The Impeachment Thread

[Velo Vol]

A civil war like fracture? Wonder which side will be angling for slavery.....

When you boil it down, the only thing the whole rah rah MAGA thing really stands for is . . . Trump. That's the only "principle" at stake.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Bombshell
The walls are closing in
If true

Did I miss any DNC media phrases?

Breaking news.... Ad naseum

 

[utvolpj]

When you boil it down, the only thing the whole rah rah MAGA thing really stands for is . . . Trump. That's the only "principle" at stake.

Anyone taking up arms to defend that clown deserves what they get. Trump is all about Trump. That's it and there really is no substance

I'll be fine where I live (I'm from TN and can blend in) though so you guys go on and have your little war

 

[Velo Vol]

Besides unverified, second-hand accusations and massive conjecture, exactly what "behavior" has been brought to light? Or did you mean Schiff fabricating a fictitious conversation as a soundbite?

That he's using the powers of the presidency to go after the opposition party

 

[Rifleman]

The angry ramblings of a helpless, frustrated man. Sad.

Poor guy hit FULL CAPS!!! before 9 AM today.

That no one near him has taken his phone this morning and put it in a hydraulic press serves as the best example of what everyone close to him actually thinks of him. They are happy to sit and watch him knee cap his own presidency.

What a sad, lonely, unloved, amoral sack a deep fryer skimmings our poor, poor POTUS is.

 

[AirVol]

A civil war like fracture? Wonder which side will be angling for slavery.....

Dims of course. Their slaves still vote for them.

 

[carlos86]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Whistleblower's Attorney Blasts '60 Minutes' For 'Literally Making Stuff Up'

 

[Orange_Crush]

That he's using the powers of the presidency to go after the opposition party

If the opposition party are corrupt, it's his job to use the powers of the presidency to go after them. I don't see you wetting yourself that the Senate Dems are using the power of the senate to go after him.

It's unsettling to see people who are such party boot-lickers that they want to make it illegal to investigate corruption in their party.

But again, besides second-hand, unverified accusations and fictional senate propaganda, what behavior?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Besides unverified, second-hand accusations and massive conjecture, exactly what "behavior" has been brought to light? Or did you mean Schiff fabricating a fictitious conversation as a soundbite?

Unverified? The transcript of the July 25th phone call shows Trump soliciting Zelensky for assistance with investigating the Bidens. That is exactly what the whistleblower said it would show in the complaint.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Orange_Crush]

Unverified? The transcript of the July 25th phone call shows Trump soliciting Zelensky for assistance with investigating the Bidens. That is exactly what the whistleblower said it would show in the complaint.

So?

And the whistleblower claimed that Trump was threatening them, which the transcript doesn't show.

But again... What if Trump encouraged them to investigate? Running for President doesn't make you immune to being investigated. And being political rivals doesn't abstain Trump from being the head of the DoJ with a sworn oath to see crimes investigated and laws enforced.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So?

And the whistleblower claimed that Trump was threatening them, which the transcript doesn't show.

But again... What if Trump encouraged them to investigate? Running for President doesn't make you immune to being investigated. And being political rivals doesn't abstain Trump from being the head of the DoJ with a sworn oath to see crimes investigated and laws enforced.

Trump is guilty of an abuse of power and a very clear conflict of interest. He withheld military aid from the Ukraine days before this phone call and then during the call said, "I would like you to do us a favor though..." and then proceeded to enlist Zelensky's help with digging up dirt on a potential opponent.

And where in the whistleblower complaint does he say that Trump was threatening them? Threatening who? What are you talking about?

 

[evillawyer]

So?

And the whistleblower claimed that Trump was threatening them, which the transcript doesn't show.

But again... What if Trump encouraged them to investigate? Running for President doesn't make you immune to being investigated. And being political rivals doesn't abstain Trump from being the head of the DoJ with a sworn oath to see crimes investigated and laws enforced.

"Federal law prohibits a foreign national from directly or indirectly making a “contribution or donation of money or other thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, and prohibits a person from soliciting, accepting or receiving such a contribution or donation from a foreign national. Federal law defines “contribution” to include “any gift … of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office.” And the FEC by regulation defines “solicit” to mean “to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value.”

From https://www.justsecurity.org/66277/the-quid-is-a-crime-no-need-to-prove-pro-quo-in-ukrainegate/

 

[NorthDallas40]

Why do you think Schiff had the complaint prior to September 23 or whatever?

Prior to the August 12 filing date. And I think that because this CIA person fits the type on the yearly training we get to identify subversive people. No I’m not labeling him a spy. I’m saying the attributes are similar. The person has expressed political animus that’s a given. Based on what he does for a living I’m gonna guess he/she fits the mold on believing rules don’t apply to them either. That’s two check marks. So they act outside the lines and get the complaint info to Schitt. Now the cogs are conveniently turning to get the complaint formally logged and into the public screech fest?

 

[volfanjustin]

Trump is guilty of an abuse of power and a very clear conflict of interest. He withheld military aid from the Ukraine days before this phone call and then during the call said, "I would like you to do us a favor though..." and then proceeded to enlist Zelensky's help with digging up dirt on a potential opponent.

And where in the whistleblower complaint does he say that Trump was threatening them? Threatening who? What are you talking about?

LOL

 

[evillawyer]

LMAO

 

[Orange_Crush]

Trump is guilty of an abuse of power and a very clear conflict of interest. He withheld military aid from the Ukraine days before this phone call and then during the call said, "I would like you to do us a favor though..." and then proceeded to enlist Zelensky's help with digging up dirt on a potential opponent.

And where in the whistleblower complaint does he say that Trump was threatening them? Threatening who? What are you talking about?

Trump is guilty of investigating your guy. Period.

He withheld military aid well before the call, never mentioned the aid in the call, and the Ukraine didn't know the aid had been withheld until over a month after the call.

Look it up.

So, again... Besides undocumented, second-hand testimony, Schiff's fictitious Senate propaganda-planting, and your pearl-clutching... What behavior?

 

[RockyTop85]

Prior to the August 12 filing date. And I think that because this CIA person fits the type on the yearly training we get to identify subversive people. No I’m not labeling him a spy. I’m saying the attributes are similar. The person has expressed political animus that’s a given. Based on what he does for a living I’m gonna guess he/she fits the mold on believing rules don’t apply to them either. That’s two check marks. So they act outside the lines and get the complaint info to Schitt. Now the cogs are conveniently turning to get the complaint formally logged and into the public screech fest?

When did he/she express political animus?

 

[Orange_Crush]

"Federal law prohibits a foreign national from directly or indirectly making a “contribution or donation of money or other thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, and prohibits a person from soliciting, accepting or receiving such a contribution or donation from a foreign national. Federal law defines “contribution” to include “any gift … of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office.” And the FEC by regulation defines “solicit” to mean “to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value.”

From https://www.justsecurity.org/66277/the-quid-is-a-crime-no-need-to-prove-pro-quo-in-ukrainegate/

You're going to dislocate every joint in your body if you're not careful. Trump is the head of the DoJ and sworn to uphold the laws of the land. Running for President doesn't make Biden immune from investigation. You just love the Democratic party more than you love your country.

 

[evillawyer]

A little comic relief

 

[NorthDallas40]

When did he/she express political animus?

That was a portion of the ICIG report.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Trump is guilty of investigating your guy. Period.

He withheld military aid well before the call, never mentioned the aid in the call, and the Ukraine didn't know the aid had been withheld until over a month after the call.

Look it up.

So, again... Besides undocumented, second-hand testimony, Schiff's fictitious Senate propaganda-planting, and your pearl-clutching... What behavior?

That is not true. The military aid was withheld just a few days before the call even though it had already been approved by Congress. It was discussed during the call. Zelensky specifically mentions the Javelins. That is when Trump goes into the "I would like you to do us a favor though..." spill.

 

[ajvol01]

That classification was made after people that were listening to the call realized what Trump had done. It was a bogus classification, concocted to hide the politically damaging fact that Trump was extorting information and cooperation from a foreign leader. Nice try though.

Lol

 

[BowlBrother85]

That was a portion of the ICIG report.

You are leaving out a key word of what was said, however. The ICIG report described "some indica of an arguable political bias on the part of the Complainant in favor of a rival political candidate." The key word being "arguable".