The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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volgr said:
How could one argue against postponement?
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Quite easily. The fact that he appears to have a somewhat decent chance of being in a position to pardon himself makes a speedy trial that much more critical. Guilt and innocence should be decided by a jury, duly empaneled and presented with all admissible evidence. It should not be determined by the results of the electoral college.
 
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AM64 said:
Trump has had access to the AG's case longer than the AG? Show it. It's the case that matters - not how long someone has to ponder on how the prosecution might direct things.
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The evidence was in his personal residence from at least January of 2021.
 
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volgr said:
My answer would be, considering how rare this has happened in our history it would probably be best to consider on a case by case basis. However, we can, for now, deal with the actual case before us.
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And what we have right now to suggest that Trump is the leading candidate to take on Biden is polling. That's it. So you want to base at least this particular prosecutorial decision on polling.
 
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bamawriter said:
There is nothing stopping him right now. And yet he has made the conscious decision to campaign far less than his competitors.
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If the trial is held in 2024, which seems to be there transparent plan, then yes it will most definitely interfere with him being able to campaign.
 
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volgr said:
If the trial is held in 2024, which seems to be there transparent plan, then yes it will most definitely interfere with him being able to campaign.
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Then, given his massive lead that makes him so confident in his nomination that he won't even bother to show up at the debates, wouldn't it be the height of wisdom for Trump to be out campaigning against Biden right now while his docket it still wide open?
 
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volgr said:
I dont consume Infowars, I do however think Alex Jones was railroaded. Nice attempt to discredit though.

Yes it was obvious what he was doing as we now see the fruit of Biden's corruption in Ukraine. The Senate saw it as well as they didnt impeach Trump because he did nothing wrong.

It is a poor example because the thought of Biden running when Trump made the call to Z was laughable to most. At the time, the better argument that could be made was Trump trying to get revenge for the Russia collusion hoax.
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Well, you tried, but you regularly post bogus legal analysis from infowars contributors.

So what you’re saying is that if there was actual criminal activity (apparently something less than no grand jury indictment and hostile witnesses saying Joe wasn’t involved in driving prosecutions, but more than four grand jury indictments) then the president can be involved in prosecution decisions, but if the person is a legitimate candidate, based on some nebulous polling threshold, then the president shouldn’t be involved? That seems insanely contorted in a way that is awfully convenient. 😂

volgr said:
I am saying, we can debate if a candidate is polling at 1% or 10% or 25% is the appropriate number to delay a possible prosecution as to not interfere with an upcoming election...but for now, we know that Trump is the heavy favorite in every poll to win the GOP nomination and this is post announcement of every indictment. How could one argue against postponement?
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Nationwide opinion polling for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

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Biden was polling around 30% and was the leading candidate in all but one of these polls taken in July 2019, the month of the call.

Sorry, Infowars, time to come up with an even more convoluted answer that makes it acceptable when there is evidence of Trump doing it and unacceptable when there’s no evidence of Biden doing it.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Well, you tried, but you regularly post bogus legal analysis from infowars contributors.

So what you’re saying is that if there was actual criminal activity (apparently something less than no grand jury indictment and hostile witnesses saying Joe wasn’t involved in driving prosecutions, but more than four grand jury indictments) then the president can be involved in prosecution decisions, but if the person is a legitimate candidate, based on some nebulous polling threshold, then the president shouldn’t be involved? That seems insanely contorted in a way that is awfully convenient. 😂



Nationwide opinion polling for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

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Biden was polling around 30% at that time and was the leading candidate in all but one of these polls taken in July 2019, the month of the call.

Sorry, Infowars, time to come up with an even more convoluted answer that makes it acceptable when there is evidence of Trump doing it and unacceptable when there’s no evidence of Biden doing it.
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I refuse to engage with people who use infowars as a source. What Alex Jones did to those poor parents of Sandy Hook is beyond disgusting. Special place in hell for him. It's a relatively new approach I have taken here and it's improved this site immensely.
 
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volfanhill said:
I refuse to engage with people who use infowars as a source. What Alex Jones did to those poor parents of Sandy Hook is beyond disgusting. Special place in hell for him. It's a relatively new approach I have taken here and it's improved this site immensely.
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What did he do or maybe a better question what do you think he did?
 
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www.westernjournal.com

Judge Dismisses Lawsuit Against Trump, Rules Plaintiffs Lack Standing

"... an individual citizen does not have standing to challenge whether another individual is qualified to hold public office."
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Trump can’t be barred from Arizona’s 2024 ballot, says Democratic secretary of state

Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes (D) said he does not have the ability to bar former President Donald Trump from running for president in his state Wednesday. There have been calls to bar the former president from being able to run in 2024 related to language in the 14th amendment where...
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Georgia Sec. of State's Testimony Blows Up Fani Willis' Case

Former President Donald Trump did not ask Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to engage in any illegal conduct during the 2020 election, according to his testimony. The refutation of the claim that Trump asked to fraudulently "find votes" blows a gaping hole in the middle of Fulton...
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volgr said:
Bingo...

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Ha, ha---this is incredibly stupid. The reasoning here--and one can't really call it reasoning-- is that the U.S. states and the Federal government should ignore blatant lawbreaking by an individual because some rubes want to vote for him. Fortunately, we have the rule of law in this country--you know, the laws that rubes generally pay a lot of attention to when people they don't like are arrested and tried.
 
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Two Proud Boys members get lengthy prison terms for Capitol attack​

Dominic Pezzola sentenced to 10 years, Ethan Nordean sentenced to 18 for roles in 2021 insurrection
 
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volgr said:
I enjoy watching you waller around in your hypocrisy. Who is the wronged you speak of, in these Trump cases? This ought to be a fun answer.
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What hypocrisy?

Specifically.

The wronged is the GA electorate, who Trump attempted to usurp.
 
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