The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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BernardKingGOAT said:
So the outlets that you get your info are the most legitimate?
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Those mentioned by him did run Russian Collusion for years with no integrity for truth. Rather chose opinions and media manipulation as their journalism while sitting on a sitting President with ties to foreign money. So you decide on the term legitimate.
 
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volfanhill said:
The least surprising thing is you advocating for someone to forfeit their rights
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Trump tried to make a mockery of one of our most important and fundamental rights. The right to vote in a free and fair election.

It's kind of silly for Trump to whine about rights now.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's irrelevant to the point ... If you are saying that it was okay for Trump to target Biden in 2020, but also saying that it's wrong for Trump to be targeted by Biden now .... that makes you a hypocrite.
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That doesn’t make me a hypocrite, it seems to say the opposite knowing now all that’s come out about Biden. So again, Trump was right.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
1) I'm dumber for listening to that phone call but to say that he was pressuring him to find votes that weren't there is making a huge assumption based off of your own bias. I do think that they will convict him in this case, but I also think it will be overturned.

2) Trump isn't smart enough to have spearheaded such a scheme.

3) People keep acting like he stood up to Trump and did the right thing when he didn't have the power to reject the electors.
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1) Brad Raffensperger is on record saying that he felt pressured by Trump to change the outcome in Georgia. His opinion matters more than either one of ours ... and he is a Republican.

2) He has publicly defended the scheme as recently as May. Trump still insists that Pence could have refused to count electoral votes from states they lost.

3) But Trump thought he did. Some degree of credit should go to Pence for not caving in to Trump's public pressure on a day when the Capitol was being overrun by an angry mob of Trump supporters ... some of whom were threatening Pence with violence.
 
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AM64 said:
In other words you'd agree that the prosecutor have all the time in the world to build a case, and the defense have none. One of the defendants has a couple of plays in motion: one to separate the trials and another to basically unseal all the records the defense holds. On the outside it would seem that if you try everybody together and follow the rules then each defendant has far more evidence due him/her than if they were tried separately - since each defendant should see all the prosecution has against all of them. In any case going through all the available records and developing a defense still takes time.

Seems like the defense should get all the time the prosecution took to put it all together ... and that would push things after the election unless they argue the prosecution didn't start until well after the election ... and that would beg the question of why they stalled until it would interfere with the upcoming election. Looks politically motivated because it is politically motivated.
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What. Trump has known cases where being built against him. Nothing stopped Trump and his team from working on the defense of all of his questionable (illegal) actions.
 
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luthervol said:
Trump tried to make a mockery of one of our most important and fundamental rights. The right to vote in a free and fair election.

It's kind of silly for Trump to whine about rights now.
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Mockery is a candidate in a basement being protected by protected questions and “bad feed” when things went off script.
 
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Majors said:
That doesn’t make me a hypocrite, it seems to say the opposite knowing now all that’s come out about Biden. So again, Trump was right.
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You can't have it both ways ... if it was fair to prosecute Biden in 2020 ... then it's fair to prosecute Trump now.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is wrong. Some of those electoral certificates stated they were already the lawfully chosen electors ... which was a lie.
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You got a link to the fake electors actual filing....cuz I find it funny that some states are not charging them because filing cleary states contingencies on the outcome of the court cases...so the places where they are being charged haven't down the actual filing that inhave found.
 
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Majors said:
You said I was having it both ways. Just said and seems you’re agreeing, Trump was right.
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I'm not addressing those allegations. I think that's BS, but that's not my point.

I'm saying that if you believe it was okay for Trump to publicly pressure his Attorney General into having Biden arrested in 2020 ... then you can't come back and say that it's wrong for Trump to be prosecuted now, just because he's running for President.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
You got a link to the fake electors actual filing....cuz I find it funny that some states are not charging them because filing cleary states contingencies on the outcome of the court cases...so the places where they are being charged haven't down the actual filing that inhave found.
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Yes, I do. Have posted before ... and will again!!!
 
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Majors said:
Those mentioned by him did run Russian Collusion for years with no integrity for truth. Rather chose opinions and media manipulation as their journalism while sitting on a sitting President with ties to foreign money. So you decide on the term legitimate.
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I try not to watch any of them from either side. My last MSNBC views were 20 years ago when Imus had the early morning show
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Thanks. I Haven't seem the actual paperwork, sent plenty of opinions but not the original s. If I doesn't state if it contingent upon. Then yes there is an issue...
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Page 4 ..... Arizona
Page 7 ..... Georgia
Page 17 ... Michigan
Page 28 ... Nevada
Page 45 ... Wisconsin

Page 25 .... New Mexico *
Page 32 .... Pennsylvania *

* New Mexico and Pennsylvania are the two states which did make contingencies, and have probably covered themselves legally. The five other states with "alternate electors" did not.
 
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Man, the TDS is strong...6.5 years seems a long time to have 90% of one's mental energy occupied by him.

It's freaking two days till kickoff! Come on y'all.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Man, the TDS is strong...6.5 years seems a long time to have 90% of one's mental energy occupied by him.

It's freaking two days till kickoff! Come on y'all.
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I assume you won't be commenting on politics anymore because it's two days til kickoff?

Do the Trump defenders still posting have tds too?
 
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