The Impeachment Thread

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BowlBrother85 said:
The polls also had Bill Clinton winning in 1992 and 1996, George W. Bush winning in 2000 and 2004 and Barack Obama winning in 2008 and 2012 right up until election day. You can disparage them all you want over 2016 but they are right much more frequently than they are wrong. We all know that Trump would be tweeting out these poll results on a daily basis, if they showed him winning. It's not the polls that you have a problem with, it's what the polls are showing that bothers you.
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Those stats are real, and it’s a valid point. But I have come to believe that Trump truly is an anomaly (in more ways than one) with regards to polling.

It was clear in the aftermath of 2016 that there were entire swaths of silent Trump voters that were going undetected by the polling methods. For multiple reasons, probably.

Could the polling science have evolved and adapted, and be accurately picking up what was invisible to the methods the last time around? Sure, that’s possible.

But the opposite could be true as well. That being there are large numbers of Trump voters that are being missed, or that simply do not wish to be identified.

We won’t know until we get to the election. If we get to the election.
 
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Mick said:
If they didn't have any evidence of a crime they better make it. Imagine in the 8 times Trump tried to coerce him he said, "You better find it".
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There has to be overwhelming proof. The spineless GOP senators need it to cover their own asses. Unless that is produced, then it won't matter, and nothing will happen.
 
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RavinDave said:
Nobody wants this story to go away more than Joe Biden.
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@1972 Grad is correct. Biden’s dirty dealings in the Ukraine is what will sink him.

Not his obvious racism while running for the nomination of the party who cares about minorities.

Not his penchant for inappropriate touching of minors.

And not his quickly deteriorating mental state.

It’s going to be his threat to pull $1B in funding to the Ukraine government if they refused to fire a prosecutor...who coincidentally was investigating his son’s company.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Those stats are real, and it’s a valid point. But I have come to believe that Trump truly is an anomaly (in more ways than one) with regards to polling.

It was clear in the aftermath of 2016 that there were entire swaths of silent Trump voters that were going undetected by the polling methods. For multiple reasons, probably.

Could the polling science have evolved and adapted, and be accurately picking up what was invisible to the methods the last time around? Sure, that’s possible.

But the opposite could be true as well. That being there are large numbers of Trump voters that are being missed, or that simply do not wish to be identified.

We won’t know until we get to the election. If we get to the election.
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This has been brought up a lot, but the polling was spot on. The issue was how each state played out and thus the result in the electoral college. The national, popular vote polls were dead on the money. The difference, and what that matters in the end, is the electoral college.
 
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DC_Vol said:
@1972 Grad is correct. Biden’s dirty dealings in the Ukraine is what will sink him.

Not his obvious racism while running for the nomination of the party who cares about minorities.

Not his penchant for inappropriate touching of minors.

And not his quickly deteriorating mental state.

It’s going to be his threat to pull $1B in funding to the Ukraine government if they refused to fire a prosecutor...who coincidentally was investigating his son’s company.
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But he did stand down Corn Pop. Still got that going for him.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
There has to be overwhelming proof. The spineless GOP senators need it to cover their own asses. Unless that is produced, then it won't matter, and nothing will happen.
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Lol y’all just ain’t used to that boomerang smacking you in the forehead. I’m smelling another Trump set up to suck in the weak minded to open up the real door.

It’s epically hilarious each and every time he owns y’all.

The crimes are Biden holding a Billion in loans unless the Uke prez fires the investigator into his son, and Biden flying the disgraced coke head to China on AF2 to China for a billion dolllare deal.

Please do tell us Hunter’s qualifications for the BoDs with which he’s got a seat? What do those Chicom companies do that Biden’s coke head son, who sticks it to his dead brothers wife and has zero experience in, do? Do they steal American tech data?

Once again Trumps brilliance in bringing light shines like the sun ☀️
 
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85SugarVol said:
It was clear in the aftermath of 2016 that there were entire swaths of silent Trump voters that were going undetected by the polling methods. For multiple reasons, probably.
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Not really. The actual results were within the margin of error of the pre-election polling.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
Lol y’all just ain’t used to that boomerang smacking you in the forehead. I’m smelling another Trump set up to suck in the weak minded to open up the real door.

It’s epically hilarious each and every time he owns y’all.

The crimes are Biden holding a Billion in loans unless the Uke prez fires the investigator into his son, and Biden flying the disgraced coke head to China on AF2 to China for a billion dolllare deal.

Please do tell us Hunter’s qualifications for the BoDs with which he’s got a seat? What do those Chicom companies do that Biden’s coke head son, who sticks it to his dead brothers wife and has zero experience in, do? Do they steal American tech data?

Once again Trumps brilliance in bringing light shines like the sun ☀️
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Looks like an American president bribed a foreign leader with tax-payer money to give him info on a political opponent. Seems pretty cut and dry to me as treason, but I'm sure it is fine with most on the board. Very cool. Very legal. Everyone is saying how very cool and legal it is. Believe me.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Looks like an American president bribed a foreign leader with tax-payer money to give him info on a political opponent. Seems pretty cut and dry to me as treason, but I'm sure it is fine with most on the board. Very cool. Very legal. Everyone is saying how very cool and legal it is. Believe me.
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Lol cut and dry. What’s your evidence counselor? You should be happy as Biden is taken down for his corruption...one step closer to the crown for the mayor.

I can’t figure out yet if Trump is setting up Lieawathea or Pete yet as the competition.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
Lol cut and dry. What’s your evidence counselor? You should be happy as Biden is taken down for his corruption...one step closer to the crown for the mayor.

I can’t figure out yet if Trump is setting up Lieawathea or Pete yet as the competition.
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Biden will not be the nominee, and it isn't because of some stuff Trump tried to illegally obtain.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Those stats are real, and it’s a valid point. But I have come to believe that Trump truly is an anomaly (in more ways than one) with regards to polling.

It was clear in the aftermath of 2016 that there were entire swaths of silent Trump voters that were going undetected by the polling methods. For multiple reasons, probably.

Could the polling science have evolved and adapted, and be accurately picking up what was invisible to the methods the last time around? Sure, that’s possible.

But the opposite could be true as well. That being there are large numbers of Trump voters that are being missed, or that simply do not wish to be identified.

We won’t know until we get to the election. If we get to the election.
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Trump outperformed the polls in some key battleground states. It is very possible that this is the "hidden voter" factor. Meaning, that some people voted for Trump, who didn't like him and didn't want to admit to pollsters that they were voting for him. However, I think that mostly involved voters who viewed the 2016 Presidential election as a choice between two evils and hated both candidates... Trump has a chance of winning next year, if that is the case again (and we haven't entered into a recession). Having a weak opponent with just as many ethical questions as he has, is his best hope.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump outperformed the polls in some key battleground states. It is very possible that this is the "hidden voter" factor. Meaning, that some people voted for Trump, who didn't like him and didn't want to admit to pollsters that they were voting for him. However, I think that mostly involved voters who viewed the 2016 Presidential election as a choice between two evils and hated both candidates... Trump has a chance of winning next year, if that is the case again (and we haven't entered into a recession). Having a weak opponent with just as many ethical questions as he has, is his best hope.
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Keep praying for that recession so you can feel better when you look in the mirror each morning.

Seriously dude this is gonna be Reagan v Mondale redux. I hear dark chocolate helps with depression if that helps.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump outperformed the polls in some key battleground states. It is very possible that this is the "hidden voter" factor. Meaning, that some people voted for Trump, who didn't like him and didn't want to admit to pollsters that they were voting for him. However, I think that mostly involved voters who viewed the 2016 Presidential election as a choice between two evils and hated both candidates... Trump has a chance of winning next year, if that is the case again (and we haven't entered into a recession). Having a weak opponent with just as many ethical questions as he has, is his best hope.
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Yes, I believe there were significant numbers of Trump voters that wished to stay anonymous. Didn’t want anyone to know.
 
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