The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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luthervol said:
First - thanks for keeping it short.

I think the GOP should have been more vocal and aggressive in narrowing the field early. The 17 other candidates should have reduced their numbers more quickly. Candidate A should have said "I am dropping out because we are currently splitting the votes of the reasonable majority and allowing the fringe 15% to speak for the party, I encourage all of my supporters to strongly consider candidate B."
Candidate C then says, "I agree with candidate A, I am removing myself from the race, please consider supporting candidate B."
Candidate D then says, "I'm dropping out also, because as a party we can not allow ourselves to nominate candidate T."
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oh, you mean they should have colluded to chose who the public gets to vote for. sounds like an awesome solution that will totally lead to clear and fair elections.

a better solution would be combined primaries, Rs & Ds running against each other. That way no one can run to the fringes. The general would just consist of the two candidates that received the most votes overall.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Maybe. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not so much anymore. And he has deniability here, it’s why I said this -



But here’s what I do know.

It’s not Trump that most disgusts him. Trump is just a symbol. What he truly loathes is those people that put Trump in power.

It’s those people, and Repubs in the primaries, and all those complicit in the GOP that he denigrates constantly.

He’s in this very thread talking retribution. Those racist, uneducated, gullible, fools.

That’s the context. Most of those posts are still there.
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Please find a post where I talk about retribution to those racist, uneducated, gullible, fools.
And it is Trump who most disgusts me, but I do mostly blame the people who voted for him in the 2016 primaries.
 
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Orangeburst said:
How is Trump considered "fringe"? He is basically an old school moderate Dem.
The problem is the Dems have become so radical, the entire Party is now fringe.
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It's his approach that was fringe. Stupid pep rallies where he chants "lock her up"....that's the epitome of fringe.
Constantly gaslighting regarding news sources.......that's fringe.
Publicly insulting his own party with silly nicknames on Twitter......that's fringe.

His whole candidacy was built on presenting himself as different, anti-DC, anti-governemtn, .....fringe.
 
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luthervol said:
Please find a post where I talk about retribution to those racist, uneducated, gullible, fools.
And it is Trump who most disgusts me, but I do mostly blame the people who voted for him in the 2016 primaries.
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You have a lot of posts in here, or did.

Don’t know if there is/was a single sole post that included all the components referenced - but you weaved quite the tapestry.

And yes, your absolute disdain for those people oozes every time you reference them.
 
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85SugarVol said:
You have a lot of posts in here, or did.

Don’t know if there is/was a single sole post that included all the components referenced - but you weaved quite the tapestry.

And yes, your absolute disdain for those people oozes every time you reference them.
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I would say my disdain for "those people" is substantially less than the disdain for many on the left constantly shown by many posters in the PF.
 
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volgr said:
I enjoy the cope of leftists, after reading the joke of an indictment they are now pinning their hopes on GA. Impeachment 1, fail. Impeachment 2, fail. Mueller, fail. Now this latest idiocy, which they know will fail.

This is the Lefts version of "but her emails".
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Their plan is as follows.
Keep him in court battles until he is broke/broken.
Continue to smear him to sway any possible votes right up untill the election.
Convict him of anything, anything so he can't hold office. ( I heard he once took a wizz off the Brooklyn Bridge)
What ever it takes to keep him out of office.
I mean the leftist would vote for a dog, a rock, or a molester...Just not DJT.
 
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luthervol said:
I would say my disdain for "those people" is a substantially less than the disdain for many on the left constantly shown by many posters in the PF.
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There is tremendous contempt and disdain for the left on this board. That is 100% true.

Do you find solace in that? To know those people do it to?
 
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85SugarVol said:
There is tremendous contempt and disdain for the left on this board. That is 100% true.

Do you find solace in that? To know those people do it to?
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I do not. But it is precisely that growing level of disdain for the left that I attribute to Trumpism.
That's what I always hated most about Trumpism.
It's a little like this.........I have little tolerance for people who have little tolerance of others.
I have strong prejudices against people who have strong prejudices of others.
I have little empathy for people who are not empathetic of others.

I get the surface level apparent contradiction.
 
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luthervol said:
I do not. But it is precisely that growing level of disdain for the left that I attribute to Trumpism.
That's what I always hated most about Trumpism.
It's a little like this.........I have little tolerance for people who have little tolerance of others.
I have strong prejudices against people who have strong prejudices of others.
I have little empathy for people who are not empathetic of others.

I get the surface level apparent contradiction.
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Which goes to my original reply to your now deleted post -

“And you complain of divisiveness”

Be better.
 
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luthervol said:
I do not. But it is precisely that growing level of disdain for the left that I attribute to Trumpism.
That's what I always hated most about Trumpism.
It's a little like this.........I have little tolerance for people who have little tolerance of others.
I have strong prejudices against people who have strong prejudices of others.
I have little empathy for people who are not empathetic of others.

I get the surface level apparent contradiction.
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Disdain for the left began when Tipper Gore went bat sH1t crazy with censoring music. That took place Long before Trump was in the political picture Brother Luthenburg.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm no more the arbiter of truth than anyone else posting here. That accusation makes no sense.
Of course I think my opinions are right, if I didn't, I would change them. Maybe what I can do that some of you cannot is put opinions on a continuum.
If I say peperoni is the best pizza topping and you say it's sausage. Fine, that's pretty much 100% opinion - no issue.

If I say Heupel is a great coach for UT and you say he is horrible. 40% opinion -Still fine, but I think you're crazy.

If I say child pornography is bad and you say it is great. 1% opinion - Not so fine and I think you are crazy and evil.
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When you say you need to remove the stain and that stain is others’ opinions then yes you’re viewing yourself to be the arbiter of truth whether you realize it or not.
 
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turbovol said:
Here's the thing about the Trump indictment: There will be a trial, and as with most cases of all types in America, a jury will decide his innocence
or guilt. He'd better stop threatening the prosecutor and the judge or he's going to be getting more charges. I do think it very likely that we'll see other indictments against him, and fairly soon. There is the Georgia case related his attempts to subvert the election--and he's on tape trying to bully the state's top election official into "finding" him more votes, which would be felony vote fraud. And the special prosecutor has got two serious investigations going--one on the classified documents that Trump took and refused to return, and the other on the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Trump has always been a completely dishonest and corrupt man. FACT. He's always been a gangster, and he's gotten away with law-breaking and rule-breaking all his life. How anyone could still support or feel empathy for that man is way beyond me. We're talking about a man who was impeached twice. We're talking about a man who--as president!--lied blatantly for weeks about nonexistent vote fraud, tried to subvert a presidential election and then incited an attack on the U.S. Capitol that ultimately resulted in 9 deaths. There are nine people who would still be alive were it not for Trump--as president!--lying about vote fraud. And if you still want to believe there was vote fraud, you're beyond hope. He's a very bad character--as bad as we've ever had in politics in America. He's also a man who has a great affinity for dictators and who is quite fond on Putin War Criminal--America's chief adversay. That's treasonous.
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What a load of idiotic drivel.
 
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