The LSU Postgame Report

#77
#77
OrangeBalls said:
Thanks for the write up. Got it on the DVR to watch tonight since I was at the hockey game last night.

It appears that Stokes still has trouble defending his guy in O'Bryant. He's been tough for anyone, but if Stokes wants to take the next step he has to shore up his D.

Last night's game concerned me somewhat after the big win over Ky. I thought they might still be celebrating. I felt a little uneasy before the game like I did against UGA, but we were without Golden in that one. LSU had won 5 of their last 6 and was playing well. Golden has been really good these last 4 games. It's not a coincidence that UT has looked good while he has played so well.
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Didn't see the whole game, but O'Bryant is impressive. I think he might be one of the better offensive big men in the league, and I don't find any fault with Stokes in what I saw. He hit a fade away jumper from about 15 early in the game with someone in his face. One of the best big men we played all year. Stokes did have some grown man rebounds. I thought Pearl recruited O'Bryant, and he liked UT at one point. Too bad we couldn't lock him down.
 
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#78
#78
VolGee4 said:
Didn't see the whole game, but O'Bryant is impressive. I think he might be one of the better offensive big men in the league, and I don't find any fault with Stokes in what I saw. He hit a fade away jumper from about 15 early in the game with someone in his face. One of the best big men we played all year. Stokes did have some grown man rebounds. I thought Pearl recruited O'Bryant, and he liked UT at one point. Too bad we couldn't lock him down.
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Yeah, I havent seen a better big in the SEC than him all year. If I were an NBA team I would take him over Patrick Young all day long.
 
#79
#79
VolGee4 said:
Didn't see the whole game, but O'Bryant is impressive. I think he might be one of the better offensive big men in the league, and I don't find any fault with Stokes in what I saw. He hit a fade away jumper from about 15 early in the game with someone in his face. One of the best big men we played all year. Stokes did have some grown man rebounds. I thought Pearl recruited O'Bryant, and he liked UT at one point. Too bad we couldn't lock him down.
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Definitely one of the best in the league.

The post from Wichita State was a great big man as well, almost the same kind of player.
 
#81
#81
tennesseefan31 said:
Golden, Mcrae, Richardson, Maymon and Stokes

Moore, Hubbs, Makanjoula, Reese and Davis/Chevious off the bench

That is an absolutely sick, loaded team
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I think there is a good chance we can add Thompson. Just makes sense according to what has transpired.

PG- Golden/Thompson/Landry
SG- McRae/Moore
SF- Richardson/Hubbs/Chievous
PF- Maymon/Reese/Davis
C- Stokes/Makanjoula

Hubbs and Moore as the biggest contributors off the bench. Great lineup.
 
#82
#82
OrangeBalls said:
Thanks for the write up. Got it on the DVR to watch tonight since I was at the hockey game last night.

It appears that Stokes still has trouble defending his guy in O'Bryant. He's been tough for anyone, but if Stokes wants to take the next step he has to shore up his D.

Last night's game concerned me somewhat after the big win over Ky. I thought they might still be celebrating. I felt a little uneasy before the game like I did against UGA, but we were without Golden in that one. LSU had won 5 of their last 6 and was playing well. Golden has been really good these last 4 games. It's not a coincidence that UT has looked good while he has played so well.
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Stokes didn't have O'Bryant all the time. When LSU had their 7 footer in, Stokes had him and Moore tried O'Bryant. That did not go well.
 
#83
#83
VolGee4 said:
I think there is a good chance we can add Thompson. Just makes sense according to what has transpired.

PG- Golden/Thompson/Landry
SG- McRae/Moore
SF- Richardson/Hubbs/Chievous
PF- Maymon/Reese/Davis
C- Stokes/Makanjoula

Hubbs and Moore as the biggest contributors off the bench. Great lineup.
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If CCM is really in on elite PG's for 2014 (one of the recruiting guys can pitch in here), then taking Landry and Thompson in the same class is wasting one scholarship. :twocents:
 
#85
#85
zansdad said:
If CCM is really in on elite PG's for 2014 (one of the recruiting guys can pitch in here), then taking Landry and Thompson in the same class is wasting one scholarship. :twocents:
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You don't like the idea of 3 scholarship PGs? 2 being guys who very well may play the 2 some?
 
#86
#86
VolGee4 said:
I think there is a good chance we can add Thompson. Just makes sense according to what has transpired.

PG- Golden/Thompson/Landry
SG- McRae/Moore
SF- Richardson/Hubbs/Chievous
PF- Maymon/Reese/Davis
C- Stokes/Makanjoula

Hubbs and Moore as the biggest contributors off the bench. Great lineup.
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I think Davis will surprise some people.
 
#87
#87
bleedingTNorange said:
You don't like the idea of 3 scholarship PGs? 2 being guys who very well may play the 2 some?
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I guess in the scenario, the simple answer is, no.

Long answer

Martin has shown he plays a relatively short bench. Golden will get most of the minutes next year again so whoever he brings in will be a 10 mpg backup at most. There is no room at the wing for Thomoson to pick up. (Moore, Hubbs, Richardson, and McRae) So Thompson and Landry will be 2 scholarship guys competing for 10 mpg at most. If you think you are getting an elite guy in 2014 then you have him and you still have 2 guys competing for 10mpg as a backup PG and you're looking at moving one over to the wing where you would already have Richardson, Moore, Chievous, and possibly Hubbs. If that's Thompson then why do you need Landry? Just let Thompson get run at both. If Landry beats out Thompson for PG minutes then you just recruited another player at a position where you already have log jam.

Now if Martin doesn't think he can land an elite PG in 2014 then taking 2 now and getting both PT next year is fine. I just don't see the value of running off marginal to average guys to sign other marginal to average guys. So if Martin can sign Thompson because Landry isn't coming, I'm fine with that but if Landry does come then I don't see why you need Thompson. I would much rather them take a flyer on a marginal 6-10 guy if you have to run a current guy off to do it.
 
#88
#88
^Thompson is far from marginal.

Compare the offer lists of Thompson and Landry, it's not even comparable. Thompson is a bordering top 150 guy, Landry is being downgraded to a 2*.

If nothing else, you take Thompson and run Landry off after the year.

Also, what happens if you feel good about 2014 PGs but whiff? You're left with Landry at PG and that's it?
 
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#89
#89
bleedingTNorange said:
^Thompson is far from marginal.

Compare the offer lists of Thompson and Landry, it's not even comparable. Thompson is a bordering top 150 guy, Landry is being downgraded to a 2*.

If nothing else, you take Thompson and run Landry off after the year.

Also, what happens if you feel good about 2014 PGs but whiff? You're left with Landry at PG and that's it?
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I would agree with you on all of this if you weren't running a guy off to do it.
 
#91
#91
bleedingTNorange said:
Why would you not run off q, Edwards or Reese? Q is gonna play wing, you've already stated how loaded that position is, same for Edwards.
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Running guys off sets a bad precedent. If you look around college basketball it happens when there is a coaching change a lot but not so much after that. Otherwise, guys like Woolridge, Asumnu, etc would never have played 4 years. Martin parted with Washpun. I was fine with that since Martin had completely stopped playing him and it was obvious he was never going to get minutes and it looked to be mutual. But how do you tell a guy like Chievous, who got 10 minutes just a week ago, to leave so we can make room for a guy.

I don't think coaches run their own guys off as much as you like to think. A coach would get a bad reputation for that pretty quick.
 
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#92
zansdad said:
Running guys off sets a bad precedent. If you look around college basketball it happens when there is a coaching change a lot but not so much after that. Otherwise, guys like Woolridge, Asumnu, etc would never have played 4 years. Martin parted with Washpun. I was fine with that since Martin had completely stopped playing him and it was obvious he was never going to get minutes and it looked to be mutual. But how do you tell a guy like Chievous, who got 10 minutes just a week ago, to leave so we can make room for a guy.

I don't think coaches run their own guys off as much as you like to think. A coach would get a bad reputation for pretty quick.
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So then you're ok with Edwards being ran off? I've got no issue with it, scholarships are year to year, not 4 years. How many players up and leave a coach hanging, I think it's a 2 way street personally.
 
#93
#93
bleedingTNorange said:
So then you're ok with Edwards being ran off? I've got no issue with it, scholarships are year to year, not 4 years. How many players up and leave a coach hanging, I think it's a 2 way street personally.
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No, I'm not okay with Edwards either. He would have nowhere to go since he only has one year of eligibility left. As far as scholarships being year to year, your right but you just don't see college basketball coaches cutting guys loose all the time. I would hate for Martin to be the guy to start doing it.

As far as players leaving coaches, I find it hard to have sympathy for men being paid 7 figure salaries to coach a game full of kids that aren't allowed to be paid even minimum wage.
 
#94
#94
zansdad said:
No, I'm not okay with Edwards either. He would have nowhere to go since he only has one year of eligibility left. As far as scholarships being year to year, your right but you just don't see college basketball coaches cutting guys loose all the time. I would hate for Martin to be the guy to start doing it.

As far as players leaving coaches, I find it hard to have sympathy for men being paid 7 figure salaries to coach a game full of kids that aren't allowed to be paid even minimum wage.
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Can guys with one year remaining not transfer?

Martin has done it one time, so running 2 guys off in a 5 year career is gonna hurt recruiting? Calipari has ran off his fair share and it hasn't seemed to effect him...
 
#97
#97
bleedingTNorange said:
Yea i didn't think it was banned, seemed like a realistic option to me.
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Seems like I read a while back that SEC wasn't going to allow it any longer for transferring in. For example, John fields would not have been allowed to play at UT under that rule. But it is allowed in other conferences. For example, swiperboy this year.

Not 100% sure it is now a rule but I do remember it was on the table. I believe it came up after the QB massoli transferred to ole miss after getting kicked off at Oregon. He was able to transfer without penalty because he had a degree. Same as fields. Not sure if swiperboy had a degree.
 
#98
#98
On a side note to that, Dwight miller is a sr but has yet to play this year. Does he have a redshirt left? I doubt he'd be here for another year but may be open to going the swiperboy route.

I don't even think miller is dressing for games. Is he hurt that bad or just not considered part of this year's roster?
 
#99
#99
BigZiti09 said:
Seems like I read a while back that SEC wasn't going to allow it any longer for transferring in. For example, John fields would not have been allowed to play at UT under that rule. But it is allowed in other conferences. For example, swiperboy this year.

Not 100% sure it is now a rule but I do remember it was on the table. I believe it came up after the QB massoli transferred to ole miss after getting kicked off at Oregon. He was able to transfer without penalty because he had a degree. Same as fields. Not sure if swiperboy had a degree.
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Right, I think you're right about the transferring in, but I dont think it prohibits guys from transferring out of the SEC.
 
#100
#100
BigZiti09 said:
On a side note to that, Dwight miller is a sr but has yet to play this year. Does he have a redshirt left? I doubt he'd be here for another year but may be open to going the swiperboy route.

I don't even think miller is dressing for games. Is he hurt that bad or just not considered part of this year's roster?
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Here's my theory, and I'm sure most will disagree, but thats fine just an opinion.

I think miller was gone after last year, the staff was heavily recruiting guys, offering guys...so they must've had someone in mind to cut loose. However, we didn't get any of the guys the staff wanted, so instead of offering guys they weren't sold on IMO they just told miller he could stay if he wanted. He wouldn't have to play or practice, he could focus on his studies and finish out his time at UT without having to pay his way. I know he's a very smart kid, and is big into his studies, so that seems very possible to me.

Once again, jmo.
 
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