The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Sudden Impact said:
You are qualified to vote does not mean you are right, leave that to those that know the whole story and have seen more than just tribal President over the years.
Trump is not a common man and listens to nobody's ideas and thoughts but their own.
Trump negotiated with terrorists one known for sure and more than likely others that are unknown.
This is your idea of Presidential and leadership and protecting Americans? Trump does what is best for Trump. 9/11 he practically surrendered to the Taliban at Camp David. I guess that is ok with you. Well, it is Trump doing Trump, Trump negotiates with Terrorists on 9/11 is a spit in the face. I guess it is ok with you... Yes, Brainwashed enough that you can not see the facts.

OBTW experts that say some men can get pregnant, common sense would tell me they are not experts, shifting the discussion is a little immature. I would not call them experts but you might.
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Just to clarify. I am not a fan of Trump and I severely dislike his personality, arrogance, and ego. But when it comes to a choice between a mindless, amoral, snake like Joe Biden and an egotistical blowhard who at least stands for something, i know which way to vote.
A magic eight ball would make a better President than Biden.
 
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#17,103
Sudden Impact said:
I guess you think you offered your expert opinion. Presidential historians are a little more qualified than you are, but keep dreaming that your opinion matters. Step away from the cliff. Try living in Reality vs media based tribal opinions. If you think Covid was Trump's downfall then you have a lot to learn.
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"qualified"? What does that even mean? The historian's opinion doesn't 'matter'. It's just an opinion.

Trump's downfall (in the first election) was a corrupt and complicit media and a national psychosis toward a single man's antics to the point that enough the proletariat (allegedly) voted him out of office. ... and here we are. Failing economy, failed foreign policy, in the middle of two wars, national sovereignty in jeopardy... all because you and the rest of your ilk couldn't handle a little hurt feelings.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Just to clarify. I am not a fan of Trump and I severely dislike his personality, arrogance, and ego. But when it comes to a choice between a mindless, amoral, snake like Joe Biden and an egotistical blowhard who at least stands for something, i know which way to vote.
A magic eight ball would make a better President than Biden.
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I don't disagree but to offer Biden as an excuse for Trump completely misses the point and offers nothing to the conversation. Telling most what they already know is just an argument of deflection. Again, create a thread for Biden and keep it simple. I will not defend him either, but to defend Trump with Biden is simply stating I am voting for Trump because I don't want Biden. It's ok but don't be blinded by Trump's incompetence.
The other deflection on this board is to attack the post and poster of the post. One should expect it when you post on an open forum. I am not accusing you of doing so, but others are pretty sad.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
"qualified"? What does that even mean? The historian's opinion doesn't 'matter'. It's just an opinion.

Trump's downfall (in the first election) was a corrupt and complicit media and a national psychosis toward a single man's antics to the point that enough the proletariat (allegedly) voted him out of office. ... and here we are. Failing economy, failed foreign policy, in the middle of two wars, national sovereignty in jeopardy... all because you and the rest of your ilk couldn't handle a little hurt feelings.
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see above. That is all you got. Take it to mommy.
159 Presidential Historians that are paid to follow this vs a few that think they know everything. Job vs couch potatoes

Game time --- Enjoyed the time/conversation.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
That is why he is his 41 out of 44. The experts and facts to disagree with you on this one. Some ranked him 45th and another ranked him the third worse. Not anywhere close to one of the best and you can blame Covid but historians, Presidential authorities and other groups went beyond just calling it Covid. Covid is an excuse for brainwashed followers who refuse to see the facts. Yes, I do agree Covid played into the equation and would not have done so had he handled in a proper manner. The thing with Covid was his flip flopping before he had Covid to after he had it. Poor self serving leader.
His first term was chaotic which was not all his fault but leaders don't let crap get out of hand. His record is 4-8.
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What qualifications does one need to be a “presidential authority”?
 
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Sudden Impact said:
see above. That is all you got. Take it to mommy.
159 Presidential Historians that are paid to follow this vs a few that think they know everything. Job vs couch potatoes

Game time --- Enjoyed the time/conversation.
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Your argument is an appeal of authority with is an argumentative fallacy and mean nothing. Most that take those positions are former and current History professors from universities. From there we all know an insane amount of professors at universities are liberal and fight for liberal causes. So it make sense form liberal leaving historians to be against DJT especially these days as most just follow the pack.
 
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hog88 said:
What qualifications does one need to be a “presidential authority”?
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Jobs paid for with Taxpayers dollars that are there solely for recording historical events and data as it pertains to the President, the Cabinet and Congress. Historians. Qualifications are numerous not just your average joe
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Your argument is an appeal of authority with is an argumentative fallacy and mean nothing. Most that take those positions are former and current History professors from universities. From there we all know an insane amount of professors at universities are liberal and fight for liberal causes. So it make sense form liberal leaving historians to be against DJT especially these days as most just follow the pack.
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is this stated to minimize the truth. the have legitimate positions.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Jobs paid for with Taxpayers dollars that are there solely for recording historical events and data as it pertains to the President, the Cabinet and Congress. Historians. Qualifications are numerous not just your average joe
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No they ain't. It's almost entirely liberal college professors/former profrssors that come up with these lists.....
 
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Sudden Impact said:
is this stated to minimize the truth. the have legitimate positions.
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No it's stated to resent a poor argument from authority (yours) and why it's flawed. The fact your not denying it says everything about what I said was correct and undeniable...so if left leaning bias is present in a JOB the ranks political success as POTUS then why would anyone but a leftist accept that...which you did another of your super center beliefs..keep swinging and your TDS will get better..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
No it's stated to resent a poor argument from authority (yours) and why it's flawed. The fact your not denying it says everything about what I said was correct and undeniable...so if left leaning bias is present in a JOB the ranks political success as POTUS then why would anyone but a leftist accept that...which you did another of your super center beliefs..keep swinging and your TDS will get better..
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No TDS...Just see your hero for what he his.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Example of how stupid these rankings are

www.google.com

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war
www.google.com www.google.com
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They even admit that the ranking change based on the political climate of today..which is dumb AF it should be based on the ability to push the US forward during their presidency not but todayoral standards which are several political
 
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