The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[Septic]

Not asking for sympathy for Donny, asking that the American people get a free and fair election.

Between me and you, it amuses me to watch you trumpers fail to grasp the elementary concept of justice for the wronged being more important than the accused's personal aspirations.

The irony of you chirping about "free and fair" elections isn't lost on anyone here.

You're a victim, all trumpers are.

 

[Septic]

something is going on..the great resignation or people stopped looking. The UE rate has always been bogus..remember 2009..I bet it was 50% greater than the stats.

Quote: Among the drivers behind the drop in revenues highlighted by the CBO in its estimates is a 9 percent decline in individual income and payroll taxes, amounting to $313 billion.

Cite your source of this great conspiracy.

 

[jwilliams]

Trump's economic policies weren't sustainable

That's a very general statement. How so?

He has no idea to the details of why inflation exists nor the fact that it is almost always a lagging effect of previous policies

Primary drivers of inflation are increase in monetary supply and rising prices from higher production costs (eg, higher energy costs). Biden is causing this.

 

[Orangeburst]

Cite your source of this great conspiracy.

US government borrowed $1.6 trillion in past 10 months: estimate

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated Tuesday that the federal budget deficit reached $1.6 trillion in the 10-month period ending in July. The agency said the amount is more than double t…

thehill.com

 

[AM64]

Ah yes, my "never surrender" shirt with the picture of me ... from that time I surrendered to authorities.

What a big fat clown this guy is.

You do understand that a determination to never quit fighting (or never give up, or never surrender) is very different than being processed which is a mandatory step? There is no contradiction in terms.

 

[Orangeburst]

Cite your source of this great conspiracy.

the way they figure UE rate isnt a conspiracy..there are loopholes like I said
Participation rate is better reflection

 

[volgr]

“Huge reach” is saying Biden directed this based on polling data.

I know for a fact that the people now bitching didn’t care about DOJ independence under Trump because it was explicitly discussed in the first impeachment thread.

Huge reach because your ridiculous example isnt a good comparison.

 

[Septic]

US government borrowed $1.6 trillion in past 10 months: estimate

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated Tuesday that the federal budget deficit reached $1.6 trillion in the 10-month period ending in July. The agency said the amount is more than double t…

thehill.com

It wasn't hard to find out why, it's not very nefarious.

Deficit Tracker | Bipartisan Policy Center

Even as the U.S. economy expands, the federal government continues to run large and growing budget deficits that will soon exceed $1 trillion per…

bipartisanpolicy.org

Fiscal Year-to-Date Comparisons with FY2022

• Revenues were $3.7 trillion, a decrease of 10%, largely due to:
  • $313 billion (9%) decrease in individual income and payroll tax revenue. Of this amount, non-withheld payments of income and payroll taxes declined by $284 billion (26%), largely reflecting decreases in 2022 tax liabilities and delayed 2023 tax filings attributable to tax relief provided by the IRS for those affected by disaster situations. (Net receipts collected through July were approximately $300 billion less than prior CBO projections mainly because of weakened individual and corporate income tax revenue.)
  • $130 billion (59%) increase in individual income tax refunds.
  • $98 billion (99%) decrease in remittances from the Federal Reserve, as higher interest rates continued to raise the Fed’s interest expenses above its income and eliminate profits across most of its banks.
  • $16 billion (19%) decrease in customs duties due to a reduction in imports.
  • $12 billion (21%) decrease in unemployment insurance receipts, as states levied higher taxes on employers during FY2022 to replenish UI trust funds that were depleted from high unemployment during the pandemic. (These collections count towards federal revenue, as UI is a federal program administered by states.)

 

[AM64]

How is it a free and fair election if one of the candidates is facing convictions on multiple felonies? Given that he can't pardon himself for the GA state charges, what should happen to them if he gets elected? Is it acceptable to have a sitting President who is a convicted felon?

Should a minor jurisdiction be able to remove a nationally elected president from office? Fani is the Fulton Co DA. Not even a state official. Even under indictment, Trump is still presumed not guilty of the charges unless judged guilty ... and then there will be the challenges if that even happens. One thing about it, this could be an all new version of state's rights vs federalism ... with dems forced to defend the state rather than the federal government.

 

[lostsheep]

That's a very general statement. How so?



Primary drivers of inflation are increase in monetary supply and rising prices from higher production costs (eg, higher energy costs). Biden is causing this.

Correct on one (energy prices), but the other main cause was the backlog of work orders due to supply chain issues from the pandemic.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a great article, if you care to check it out.

 

[AM64]

Does the right care about the sanctity of the 6th Amendment and the right to a speedy trial?

Or do you toss out the Constitution when it doesn't suit your interest?

Maybe the left should have proceeded with more haste in preparing their case? Shouldn't have taken long if they actually had a factual basis to stand on. If you spend years cobbling together a bunch of hash to make something sound official, then the other side should absolutely have all the hash to go through and the same amount of time to unravel it before trial. Sounds a lot like the cases against Trump are very short on actual fact and use a lot of twisted logic to try and twist individual events into a conspiracy.

 

[Septic]

That's a very general statement. How so?



Primary drivers of inflation are increase in monetary supply and rising prices from higher production costs (eg, higher energy costs). Biden is causing this.

I wonder how the free $793B in PPP handouts affected inflation?

In fact most of the reasons for our current inflation problems are Covid shut down related.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[volgr]

Should a minor jurisdiction be able to remove a nationally elected president from office? Fani is the Fulton Co DA. Not even a state official. Even under indictment, Trump is still presumed not guilty of the charges unless judged guilty ... and then there will be the challenges if that even happens. One thing about it, this could be an all new version of state's rights vs federalism ... with dems forced to defend the state rather than the federal government.

I think it is quite apparent that most of the people using the "sanctity of elections" to try and beat Trump over the head with, dont actually give a damn about free and honest elections.

Keeping Trump from being President again is far more important to these people than the American people getting to participate in a free and fair election.

It is so transparent.

 

[volgr]

Maybe the left should have proceeded with more haste in preparing their case? Shouldn't have taken long if they actually had a factual basis to stand on. If you spend years cobbling together a bunch of hash to make something sound official, then the other side should absolutely have all the hash to go through and the same amount of time to unravel it before trial. Sounds a lot like the cases against Trump are very short on actual fact and use a lot of twisted logic to try and twist individual events into a conspiracy.

Interestingly, Trump buried the hatchet in regards to Hillary once he got into office and it was the right thing to do. However, he wasnt afforded the same kindness.

 

[hUTch2002]

Trump wanted more than Biden in Covid relief. He's just as responsible for inflation as Biden outside of energy inflation.

Trump calls Covid relief bill unsuitable and demands Congress add bigger stimulus payments

President Trump, in a stunning tweet, called the $900 billion Covid relief bill passed by Congress an unsuitable "disgrace."

www.cnbc.com

Neither are remotely fiscally conservative but you can’t gloss over energy inflation as that drives up the cost of everything.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

That's a very general statement. How so?



Primary drivers of inflation are increase in monetary supply and rising prices from higher production costs (eg, higher energy costs). Biden is causing this.

Ok, but the actual result is more demand than supply, created by an excess of cash against declining volumes in our supply chain. Before the pandemic, our growth slowed, and the ensuing shutdown created our inflation. Too much cash in the marketplace against a limited supply of goods and services

 

[AM64]

WTF billionaire needs to use a bond service to make bail???????????

Do you even know if Trump and the others were given the option of personally posting the bond without having to use a professional bonding service?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Do you even know if Trump and the others were given the option of personally posting the bond without having to use a professional bonding service?

Yes

 

[Majors]

Ah yes, my "never surrender" shirt with the picture of me ... from that time I surrendered to authorities.

What a big fat clown this guy is.

Speaking of clowns. Guy tweets about Trumps all day and still under 1M followers. Khaki, blazer and loose tie like he’s a pledge.

 

[bamawriter]

How is it a free and fair election if the current ruling party's leading opposition candidate cant freely campaign because he is mired in court cases for the better part of 2024?

So the executive branch (you know, the one that brings criminal charges) should choose not to pursue alleged criminal behavior because the target of their investigation chose to run for office? Trump choosing to run wasn't up to Biden or anyone in his administration (although they're clearly glad that he did).

 

[Septic]

I think it is quite apparent that most of the people using the "sanctity of elections" to try and beat Trump over the head with, dont actually give a damn about free and honest elections.

Keeping Trump from being President again is far more important to these people than the American people getting to participate in a free and fair election.

It is so transparent.

"frEe AnD fAiR"

Bro, you aren't convincing anyone that's what's at stake.

Donny is literally on trial because he wiped his ass with a free and fair election.

Move on, you look silly planting your flag on that hill.

 

[bamawriter]

Should a minor jurisdiction be able to remove a nationally elected president from office? Fani is the Fulton Co DA.

Even if convicted, the President is not automatically removed from office. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires that. We would simply have a convicted felon in the office of the presidency.

 

[RockyTop85]

Huge reach because your ridiculous example isnt a good comparison.

This is the kind of hard hitting analysis one expects from consumers of infowars.

It was obvious what he was doing when the readout of the call was published and he later came out and did it publicly. That didn’t even produce serious conversation on here because everybody had known he was pushing Barr to go after Biden for over a year at that point.

 

[AM64]

Even if convicted, the President is not automatically removed from office. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires that. We would simply have a convicted felon in the office of the presidency.

Hypothetically speaking. Suppose the president was found guilty and sentenced to prison? Does that render the local yokels impotent or remove the president from office? If it's the first why is short fat fani wasting taxpayer money?

 

[Septic]

Hypothetically speaking. Suppose the president was found guilty and sentenced to prison? Does that render the local yokels impotent or remove the president from office? If it's the first why is short fat fani wasting taxpayer money?

That would be AWESOME, he could do the State of the Union from "the yard."

I wonder if he'd get turned out right away or if the protective detail would have to guard Donny's commissary Ramen, Twinkies and King Don's from getting ganked by the other inmates.