The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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lawgator1 said:
Yes, but he's not running, is he?

The GOP claims moral high ground and piousness, but their candidate is a guy they believe cheated on his third wife as she gave birth, and now still lies about it.

As many prominent Republicans have been saying, the GOP has lost its way.
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"lost its way"? Nah, they're just revealing what they've always been.
 
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luthervol said:
It's the people sending him $4 million dollars, supporting his 2024 run, and turning out for his pep rallies who are the issue.
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Coming from a guy who would vote for Biden over DeSantis after what Biden has done to this country in just two years.
 
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luthervol said:
Everybody knows poor behavior has existed since the beginning of man.
Everybody knows that Trump took it to a new, never before seen, low. By a large margin.

It was always about Trump lowering the bar to much, crossing that line that should never be crossed.

We should never normalize Trump!!
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I completely agree. That's the main reason I'll never vote for the guy, but he's nothing new. He's just willing to say or do anything because consequences don't mean anything to him. It's like Bruce Wayne got into politics. It's the same as Elon Musk buying Twitter. It's not that they're really worse. It's just that the political class knows that normal tactics won't make them go away and that's why they hate them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, but he's not running, is he?

The GOP claims moral high ground and piousness, but their candidate is a guy they believe cheated on his third wife as she gave birth, and now still lies about it.

As many prominent Republicans have been saying, the GOP has lost its way.
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How do you know for sure it happened?

I say the GOP has finally found our way now that we have booted the Romney/McCain types
 
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luthervol said:
I've seen it stated by others that Trump was worth it simply for his judicial appointments.

If so, then never question support for Biden, because one only need claim that he is worth it simply for his judicial appointments.
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We've already seen his radical appointments get rejected recently. He sucks at this job.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Dems are too dumb to see they need Trump. If Trump were to be convicted and put in prison (he won't) that's their worst outcome. They have made him the ultimate villain. Now DeSantis or whoever the next nominee is will get similar treatment but I don't think they will ever be able to turn someone into such a boogeyman like they have with Trump, but I have no doubt they will try.
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I'm hoping that the repub will never again sink to the point of nominating someone as horrendously despicable as Trump. Trump received the reaction he deserved, the reaction that everyone with half a brain should have known was coming. DeSantis is a little better, but not much. He's still a Trumper, intent on division, appealing to the lowest common denominator in his party, and portraying the left as the enemy. (as long as that is the foundation of the republican nominee - don't expect much)
 
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GAVol said:
That's such BS. When Trump goes away, the left will create a new villain. It's like pro wrestling.
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See . . . I told you.
luthervol said:
DeSantis is a little better, but not much. He's still a Trumper, intent on division, appealing to the lowest common denominator in his party, and portraying the left as the enemy. (as long as that is the foundation of the republican nominee - don't expect much)
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luthervol said:
It's the people sending him $4 million dollars, supporting his 2024 run, and turning out for his pep rallies who are the issue.
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You still fear Trump just like all Dims. I’d vote for the guy that’s been impeached by Dims, indicted by Dims, because they fear him. He’s in their way in destroying the country, that’s why he’s in the news since he came down the escalator.
 
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GAVol said:
Come on man . . . It's about the safest bet there is. Dude is an absolute cad and has been pulling this kind of stuff for 40 years.
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Maybe he did, I really don't care either way. But we are talking what 16 years ago? I absolutely don't care
 
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GAVol said:
See . . . I told you.
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Please.
The president has always been viewed as a villain by some members of the opposing party. That is never going to change.
Obama, Clinton, Carter, Bush, Reagan - they were all viewed as villains be many.

Here's the thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it 5%, 50%, or 95% of the opposing party that views the president as a villain?
Do they rank him as a 3, 5, 7, or 10 on the villain scale?

Trumps numbers were deservedly higher that any previous president.
Trumps numbers were higher than any future president's numbers will be.
Not all potential republican presidents would receive the same scores - DeSantis' scores would be rightfully high.

Think about what the republican scores would have been for President Hillary compared to President "moderate".
 
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luthervol said:
I'm hoping that the repub will never again sink to the point of nominating someone as horrendously despicable as Trump. Trump received the reaction he deserved, the reaction that everyone with half a brain should have known was coming. DeSantis is a little better, but not much. He's still a Trumper, intent on division, appealing to the lowest common denominator in his party, and portraying the left as the enemy. (as long as that is the foundation of the republican nominee - don't expect much)
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Did you hate the peace or prosperity the most? I hope you and all dems suffer bigly under the current disastrous regime. You all are the enemy
 
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GVF said:
I'm sure it won't make a difference but I'm watching Ramaswamy. DeSantis would be a second choice for me.
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I really like Ramaswamy. I don't think he has a chance, but he sure makes a lot of sense.

He reminds me of listening to Andrew Yang. I didn't agree with some of his viewpoints, but he presented himself so thoughtfully that it felt worthwhile to listen.
 
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luthervol said:
Please.
The president has always been viewed as a villain by some members of the opposing party. That is never going to change.
Obama, Clinton, Carter, Bush, Reagan - they were all viewed as villains be many.

Here's the thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it 5%, 50%, or 95% of the opposing party that views the president as a villain?
Do they rank him as a 3, 5, 7, or 10 on the villain scale?

Trumps numbers were deservedly higher that any previous president.
Trumps numbers were higher than any future president's numbers will be.
Not all potential republican presidents would receive the same scores - DeSantis' scores would be rightfully high.

Think about what the republican scores would have been for President Hillary compared to President "moderate".
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Where you and I differ is that I think the villain number is at least 70% of the party on both sides at all times. Most people just have an innate need to attribute every possible negative attribute and dumb narrative to their political opponents.
 
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GAVol said:
I struggle to see much of a distinction other than MM’s career was a little easier on sensibilities. What they participated in was the exact same thing.
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That is absolutely ridiculous. Porn and stripping are not the same thing as being in legitimate movies.
 
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