The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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0nelilreb said:
Federal Holidays are fun when you aren’t in logistics and supply . If you were , yes you’d bitch about it . lol
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The only reason logistics is even a problem is people don't plan properly, order to late, don't track inventory, etc. They then rush carriers to get stuff in to fix their problem. Unfortunately, my company does this crap all of the time...

Another reason is people just arbitrarily shoot to meet or beat KPIs so they look good.

BTW, you already have to deal with issues in logistics industry like Chinese New Year, Black Friday, etc. Weather also impacts things.
 
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hog88 said:
You're not in a service industry either.
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I can understand someone in retail, restaurant, etc. wanting to work that day. As he pointed out, it would NOT be required to get that day off and you could shift your employees schedules to allow them to go vote anyways.

I am making an assumption as the service industry is very broad.

Still there are clear ways around it. Also one day every four years... come on...
 
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volbound1700 said:
I can understand someone in retail, restaurant, etc. wanting to work that day. As he pointed out, it would NOT be required to get that day off and you could shift your employees schedules to allow them to go vote anyways.

I am making an assumption as the service industry is very broad.

Still there are clear ways around it. Also one day every four years... come on...
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Elections are every year, not every 4.

Every employee of mine has ample opportunity to vote if they so choose to do so without the government dictating it and we do not need to give government employees another paid day off.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The only reason logistics is even a problem is people don't plan properly, order to late, don't track inventory, etc. They then rush carriers to get stuff in to fix their problem. Unfortunately, my company does this crap all of the time...

Another reason is people just arbitrarily shoot to meet or beat KPIs so they look good.

BTW, you already have to deal with issues in logistics industry like Chinese New Year, Black Friday, etc. Weather also impacts things.
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With super loads , every federal holiday has restrictions. I can only move one half day before the holiday, I can’t move on the holiday and can’t move the half day after the holiday . So giving people a whole day off to vote ( for the good of the country ) knowing half won’t go vote anyway , costs two days of running . I can’t remember any of my family growing up complaining that they couldn’t find time to go and vote . I don’t have a problem since I vote in every state I’m in . 😂
 
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hog88 said:
Elections are every year, not every 4.

Every employee of mine has ample opportunity to vote if they so choose to do so without the government dictating it and we do not need to give government employees another paid day off.
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Well if you want to be technical, you have primaries as well so it is more common than once a year. Congressional is every 2 years, Senate every 6, President every 4. That covers National. Then you have State elections (Governor, Senate, Congress). Each State is different. Then you have city/county positions.

They all may have primary elections as well.

Again, you are being SELF-CENTERED. It may have nothing to do with your business. I think it is still needed for many people.
 
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0nelilreb said:
With super loads , every federal holiday has restrictions. I can only move one half day before the holiday, I can’t move on the holiday and can’t move the half day after the holiday . So giving people a whole day off to vote ( for the good of the country ) knowing half won’t go vote anyway , costs two days of running . I can’t remember any of my family growing up complaining that they couldn’t find time to go and vote . I don’t have a problem since I vote in every state I’m in . 😂
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Again, Europe, China, Japan, and most of the rest of the world have it even worse yet they still function fine. Sorry, lame excuse.

If you didn't see those nations close down for a week and still be fine, I would agree with you.

Also, it would be more than to find time to vote, we could have actual debates in the morning or meet the candidate events, etc. It opens the door for a lot of items.

Also, other nations do have Holidays for election day. Once again, very narrow minded view of the situation.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Well if you want to be technical, you have primaries as well so it is more common than once a year. Congressional is every 2 years, Senate every 6, President every 4. That covers National. Then you have State elections (Governor, Senate, Congress). Each State is different. Then you have city/county positions.

They all may have primary elections as well.

Again, you are being SELF-CENTERED. It may have nothing to do with your business. I think it is still needed for many people.
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I'm not being self centered. If you want to vote you will find a way to vote, it's you that is being self centered in demanding a day off.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Again, Europe, China, Japan, and most of the rest of the world have it even worse yet they still function fine. Sorry, lame excuse.

If you didn't see those nations close down for a week and still be fine, I would agree with you.

Also, it would be more than to find time to vote, we could have actual debates in the morning or meet the candidate events, etc. It opens the door for a lot of items.

Also, other nations do have Holidays for election day. Once again, very narrow minded view of the situation.
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I’m not talking about China , Japan or any other country . I’m talking about here and why it doesn’t make sense business wise . It’s not broken now , people that want to vote , will , those that don’t won’t . Stopping businesses from operating based on a few that want a whole day off so they go vote while making others sit without work , seems ridiculous to me .
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’m not talking about China , Japan or any other country . I’m talking about here and why it doesn’t make sense business wise . It’s not broken now , people that want to vote , will , those that don’t won’t . Stopping businesses from operating based on a few that want a whole day off so they go vote while making others sit without work , seems ridiculous to me .
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The guy must be a government employee.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Think beyond our politicians, though. The issue is on our society at large as well. I think there are deep, entrenched cultural mentalities in the average American that are inherently flawed. We need a different perspective of looking into things.

I do think elections need to be improved including having a National Holiday for elections, lining up elections to reduce the # of elections in order to create visibility, move away from 2-party system, have more debate forums with better access to the people and a push to encourage people to watch, don't cry over # of people voting... the mentality should been on quality over quantity when it comes to voters, and even have a small fact sheet next to each voter's name in the booth to explain their position. Let the candidate get a paragraph that we can put next to their name.

At the County level, I hate the regionality of the positions. It works for higher levels but you shouldn't have districts for School Board or County Commission. The entire county should be allowed to vote for their board and every commissioner.

The media is another problem. In theory, it shouldn't be but people just follow the media on both sides like zombies instead of doing their own research. The tldr mentality of Americans is another major issue. Americans with have strong position of stuff they haven't studied or researched.
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However elections are done it needs to be done so that people have confidence in the results. Right now that is not the case. It is going to lead to some major problems if one side starts to win every election and the other side thinks it is rigged. The elections may not be rigged but perception is reality.
 
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For some reason, I have always voted after leaving work for the day. If my employer gave me a day off to vote, then that would be groovy. Big corporations need to get more creative by offering a company wide beer day that does not deduct from your PTO. My department only and nobody else.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
For some reason, I have always voted after leaving work for the day. If my employer gave me a day off to vote, then that would be groovy. Big corporations need to get more creative by offering a company wide beer day that does not deduct from your PTO. My department only and nobody else.
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LOL
 
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hog88 said:
Elections are every year, not every 4.

Every employee of mine has ample opportunity to vote if they so choose to do so without the government dictating it and we do not need to give government employees another paid day off.
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Damn Hog you are a slave driver. lol. I can’t disagree with you.
 
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hog88 said:
The guy must be a government employee.
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I work as a Manager for a Major Manufacturing Company that is headquarter in Tennessee (you would know the company). I probably have more experience in logistics than either of you having worked with large global conglomerates such as Expeditors, Maersk, V. Alexander, Old Dominion, UPS, Flexport, etc. I also worked with another Global 200 Manufacturing company prior to my current one that is HQ in Tennessee.

I interact on a daily basis with China, Europe, Japan, South Korea, Latin America, and Canada.

One day isn't going to break the system. You both are just being babies.

I can somewhat understand someone in Service Industry complaining but most Service Industries stay open and don't close. Only major companies and government offices close and it is really up to the companies. I seriously don't see why you are whining.

It was also premised under the other points that I made. Just getting a day off would be useless if there wasn't more to it.
 
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hog88 said:
I have employees that live in TN, NC, GA, FL, TX, OK, OH, MO, NV, CT, IN, also most travel M-F during the week and in almost 30 years I can't recall a single one complaining about not having a chance to vote.

I had one in VA that bitched but I fired my brother.
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Remind me, you work in logistics?
 
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volbound1700 said:
I work as a Manager for a Major Manufacturing Company that is headquarter in Tennessee (you would know the company). I probably have more experience in logistics than either of you having worked with large global conglomerates such as Expeditors, Maersk, V. Alexander, Old Dominion, UPS, Flexport, etc. I also worked with another Global 200 Manufacturing company prior to my current one that is HQ in Tennessee.

I interact on a daily basis with China, Europe, Japan, South Korea, Latin America, and Canada.

One day isn't going to break the system. You both are just being babies.

I can somewhat understand someone in Service Industry complaining but most Service Industries stay open and don't close. Only major companies and government offices close and it is really up to the companies. I seriously don't see why you are whining.

It was also premised under the other points that I made. Just getting a day off would be useless if there wasn't more to it.
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I can’t speak for Hog only myself , I can assure you that I don’t speak to all those important people in all those countries like you do in your multinational company that ( we would know ) . I can also assure you of one thing mid level manager , if you see a semi with a loaded trailer being made to sit out travel time for some federal holiday , they are not doing it because they want to , or so they could go vote . They are actually losing money . Again that’s cute and I’m glad it works for all those other countries, it’s not broken here so why do we want to add yet more restrictions to people so others can sit at home ? I’ll say it again and try not to sound like a baby this time ..restricting me for two full days so less than half the population can go vote is stupid and illogical from a business stand point .
 
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