The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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LadyVolette said:
Possibly, but how has the Left been programmed to view the Right? It's not as people who just want to be left alone, which is most of us
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The programmed view has increasingly been that the right is made of people who hate the left, view them as the enemy, have no desire to work together, think things were better 50 years ago, and would love to return to that time.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

Their polling during the 2022 mid-term elections was sure as hell wrong. They had Republicans winning majority control of the Senate, and they had Republicans gaining 44 seats in the House of Representatives. They only gained 9.
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if they are right leaning why to do they rate Biden's approval consistently higher than other polls? is it some secret right-wing plan to inflate Biden's poll numbers?

even 538 got the midterms wrong.
 
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volinbham said:
well then criticizing the judge and his family isn't death and destruction rhetoric so what's the problem?
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You would defend Trump for practically anything.

Trump's previous statements concerning possible death and destruction were irresponsible. The judge simply asked him to stop making them.
 
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luthervol said:
The programmed view has increasingly been that the right is made of people who hate the left, view them as the enemy, have no desire to work together, think things were better 50 years ago, and would love to return to that time.
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And I don't hate anybody.. we have to quit assuming because someone does not agree with us, that they hate us lol..it isn't a logical conclusion
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You would defend Trump for practically anything. T

Trump's previous statements concerning possible death and destruction were irresponsible. The judge simply asked him to stop making them.
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yes the judge did that.

criticizing the judge doesn't violate that yet the link you posted made that connection. I'm questioning the link between the two that you seem to be making.
 
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volinbham said:
if they are right leaning why to do they rate Biden's approval consistently higher than other polls? is it some secret right-wing plan to inflate Biden's poll numbers?

even 538 got the midterms wrong.
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If they are an accurate polling organization, why did they have Republicans picking up 44 seats in the House of Reps? They picked up 9. They also had Gretchen Whitmer losing to Tudor Dixon in the Michigan Governor's race. Whitmer won easily.
 
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volinbham said:
yes the judge did that.

criticizing the judge doesn't violate that yet the link you posted made that connection. I'm questioning the link between the two that you seem to be making.
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Trump was critical of the judge and his family. That is childish and stupid ... and once again, you will defend Trump for pretty much anything.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If they are an accurate polling organization, why did they have Republicans picking up 44 seats in the House of Reps? They picked up 9. They also had Gretchen Whitmer losing to Tudor Dixon in the Michigan Governor's race. Whitmer won easily.
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2 points

1. they weren't the only polling organization to get the midterms wrong
2. if they aren't accurate then Biden's job approval is actually lower than what the polling averages (including 538s) show.

So their inaccuracy doesn't appear to be leaning one way or the other.
 
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volinbham said:
2 points

1. they weren't the only polling organization to get the midterms wrong
2. if they aren't accurate then Biden's job approval is actually lower than what the polling averages (including 538s) show.

So their inaccuracy doesn't appear to be leaning one way or the other.
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Their inaccuracy has always leaned to the right. Every election skews to the right. It's a Republican pollster.
 
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LadyVolette said:
And I don't hate anybody.. we have to quit assuming because someone does not agree with us, that they hate us lol..it isn't a logical conclusion
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You have always seemed reasonable. BUT there are a large number of posters in the PF that proudly admit they hate the left and view them as the enemy. I always thought that mindset was confined to the 3% on the lunatic fringe, but the lunatic fringe seems to have grown to 25% over the past several years. That trend needs to be reversed and the lunatic fringe reduced in numbers.
 
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luthervol said:
You have always seemed reasonable. BUT there are a large number of posters in the PF that proudly admit they hate the left and view them as the enemy. I always thought that mindset was confined to the 3% on the lunatic fringe, but the lunatic fringe seems to have grown to 25% over the past several years. That trend needs to be reversed and the lunatic fringe reduced in numbers.
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A large number? Who? I don't recall any saying the hate the left. Given it's a large number you should be able to identify at least 5 posters who've proudly admitted they hate the left.
 
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volinbham said:
It is not skewing left WRT Biden approval. The opposite it appears. What gives?
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Is that really all you have to lean on? Their approval rating of Biden? Because I can cite example after example of how they have consistently over-stated Republican chances of winning elections - including Mitt Romney in 2012 and Donald Trump in 2020.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Is that really all you have to lean on? Their approval rating of Biden? Because I can cite example after example of how they have consistently over-stated Republican chances of winning elections - including Mitt Romney in 2012 and Donald Trump in 2020.
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I'm just asking if we should ignore their approval rating of Biden and questioning why it would consistently be the highest of the generally used polling organizations.

Have an answer?
 
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volinbham said:
I'm just asking if we should ignore their approval rating of Biden and questioning why it would consistently be the highest of the generally used polling organizations.

Have an answer?
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That's not a head to head election poll. Election polls are where they really inflate Republicans.
 
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volinbham said:
A large number? Who? I don't recall any saying the hate the left. Given it's a large number you should be able to identify at least 5 posters who've proudly admitted they hate the left.
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OrangeBoro said:
I will not unite with these people. I despise them they are scum of the earth
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I'll look for some other examples when I have time. There is no way you honestly believe that they will be hard to find.
 
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Tman44 said:
Everyone can avoid the "risk of an unwanted pregnancy." Keep your legs together. I guess that makes too much sense for those on the left. It is sincerely sad that so many in our country ignore personal responsibility and pretend reality does not exist. It is just another of many examples of why Leftist/Marxist are morally corrupt and must squash truth.
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Your post is an example of why the right's thinking is more akin to the thinking found in muslim countries ruled by sharia law.

Abortion is and should be an option up to a point.
 
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