The Hunter Biden Thread

[hUTch2002]

Yeah, no one on the left gets any high ground when it comes to claiming there’s evidence of something when there’s not. See Trump Russia.

 

[Vol8188]

Whistle blower: Weis was denied special council status

Garland: no he wasn’t denied, he never asked for it!

Everyone else understands what happened here right? Garland denied him, until it was made public that he denied him

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Hunter Biden Lawyer Moves to Withdraw as Counsel, and Sets Up a Showdown With the DOJ

In a surprising move, Christopher J. Clark, one of Hunter Biden's lawyers, has moved to withdraw as counsel for Hunter Biden.

That filing came on Tuesday morning, and it points to what's coming next after the sweetheart plea deal originally agreed to fell apart under questioning but Judge Maryellen Noreika.


Here's the key line that points to the coming legal strategy by Hunter Biden's remaining lawyers.

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His understanding of the scope of the immunity agreed to by the United States is also corroborated by prosecutors' contemporaneous notes and oral communications during plea negotiations.​

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In other words, the assertion is that the DOJ told Hunter Biden's team during plea negotiations that he would receive broad immunity and that both sides agreed with that understanding. As Judge Noreika later discovered, the arrangement existed within the diversion agreement for the gun charge the president's son was facing. After she then pressed the issue, asking for any precedent for putting immunity in a diversion agreement, the entire deal fell apart.

Hunter Biden Lawyer Moves to Withdraw as Counsel, and Sets Up a Showdown With the DOJ

 

[rekinhavoc]

Five stories Joe Biden told about the family business that turned out to be untrue

There are five claims the president and his defenders have made that now conflict with current evidence:

1. Joe Biden never discussed business with his son or family.
2. Joe Biden never met with his son's business partners.
3. The Biden family did not get money from China.
4. Hunter Biden "has done nothing wrong."
5. The Hunter Biden laptop that emerged late in the 2020 election was Russian disinformation.

 

[jmacvols1]

@amuse
@amuse
BREAKING: President Biden used a pseudonym, Robert L. Peters, when emailing his son’s business associates including using it to schedule secret calls with the president of Ukraine. The use of the name prevented discovery of the messages under FOIA.
@RepJamesComer
is demanding NARA Provide Records Pertaining Biden’s fake email address: “Robert L. Peters”.
h/t
@WendellHusebo

Comer demands records of Biden using pseudonym while VP

 

[jmacvols1]

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: Rep. James Comer has uncovered a pseudonym that Joe Biden used as vice president that was applied in an email with his son Hunter Biden.

Time for another Trump indictment?

Comer recently revealed Biden's pseudonym, Robert L. Peters, which was used in an email with Hunter Biden copied in it. Biden's pseudo email was Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov.

The House Oversight Committee led by Comer is requesting documents from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), specifically records that "overlapped" with Hunter Biden's business activities in Ukraine.

“Joe Biden has stated there was ‘an absolute wall’ between his family’s foreign business schemes and his duties as vice president, but evidence reveals that access was wide open for his family’s influence peddling…"

"We already have evidence of then-Vice President Biden speaking, dining, and having coffee with his son’s foreign business associates… We also know that Hunter Biden and his associates were informed of then-Vice President Biden’s official government duties in countries where they had a financial interest. The National Archives must provide these unredacted records to further our investigation into the Biden family’s corruption.”

 

[jmacvols1]

Now we are seeing why Garland announced the special counsel...

Miranda Devine
@mirandadevine
James Comer is relentless. The House Oversight Committee chairman is asking NARA to provide Joe Biden’s records from his VP days that “overlapped with his son’s activities in Ukraine”. He wants all unredacted communications in which Joe used a pseudonym; Hunter Biden, Eric Schwerin, or Devon Archer is copied; and all drafts of then-VP Biden’s speech to the Ukrainian parliament in December 2015.
Biden “mixed official government duties with family’s influence peddling.” Comer was about to go to court to get all Joe and Hunter’s personal bank records when AG Garland pulled the Special Counsel trick. He’s still going.

 

[Orangeburst]

i hope Joe wins so his ass is impeached by a Republican Senate. Remember all that talk about Trump pardoning himself for crimes not yet prosecuted? Surely Joe wouldn’t.

Then we have utter dimwit radical Harris on full display to the world. It will be glorious failure

 

[Franklin Pierce]

CIA SUED for Working With the Biden Campaign to Produce 'Dirty 51' Intel Letter calling Hunter's Laptop disinformation

The CIA has been sued for its role in helping to craft a letter from 51 intelligence officials discrediting Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation.

The letter that was signed by 51 intel officials in 2020 immediately before the presidential election falsely claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop had all the 'classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.'

A Republican report released in May showed that the CIA was actively involved in getting signatures for the letter which 'was a political operation to help elect' Joe Biden in November 2020.

Government watchdog group Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit Thursday after it failed to receive requested documents from the agency regarding the internal crafting of the letter.

CIA SUED for working with the Biden campaign to produce 'Dirty 51' intel letter calling Hunter's laptop disinformation | Daily Mail Online

 

[DC_Vol]

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-robert-peters-pseudonym-under-scrutiny-gop-probes-emails-1820709

@BowlBrother85 - I want to engage in a conversation with you since i know how passionate you are about the dangers of foreign influence in our government.

We know Joe Biden’s story of his involvement with his son’s sketchy business entanglements with the likes of China, Russia, and Ukraine. He can now be placed on the phone with them and in person with many of them. Clearly he has not been forthright about his involvement.

Let’s assume for now this email pseudonym is not legit. If we later find out that Joe Biden has indeed been communicating with the family’s business partners using an email account under a different name, can i get a commitment for you to start the impeachment thread? You are by far the best choice to do this. Please consider and let me know.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[Vol8188]

I don’t think that means what you think it means.

 

[BowlBrother85]

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-robert-peters-pseudonym-under-scrutiny-gop-probes-emails-1820709

@BowlBrother85 - I want to engage in a conversation with you since i know how passionate you are about the dangers of foreign influence in our government.

We know Joe Biden’s story of his involvement with his son’s sketchy business entanglements with the likes of China, Russia, and Ukraine. He can now be placed on the phone with them and in person with many of them. Clearly he has not been forthright about his involvement.

Let’s assume for now this email pseudonym is not legit. If we later find out that Joe Biden has indeed been communicating with the family’s business partners using an email account under a different name, can i get a commitment for you to start the impeachment thread? You are by far the best choice to do this. Please consider and let me know.

Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Perhaps, but what is the underlying crime? Did Joe Biden lie under oath about this? I don't believe that having clandestine communication with Hunter's business associates, and lying about it, would necessarily be a criminal offense ... unless, of course, he has done so under oath. If not, then we would need to know more about what the purpose of the activity surrounding this communication involved.

 

[Vol8188]

Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Perhaps, but what is the underlying crime? Did Joe Biden lie under oath about this? I don't believe that having clandestine communication with Hunter's business associates, and lying about it, would necessarily be a criminal offense ... unless, of course, he has done so under oath. If not, then we would need to know more about what the purpose of the activity surrounding this communication involved.

So we know Hunter Biden was paid based on “influence”. The entire Joe Biden defense is that the influence was only perceived and not real. But if Joe was using a fake email to message Hunter’s business associates, the influence is no longer just “perceived” and you’ve now tied Joe to Hunter’s crimes (which Hunter’s text messages also tie Joe to)

 

[C-south]

Very true but we still have people who think Trump isn’t corrupt.
To be fair the witch hunt, and baseless accusations against Trump help give his followers fuel to run there claiming it’s all manufactured and he’s not guilty of anything, but like always when dealing with the tribes, the truth is somewhere in the middle

Who isn’t corrupt? Who is the person/people you want in these positions?

 

[Vol8188]

Who isn’t corrupt? Who is the person/people you want in these positions?

We could start with someone who is mentally stable.

 

[Orangeburst]

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-robert-peters-pseudonym-under-scrutiny-gop-probes-emails-1820709

@BowlBrother85 - I want to engage in a conversation with you since i know how passionate you are about the dangers of foreign influence in our government.

We know Joe Biden’s story of his involvement with his son’s sketchy business entanglements with the likes of China, Russia, and Ukraine. He can now be placed on the phone with them and in person with many of them. Clearly he has not been forthright about his involvement.

Let’s assume for now this email pseudonym is not legit. If we later find out that Joe Biden has indeed been communicating with the family’s business partners using an email account under a different name, can i get a commitment for you to start the impeachment thread? You are by far the best choice to do this. Please consider and let me know.

let him finish up his binder ring research and he can respond

 

[BowlBrother85]

So we know Hunter Biden was paid based on “influence”. The entire Joe Biden defense is that the influence was only perceived and not real. But if Joe was using a fake email to message Hunter’s business associates, the influence is no longer just “perceived” and you’ve now tied Joe to Hunter’s crimes (which Hunter’s text messages also tie Joe to)

Eh ... That's not very strong.

More information would need to be known concerning the content of the emails, in order to tie Joe Biden to crimes committed by his son.

 

[Vol8188]

Eh ... That's not very strong.

More information would need to be known concerning the content of the emails, in order to tie Joe Biden to crimes committed by his son.

His son was selling access to Joe.
Joe’s defense is that it was “perceived” access.
Yet he also sets up a fake email to provide access?

How exactly do you defend that?

 

[BowlBrother85]

His son was selling access to Joe.
Joe’s defense is that it was “perceived” access.
Yet he also sets up a fake email to provide access?

How exactly do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything. In order to prove that Joe Biden committed a crime, more will need to be known about what was said in those emails. It's definitely possible that crimes were committed. More information is needed.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm not defending anything. In order to prove that Joe Biden committed a crime, more will need to be known about what was said in those emails. It's definitely possible that crimes were committed. More information is needed.

Lmao. So if the emails are just repeatedly him and people who have sent Hunter money saying “call me” you’re going to pretend nothing happened?

Even though they sent Hunter millions and even though Hunter and Joe have joint bank accounts?

 

[C-south]

We could start with someone who is mentally stable.

I’m just genuinely curious. I see a lot of people talk about “tribes” and “cults” but I don’t see anyone suggesting realistic alternatives.

 

[Vol8188]

I’m just genuinely curious. I see a lot of people talk about “tribes” and “cults” but I don’t see anyone suggesting realistic alternatives.

To Trump? DeSantis, Scott, Pence are all far more mentally stable than Donald Trump. All seem far more conservative than Trump too. None of them are currently under indictment. All have a better chance of actually winning which should be the goal because they don’t immediately repulse 60% of the country

 

[BowlBrother85]

Lmao. So if the emails are just repeatedly him and people who have sent Hunter money saying “call me” you’re going to pretend nothing happened?

Even though they sent Hunter millions and even though Hunter and Joe have joint bank accounts?

You are engaging in what I would describe as being "reasonable speculation," ... but even reasonable speculation, is still just speculation.

As I said, it is possible that Joe Biden was involved in criminal activity, but to prove that, more will need to be known about the content of those emails. Joe Biden could have been delivering on his son's efforts to sell influence, but in order to establish that, we will need to know what was discussed. Search warrants for those emails should be obtained.

If you disagree with my take? That's fine. I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding someone else to agree with your position here. If validation of your opinion is all you are looking for, instead of actual debate, then you should talk to those people instead of me.

 

[Vol8188]

You are engaging in what I would describe as being "reasonable speculation," ... but even reasonable speculation, is still just speculation.

As I said, it is possible that Joe Biden was involved in criminal activity, but to prove that, more will need to be known about the content of those emails. Joe Biden could have been delivering on his son's efforts to sell influence, but in order to establish that, we will need to know what was discussed. Search warrants for those emails should be obtained.

If you disagree with my take? That's fine. I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding someone else to agree with your position here. If validation of your opinion is all you are looking for, instead of actual debate, then you should talk to those people instead of me.

That’s the beauty of a Rico case. You don’t actually have to have Biden on record saying “I’ll do x if you send my son money”.