The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Twitter got fined $350,000 (fine upheld) for not complying with an order to produce the subject materials.

One naturally wonders if there is something in there which is going to be yet another shoe to drop.
 
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Weezer said:
No one wants to engage in an honest conversation on how both sides are corrupt. I bring it here because here is where the left leaning posters flock. They spend less time in threads about Biden's corruption. I'm not trying to deflect from Trump. I've conceded that he is corrupt. He never should have been President. But it's hypocritical for either side to call out the other while ignoring their own side, or worse yet, pretending their side is somehow "better". Political parties have ruined this country. Not just one party, but both of the major parties. They've corrupted government at all levels.
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I don't think anyone is ducking that both sides are corrupt? I know I haven't.

it just seems weird you're trying to shoehorn in whataboutisims in a thread that is VERY LITERALLY about Donalds criminal behavior - any redirection to Biden is very much a deflection.

When Joe gets indicted, I'm sure you'll be swinging from the chandeliers and you'll have good reason - until then you're trying to make equivocations that aren't based on reality.
 
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Majors said:
Sitting in a circle count for “minions”?
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If the occupants of the circle have on matching T-tshirts and hats with a politicians name emblazoned on it, then yes.

It can be less than 100% if at least 25% of the circle's occupants have a cowboy style hat that is bedazzled with the politician's name.
 
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Septic said:
If the occupants of the circle have on matching T-tshirts and hats with a politicians name emblazoned on it, then yes.

It can be less than 100% if at least 25% of the circle's occupants have a cowboy style hat that is bedazzled with the politician's name.
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Hey @Gandalf, can you change "indictment" to "indictments" in the thread title? We're already at 3, with more coming next week. You gotta be quick to keep up with the Grand Poobah of the Party of Law and Order.

 
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C-south said:
If only trump were black and shot somebody or looted some stores.
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Or he could have urged his rube base to attack the U.S. Capitol and Congress and get police officers and others killed.

Your powers of perception are a bit, uh, weak.
 
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A respected conservative judge who advised the former Republican vice-president Mike Pence not to attempt to overturn the 2020 election believes Donald Trump has destroyed the Republican party.





“American democracy simply cannot function without two equally healthy and equally strong political parties,” J Michael Luttig told CNN on Wednesday. “So today, in my view, there is no Republican party to counter the Democratic party in the country.

“And for that reason, American democracy is in grave peril.”

American democracy has by most measures been in grave peril since 6 January 2021, the day Pence, as vice-president, took Luttig’s advice and refused to attempt to block congressional certification of Joe Biden’s election win.



A mob Trump told to “fight like hell” attacked the Capitol, some chanting for Pence to be hanged. The effort failed but nine deaths have been linked to the riot, including law enforcement suicides. More than a thousand people have been charged and hundreds convicted, some with seditious conspiracy.

Last week, the special counsel Jack Smith indicted Trump on four counts relating to election subversion. Trump, 77, pleaded not guilty, as he has to 74 other criminal counts, in New York over hush-money payments to a porn star and federally regarding his retention of classified information.

Trump also faces cases concerning his business affairs and his treatment of women. In New York this week, regarding a civil suit in which Trump was found liable for defamation and sexual assault, a judge said it was not defamatory to call the former president a rapist.

Trial dates are piling up, most during the Republican primary next year. Nonetheless, Trump leads Ron DeSantis of Florida, Pence and the rest of the field by more than 30 points, firmly on course to face Biden again. In Congress, his far-right supporters maintain a grip on the House as they seek to impeach Biden.

Luttig told CNN: “A political party is a collection and assemblage of individuals who share a set of beliefs and principles and policy views about the United States of America. Today, there is no such shared set of beliefs and values and principles or even policy views as within the Republican party for America.”

Trump, he said, was a danger “more so today” than last year, when Luttig testified to the House January 6 committee.


A respected conservative judge who was considered for the supreme court under George W Bush, Luttig made a tremendous impact with his January 6 testimony.

Speaking on primetime television, Luttig said: “I believe that had Vice-President Pence obeyed the orders from his president … and declared Donald Trump the next president of the United States … [he] would have plunged America into what I believe would have been tantamount to a revolution, within a constitutional crisis.”

On Wednesday, Luttig also told CNN he did not think Trump could avoid conviction for election subversion.

“The evidence is overwhelming that the former president knew full well that he had lost the election,” he said.

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C-south said:
The morons won’t prosecute real crimes.
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Refusing to give back classified documents isn't a real crime? Lying about classified documents in possession, isn't a real crime? Lying to your lawyers about possessing classified documents isn't a real crime? After being given 3 opportunities to return said classified documents?

Threatening the AG and his deputy with termination if they didn't overturn the election, isn't a real crime? Conspiring to present fake electors isn't a crime?

That"s all documented evidence
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Refusing to give back classified documents isn't a real crime? Lying about classified documents in possession, isn't a real crime? Lying to your lawyers about possessing classified documents isn't a real crime? After being given 3 opportunities to return said classified documents?

Threatening the AG and his deputy with termination if they didn't overturn the election, isn't a real crime? Conspiring to present fake electors isn't a crime?

That"s all documented evidence
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And it has all been provided by, wait........, 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 Trump Republicans
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Refusing to give back classified documents isn't a real crime? Lying about classified documents in possession, isn't a real crime? Lying to your lawyers about possessing classified documents isn't a real crime? After being given 3 opportunities to return said classified documents?

Threatening the AG and his deputy with termination if they didn't overturn the election, isn't a real crime? Conspiring to present fake electors isn't a crime?

That"s all documented evidence
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If it were anyone but Trump or any Democrat, @C-south would have already had an aneurism.

They were ready to lock Hillary up because of an unsecured email server.
 
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turbovol said:
A respected conservative judge who advised the former Republican vice-president Mike Pence not to attempt to overturn the 2020 election believes Donald Trump has destroyed the Republican party.

“American democracy simply cannot function without two equally healthy and equally strong political parties,” J Michael Luttig told CNN on Wednesday. “So today, in my view, there is no Republican party to counter the Democratic party in the country.

“And for that reason, American democracy is in grave peril.”

American democracy has by most measures been in grave peril since 6 January 2021, the day Pence, as vice-president, took Luttig’s advice and refused to attempt to block congressional certification of Joe Biden’s election win.



A mob Trump told to “fight like hell” attacked the Capitol, some chanting for Pence to be hanged. The effort failed but nine deaths have been linked to the riot, including law enforcement suicides. More than a thousand people have been charged and hundreds convicted, some with seditious conspiracy.

Last week, the special counsel Jack Smith indicted Trump on four counts relating to election subversion. Trump, 77, pleaded not guilty, as he has to 74 other criminal counts, in New York over hush-money payments to a porn star and federally regarding his retention of classified information.

Trump also faces cases concerning his business affairs and his treatment of women. In New York this week, regarding a civil suit in which Trump was found liable for defamation and sexual assault, a judge said it was not defamatory to call the former president a rapist.

Trial dates are piling up, most during the Republican primary next year. Nonetheless, Trump leads Ron DeSantis of Florida, Pence and the rest of the field by more than 30 points, firmly on course to face Biden again. In Congress, his far-right supporters maintain a grip on the House as they seek to impeach Biden.

Luttig told CNN: “A political party is a collection and assemblage of individuals who share a set of beliefs and principles and policy views about the United States of America. Today, there is no such shared set of beliefs and values and principles or even policy views as within the Republican party for America.”

Trump, he said, was a danger “more so today” than last year, when Luttig testified to the House January 6 committee.


A respected conservative judge who was considered for the supreme court under George W Bush, Luttig made a tremendous impact with his January 6 testimony.

Speaking on primetime television, Luttig said: “I believe that had Vice-President Pence obeyed the orders from his president … and declared Donald Trump the next president of the United States … [he] would have plunged America into what I believe would have been tantamount to a revolution, within a constitutional crisis.”

On Wednesday, Luttig also told CNN he did not think Trump could avoid conviction for election subversion.

“The evidence is overwhelming that the former president knew full well that he had lost the election,” he said.

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So the FBI had a warrant for a MAGA nutjob who was threatening to use his sniper rifle to kill Biden on an upcoming visit to Utah. He had also threatened to kill one of Trump's prosecutors. FBI killed him during the arrest process.

Shall we break out the "Its just a First Amendment issue" nonsense now, or save it for later?


https://www.fox13now.com/news/crime/fbi-agents-shoot-kill-provo-suspect-during-arrest
 
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Septic said:
If it were anyone but Trump or any Democrat, @C-south would have already had an aneurism.

They were ready to lock Hillary up because of an unsecured email server.
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That’s disingenuous and you know it. She put our national security at risk and intentionally destroyed and/or ordered the destruction of the evidence after it was discovered.

Comey foolishly let her off the hook, but his description of her actions the day he did were damming.

Do better!
 
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Septic said:
Some dude in the twitter comments section called Trump, "yam tits."

If that's not disallowed by VN rules, that's my new go-to for him.
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Yam tits is a good one, as it invokes the idea of man boobs and their orangish hue. If it weren't for talented plastic surgeons, he'd likely have the largest yams in that family.
 
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