half his salary.

You don’t see a need to investigate that claim?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000189-9524-dee7-a7ab-fd7d1d600000

Whether his lobbying activity is “encompassed” by the statement of facts is ambiguous.
His failure to register is unambiguously not encompassed.
It says who is paying him.
The judge herself, who would conceivably resolve a dispute over the meaning of it, thought it was ambiguous.
The prosecutor straight faced said it didn’t mean that.
The defense attorney ultimately agreed.
It’s just not safe to rely on that as his lawyer.

This isn’t Paul Pelosi home invasion level ignoring the most realistic scenario, but it kind of gets filed under the same heading.
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It sounds to me like people believing the federal govt is working to protect Biden are suggesting they, the prosecution and defense, were hiding their intent in the "ambiguous" parts and hoped the judge would not press them on details. If pressed about fara violations publicly the prosecution did not want to admit they would be included.

I'm not a laywer so I don't know for sure. It looks suspicious to me, but I'd also have a hard time believing both sides could come to a plea agreement and not understand for over a month what was being agreed to. It was only discovered upon questioning by the judge. (if there really was no immunity shenanigans going on as has been suggested). It looks suspicious to those people that critical portions of the agreement were on a separate document separate from her purview.

From the earlier posted article:

Prosecutors included details about Hunter Biden's foreign business endeavors into the plea deal on the misdemeanor tax charges, but wrote the immunity standards into the diversion agreement -- the much-cited Paragraph 15 -- which would include "any federal crimes encompassed" in the statement of facts for the plea agreement.

Lucian Dervan, a law professor at Belmont University, said the judge seemed concerned that the decision to handle immunity in the diversion program rather than in the plea agreement "might have removed that issue from her purview."

In most venues, judges don't typically weigh in on diversion agreements, Dervan explained -- those arrangements are typically treated as a private contract between prosecutors and defendants, depriving judges from scrutinizing them in detail.

"The judge didn't seem to like that," Dervan told ABC News.

Will Scharf, a former federal prosecutor, framed it as an attempt to "hide the ball" from the judge. "[Prosecutors] put the facts in the plea agreement, but put their non-prosecution agreement in the pretrial diversion agreement, effectively hiding the full scope of what DOJ was offering and Hunter was obtaining through these proceedings
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New details emerge in Hunter Biden plea agreement

My question, if the plea agreement had gone through and a year from now the DOJ wanted to charge Hunter with FARA violations, how many hurdles would they have to jump through to get that done when Hunter's attorney's would claim he was immune from any charges regarding his dealings with Ukraine/China.

- adding these just so I or anyone else doesn't have to go back and look up the plea documents

https://www.politico.com/mwg-intern...CIgJcPGCjfDutOZyMrRx3qm9r0AxtO0EnQd7olKk4,&dl
https://www.politico.com/mwg-intern...fs8gDd8EDCnVBJSaHKU0PQBaXdbUw4qq4h9sVkKdc,&dl
 
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Hunter Biden Remains a ‘Good Standing’ D.C. Bar Member

Hunter Biden remains a “good standing” member of the D.C. Bar’s association, despite evidence of illicit activities and court proceedings, according to the bar’s website.

During Wednesday’s court proceedings, Hunter Biden told the judge he was licensed to practice law in Washington, DC, and Connecticut.

In February, the D.C. Bar told Breitbart News that Hunter is “not a member of the D.C. Bar.”

The bar’s statement was consistent with the Associated Press’s reporting from 2014 in which it claimed the “Current District of Columbia bar records do not show Biden as member.” However, Hunter’s D.C. Bar license says he was admitted in 2007.

Breitbart News followed up by sending a screenshot of the search query of the D.C. Bar’s website that listed Hunter as a member. The D.C. Bar’s Office of Disciplinary Counsel replied they had searched their records in error and that Hunter was indeed a member of the D.C. Bar.

Hunter Biden Remains a 'Good Standing' D.C. Bar Member
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The parts I'm guessing that are causing the controversy. That paragraph 15 immediately below includes everything in Exhibit 1. Only upon questioning by the judge did each side reveal their belief as to what was included in the plea agreement. (prosecution of FARA violations)

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