The Impeachment Thread

I think that’s somewhat fair but I didn’t get any of it from your original quote which, IIRC, was “was Schiff in charge then?”

If you guys wanted to he taken seriously on a bunch of nebulous procedural and fairness arguments, you should have though of that when you were cheering and defending Trump for breaking with all unwritten norms and customs and making totally frivolous assertions of privilege to try to string things out.

THAT would have been the time to say “no, you know what, there are established procedures for these things and those things are more important than winning.” But you said “but Hillary” instead.
Really? Where was I "cheering and defending Trump for breaking with all unwritten norms and customs and making totally frivolous assertions of privilege to try and string things out."?

My big problem is with the process so far, resplendent with selective leaks, and secret squirrel SCIF.

Another big problem that is hard to escape is that there apparently has been one attempt after another to undo this election since Trump took office. First it was Russian Collusion now it's Ukrainian Quid Pro Quo. One has nothing to do with the other, but Gees, Louise, it's difficult for most anyone wiithout strong partisan leanings to even take anything like this serious any longer. It's all stupid politics as usual and a lot of people just don't pay attention and won't care until something a lot more drastic than this grabs their attention. IMO, that's what is trying to be done with this impeachment inquiry, despite Nancy's proclamations regarding "Rule of Law", and yadda, yadda, yadda.

If it can be proved that Trump screwed the pooch and public opinion agrees, then he has to answer for it. Lawyers are going to be fully employed and the three ring political circus will be on the tube, keeping all the news cycles pumping 24/7 with non stop talking heads giving their "learned opinions" and blow by blow synopsis/opinions what what was meant by what was said and what might have, could have, did happen in today's testimonies.

What a schitt show we are in for.
 
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Who runs the trial, McConnell?
No, per Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 of the United States Constitution:

"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside. And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, John Roberts, would preside over the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.
 
Half of the Republicans in the senate, probably more than that, will have to vote against Trump to convict if impeached.. Let that sink in lefties..


Its never going to happen. Enjoy these small victories because Trump is probably gonna pile drive whomever the Dims run next year. Then we can start the President forever rumors and cause a mass left wing extinction.
 
No, per Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 of the United States Constitution:

"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside. And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."
Did your hopes and dreams come crashing down when you posted that?
 
No, per Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 of the United States Constitution:

"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside. And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."

The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, John Roberts, would preside over the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.
So no shot in hell basically.
 
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Half of the Republicans in the senate, probably more than that, will have to vote against Trump to convict if impeached.. Let that sink in lefties..


Its never going to happen. Enjoy these small victories because Trump is probably gonna pile drive whomever the Dims run next year. Then we can start the President forever rumors and cause a mass left wing extinction.
67 votes. No chance.
 
Half of the Republicans in the senate, probably more than that, will have to vote against Trump to convict if impeached.. Let that sink in lefties..


Its never going to happen. Enjoy these small victories because Trump is probably gonna pile drive whomever the Dims run next year. Then we can start the President forever rumors and cause a mass left wing extinction.
Assuming that all 45 Democrats in the Senate, and the two Independents who caucus with the Democrats (Bernie Sanders and Angus King) vote to convict... That would give 47 votes for conviction. That means that 20 Republicans would have to vote to convict in order to have Trump removed from office. There are 53 Republicans in the United States Senate, so it's not quite half. However, it is very possible that Democrats in states that Trump won would vote to acquit, such as Joe Manchin in West Virginia and Doug Jones in Alabama but Republican Senators in states that Trump lost would also have a tough choice to make and there are two of them - Cory Gardner in Colorado and Susan Collins in Maine and they are both up for reelection next year. Also, we know how Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski feel about Trump. At most Democrats would get 51 votes, and that is the best case scenario. I have never said that Trump would be removed from office. The point of this should be to expose his abuse of power and present that to the American people during the campaign.

Ultimately, I believe that Trump will be removed from office, but it will be by way of the Democratic process and happen on January 20, 2021.
 
No, per Article I, Section 3, Clause 6 of the United States Constitution:

"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside. And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present."

The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, John Roberts, would preside over the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.
I knew that from the first time you posted it. Just wanted to see if 79 was paying attention.
 
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The web's not that hard.
They make blue pills for that. I was actually trying to get you on that forum where you would be eviscerated, and called every name in the book, and you couldn't get help from the mods.. You would be ripped to shreds until you pissed on yourself like a little girl. They believe in free speech, unlike some places.
 
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It's locked on his phone, probably.


He is really not helping himself at all with that. It just makes him look all the more unhinged with unverified conspiracy theories, and like he was willing to go to any length to find dirt on the Bidens. The Republicans are complaining about partisan politics during an investigation... but what is Rudy Giuliani doing but engaging in partisan politics against an opponent?
 
He is really not helping himself at all with that. It just makes him look all the more unhinged with unverified conspiracy theories, and like he was willing to go to any length to find dirt on the Bidens. The Republicans are complaining about partisan politics during an investigation... but what is Rudy Giuliani doing but engaging in partisan politics against an opponent?
Yep. He's probably the only person that would do that. By the way, has Joe won the nomination, and been named as Trump's opponent, and I missed it?
 
Yep. He's probably the only person that would do that. By the way, has Joe won the nomination, and been named as Trump's opponent, and I missed it?
Does a "potential opponent" really change anything here? Even the partisans on Fox News have conceded that there is no way that either Trump or Giuliani would have been pushing an investigation into the Bidens, if Joe Biden wasn't running for President. You would have to be especially naive (to the point of being delusional) to think that they were concerned at all about Burisma Holdings, and weren't viewing Joe Biden as a threat, when they were aggressively pursuing an investigation of him, through the leader of a foreign government.

None of this would have happened, if Joe Biden wasn't running for President.
 
Really? Where was I "cheering and defending Trump for breaking with all unwritten norms and customs and making totally frivolous assertions of privilege to try and string things out."?

My big problem is with the process so far, resplendent with selective leaks, and secret squirrel SCIF.

Another big problem that is hard to escape is that there apparently has been one attempt after another to undo this election since Trump took office. First it was Russian Collusion now it's Ukrainian Quid Pro Quo. One has nothing to do with the other, but Gees, Louise, it's difficult for most anyone wiithout strong partisan leanings to even take anything like this serious any longer. It's all stupid politics as usual and a lot of people just don't pay attention and won't care until something a lot more drastic than this grabs their attention. IMO, that's what is trying to be done with this impeachment inquiry, despite Nancy's proclamations regarding "Rule of Law", and yadda, yadda, yadda.

If it can be proved that Trump screwed the pooch and public opinion agrees, then he has to answer for it. Lawyers are going to be fully employed and the three ring political circus will be on the tube, keeping all the news cycles pumping 24/7 with non stop talking heads giving their "learned opinions" and blow by blow synopsis/opinions what what was meant by what was said and what might have, could have, did happen in today's testimonies.

What a schitt show we are in for.

“I don’t defend trump! How dare you?”
“This is all just democrats ganging up on trump and trying to play politics and overturn the election.”

C’mon, man. Both of these are absurd, but side by side? You’re better than that.

How would you characterize your reaction to the Mueller report?
 
Does a "potential opponent" really change anything here? Even the partisans on Fox News have conceded that there is no way that either Trump or Giuliani would have been pushing an investigation into the Bidens, if Joe Biden wasn't running for President. You would have to be especially naive (to the point of being delusional) to think that they were concerned at all about Burisma Holdings, and weren't viewing Joe Biden as a threat, when they were aggressively pursuing an investigation of him, through the leader of a foreign government.

None of this would have happened, if Joe Biden wasn't running for President.
I told you folks months ago that Biden will NOT be the nominee.
 
I told you folks months ago that Biden will NOT be the nominee.
I still believe that he will be, but you are sidestepping the core issue here. Answer this question: Would Donald Trump have been pushing an investigation of the Bidens, this aggressively and through the Ukrainian President, if Joe Biden wasn't running for President?
 
You misunderstood my point.

When I stated “Loyalty to power over loyalty to country” I was talking specifically about the fake impeachment and how the liberals will do anything to unseat Trump because they know they don’t have a single candidate that can beat him in the 2020 election.

The Dems don’t care about this country. They only care about political power and whatever is required to attain and maintain it.
I understood your point perfectly well and it's nonsense.
Loyalty Over Country is exactly what Trump demands from his minions.
And the dems concern for this country is precisely why they are trying to get rid of Trump by any legal means available.
Support of Trump and concern for country are diametrically opposed.
 
Assuming that all 45 Democrats in the Senate, and the two Independents who caucus with the Democrats (Bernie Sanders and Angus King) vote to convict... That would give 47 votes for conviction. That means that 20 Republicans would have to vote to convict in order to have Trump removed from office. There are 53 Republicans in the United States Senate, so it's not quite half. However, it is very possible that Democrats in states that Trump won would vote to acquit, such as Joe Manchin in West Virginia and Doug Jones in Alabama but Republican Senators in states that Trump lost would also have a tough choice to make and there are two of them - Cory Gardner in Colorado and Susan Collins in Maine and they are both up for reelection next year. Also, we know how Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski feel about Trump. At most Democrats would get 51 votes, and that is the best case scenario. I have never said that Trump would be removed from office. The point of this should be to expose his abuse of power and present that to the American people during the campaign.

Ultimately, I believe that Trump will be removed from office, but it will be by way of the Democratic process and happen on January 20, 2021.
As I, and many others have been saying, Trumps removal will come at the ballot...not the court.



in 2024.
 

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