The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[volfanhill]

What? A president shouldn't be concerned about someone who attempts to steal an election?

Did Trump play a role in all of the false accusations?

Concern? Sure. Involve themselves? No

 

[clarksvol00]

When there is proof, it’s not as big of a deal. Only when the polls show that people believe it, does it become a scandal. See: 2019 Trump impeachment thread.

My, how the tables have turned.

 

[bamawriter]

In what free world is it OK for a President to play ANY role in bringing charges against his political adversary?

So a president's subordinates should not investigate a crime because the target of the investigation might decide to run against him?

 

[BowlBrother85]

He wasn’t charged because there was no evidence. There was no collusion. No Russian coup. Your side said it happened and it didn’t. Get over it.

You don't read the posts that you reply to. It doesn't matter if there was collusion. Collusion isn't a crime. The post you replied to, included a link to an article which says that. It also includes a quote from Robert Mueller, which explains that the probe centered around whether or not there was sufficient evidence to charge members of the 2016 Trump Campaign with being involved in a criminal conspiracy ... and Mueller determined that there wasn't. The people who continue to talk about collusion, are missing the whole point - and just look like idiots.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So Trump was right again. 51 intelligence agents were caught lying, after the fact of course in regards to Ukraine and a Burisma.

You can't have it both ways. If it's okay to prosecute Biden when he is running for President ... then the same is true for Trump.

You are probably too stupid to realize the hypocrisy of your position.

 

[evillawyer]

When you've lost Laura "Nazi Salute" Ingraham, you know you're probably not gonna convince many.

 

[AM64]

I would agree to that if Trump would agree to proceed as quickly as posible and to never request any type of delay.

In other words you'd agree that the prosecutor have all the time in the world to build a case, and the defense have none. One of the defendants has a couple of plays in motion: one to separate the trials and another to basically unseal all the records the defense holds. On the outside it would seem that if you try everybody together and follow the rules then each defendant has far more evidence due him/her than if they were tried separately - since each defendant should see all the prosecution has against all of them. In any case going through all the available records and developing a defense still takes time.

Seems like the defense should get all the time the prosecution took to put it all together ... and that would push things after the election unless they argue the prosecution didn't start until well after the election ... and that would beg the question of why they stalled until it would interfere with the upcoming election. Looks politically motivated because it is politically motivated.

 

[AM64]

Poll: 60% of Voters Say Joe Biden Had Role in Indicting Donald Trump​

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A strong majority of voters believe President Joe Biden played a role in indicting former President Donald Trump, a recent McLaughlin & Associates poll found.

The poll asked respondents, “And how much of a role would you say President Joe Biden has played in the indictments of former President Donald Trump?”

Poll: 60% of Voters Say Joe Biden Had Role in Indicting Donald Trump

A strong majority of voters believe President Joe Biden played a role in indicting former President Donald Trump.

www.breitbart.com

Wonder what email account(s) and name(s) joe used to drum up lawsuits against Trump. Of course, phone calls twisting arms and making promises in order to get suits against Trump would be not problematic.

 

[volfanhill]

I would agree to that if Trump would agree to proceed as quickly as posible and to never request any type of delay.

The least surprising thing is you advocating for someone to forfeit their rights

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

When your in the middle of the ocean and your ship is sinking, and you have duck tape, you fix what you can with what you have before you can buy a new ship...so dont vote, your choice, but ill try to fix what i can with what's available so we can survive.

???

 

[BowlBrother85]

Poll: 60% of Voters Say Joe Biden Had Role in Indicting Donald Trump​

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A strong majority of voters believe President Joe Biden played a role in indicting former President Donald Trump, a recent McLaughlin & Associates poll found.

The poll asked respondents, “And how much of a role would you say President Joe Biden has played in the indictments of former President Donald Trump?”

Poll: 60% of Voters Say Joe Biden Had Role in Indicting Donald Trump

A strong majority of voters believe President Joe Biden played a role in indicting former President Donald Trump.

www.breitbart.com

No chance that poll oversampled Republicans is there?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Concern? Sure. Involve themselves? No

How do you know that Biden involved himself?

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Democrats Denied Election Results 150+ Times Before Trump Election Indictment

Donald Trump was indicted for challenging the 2020 election result, but Democrats have refused to accept election results for decades.

www.breitbart.com

 

[C-south]

No chance that poll oversampled Republicans is there?

Probably a project veritas poll.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Probably a project veritas poll.

Still more integrity and objectivity then CNN, ABC, CBS MSNBC etc....

 

[BowlBrother85]

The filed paperwork stating "if" the legal challenges were won by Trump and the votes went for Trump the those were is electors....that why in PA the same scheme isn't being prosecuted...

That is wrong. Some of those electoral certificates stated they were already the lawfully chosen electors ... which was a lie.

 

[BowlBrother85]

How does the fake electors thing work? Serious question, were the "fake electors" alternate electors in case one of the lawsuits filed on Trump's behalf was successful or were they planning on somehow slipping their votes into the system?

The actual electors had already been lawfully chosen, in accordance with the outcome of the popular vote in each of their respective states.

These lawfully chosen slates of electors, who formed the 2020 electoral college, had already convened and voted on December 15th. The outcome of this voting, left Joe Biden with 306 electoral college votes. Thus, Biden had crossed the 270 threshold needed to win.

3 days later, on December 18, 2020, the Supreme Court declined to intervene in the outcome of the Presidential Election. This effectively ended any chance which Trump had of retaining the presidency.

As the alternate elector scheme was supposed to work, during the formal process of the electoral college certification on January 6th, Vice President Mike Pence would refuse to count electoral votes from 7 swing states which they had lost (who each have a Republican-controlled state legislature, by the way).

Supposedly, this would send those uncounted votes back to those Republican-controlled state legislatures, who would then select these new slates of electors, who had been hand-picked by the Trump Campaign to replace the already lawfully chosen electors. This was done with the understanding that these new Republican electors would then vote for Trump/Pence. Mike Pence would then call the new votes into roll, during certification.

However, there is nothing in the United States Constitution or Federal Election law which allows for any of this to take place.

This didn't involve waiting on a court ruling. It was about subverting an already determined outcome. There is no way in hell, that Republicans would be supportive of such an effort, if a Democrat ever tried to do the same thing.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Democrats Denied Election Results 150+ Times Before Trump Election Indictment

Donald Trump was indicted for challenging the 2020 election result, but Democrats have refused to accept election results for decades.

www.breitbart.com

LOL.

Donald Trump wasn't arrested for denying the results. What Trump did was illegal and unprecedented. Trump tried to overturn the outcome through illegal means.

1) Trump tried to pressure Georgia's Secretary of State into "finding" (altering) the popular vote count.

2) Trump spearheaded the alternate elector scheme, which involved the forging of electoral college certificates and colossal conflicts of interest.

3) Trump tried to pressure his Vice President into casting aside electoral votes from lawfully chosen electors, which Pence did not have the authority to do. The certification of the electoral college vote is just a procedural formality. It is not where the outcome is determined. It is where the results of the outcome are certified.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Republicans are FOS.

Yeah, everyone is lying but Trump

 

[rekinhavoc]

GOP Congressman Seeks to Cut Federal Funding For Candidate Prosecutions

Rep. Andrew Clyde wants to stop federal funding for prosecuting political figures before elections.

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[Sandman 423]

LOL.

Donald Trump wasn't arrested for denying the results. What Trump did was illegal and unprecedented. Trump tried to overturn the outcome through illegal means.

1) Trump tried to pressure Georgia's Secretary of State into "finding" (altering) the popular vote count.

2) Trump spearheaded the alternate elector scheme, which involved the forging of electoral college certificates and colossal conflicts of interest.

3) Trump tried to pressure his Vice President into casting aside electoral votes from lawfully chosen electors, which Pence did not have the authority to do. The certification of the electoral college vote is just a procedural formality. It is not where the outcome is determined. It is where the results of the outcome are certified.

1) I'm dumber for listening to that phone call but to say that he was pressuring him to find votes that weren't there is making a huge assumption based off of your own bias. I do think that they will convict him in this case, but I also think it will be overturned.

2) Trump isn't smart enough to have spearheaded such a scheme.

3) People keep acting like he stood up to Trump and did the right thing when he didn't have the power to reject the electors.

 

[Majors]

You can't have it both ways. If it's okay to prosecute Biden when he is running for President ... then the same is true for Trump.

You are probably too stupid to realize the hypocrisy of your position.

So Trump was right again. Got it.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Still more integrity and objectivity then CNN, ABC, CBS MSNBC etc....

So the outlets that you get your info are the most legitimate?

 

[Majors]

Yeah, everyone is lying but Trump

What does it take to be one of the 51 “intelligence officers” to sign off on something as true?

 

[BowlBrother85]

So Trump was right again. Got it.

That's irrelevant to the point ... If you are saying that it was okay for Trump to target Biden in 2020, but also saying that it's wrong for Trump to be targeted by Biden now .... that makes you a hypocrite.