The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[Septic]

Oh, so that is the difference. There is NO QUESTION that what Biden did was illegal. But he said "I'm sorry", and gave them back, and that makes it alllll OK. Trump had at least some sort of potential to have them, (even though it might be questionable) but because he fought the contention that he didn't, he was murdering your dog. Got it. Shoot someone and just say you're sorry, and it's all OK as long as you are a democrat, but if your name is Trump you have to be lily white about your entire life.

The difference is that the 'basic compliance' you refer to in Biden's case was an out and out criminal act. No question. Why hasn't he been indicted? Oh.. because he is too old and feeble.... right.

You keep trying to make a distinction and not being genuine in the understanding that high level politicians aren't going to be charged unless they outright snub the .gov.

Biden complied, trump didn't - pretending trumps a victim after lying and conspiring to a federal a law enforcement agency is what got him. Stop being disingenuous in what occurred and trying to compare apples and bananas, it's a losing position that an educated person like yourself ought to be able to recognize and admit. The cover up is ALWAYS worse than the crime.

At any rate, it would seem that the crux of your support for trump is based solely on whatabouting while ever failing to recognize that 'yeah, trump fuqd up.' That ought to be the first step in your road to rational thought.

 

[GVF]

Well, just because no one suffered a particular damage does not mean a crime was not committed. For example, you randomly shoot at someone and miss, but just because you missed does not mean you did not commit a crime. Here, Trump and his team tried to hide the payment to Daniels, first with an NDA (which is legal) but second by cooking the books to hide the fact of the payment (which is illegal).

Having said that, for purposes of sentencing I agree that the fact that no one was injured materially matters and will help Trump. I don't think this should result in jail time. I also agree that in terms of politics its not going to be meaningful to Trump voters because its not like the first time Trump's very poor and weak character has been exposed. This is just one more in a long line of examples of that and won't change anything.

Character used to matter to Republicans. Used to.



DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."

RICHARD NIXON (1913-1994)
"With all the power that a President has, the most important thing to bear in mind is this: You must not give power to a man unless, above everything else, he has character. Character is the most important qualification the President of the United States can have."

Criminal Son
Hoarding your own illegal docs in your garage
Cocaine in the WH

Atleast at some point character did once matter to a Republican.

 

[Septic]

God forbid that peeps recognize the umpteen TRILLION dollars of M1 injected into the economy PLUS effectively ZERO interest rates might have an inflationary effect.

That PPP money... how many folks I know who bought a new (2nd) house thanks to it. *cough*

NGL, that PPP money was fun.

Thanks tax payers!

 

[GVF]

You keep trying to make a distinction and not being genuine in the understanding that high level politicians aren't going to be charged unless they outright snub the .gov.

Biden complied, trump didn't - pretending trumps a victim after lying and conspiring to a federal a law enforcement agency is what got him. Stop being disingenuous in what occurred and trying to compare apples and bananas, it's a losing position that an educated person like yourself ought to be able to recognize and admit. The cover up is ALWAYS worse than the crime.

At any rate, it would seem that the crux of your support for trump is based solely on whatabouting while ever failing to recognize that 'yeah, trump fuqd up.' That ought to be the first step in your road to rational thought.

But, if it's Trump, no one is above the law period. Unless your a Dem. See epstein's pedophile list. Oh yeah. The dems blocked that.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The Great Stormy Daniels is a hooker?

You hooked on the wench?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Just about any entity with a three letter abbreviation.

Uh huh. He was specifically talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment, which isn't going anywhere. Fear mongering and ignorance of the highest order

 

[85SugarVol]

fify, and answer is no

So there hasn’t been a Democratic nominee for President that has been pursued by a Republican DOJ and Republican DAs in multiple courts.

Yea, I didn’t think I remembered any.

 

[utvolpj]

Uh huh. He was specifically talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment, which isn't going anywhere. Fear mongering and ignorance of the highest order

They won't demolish it all at once. How do you eat an elephant? Trump even took a bite

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

They won't demolish it all at once. How do you eat an elephant? Trump even took a bite

Silly. In some states the 2A has gotten stronger than ever

 

[Septic]

But, if it's Trump, no one is above the law period. Unless your a Dem. See epstein's pedophile list. Oh yeah. The dems blocked that.

Trump has been above the law until his shenanigans landed him in front of a jury.

I get it though, nothing is ever his fault. He's a saint.

What you guys keep failing to grasp is that even though he was targeted (absolutely was) he still broke the law. The former doesn't absolve the latter.

Let that sink in.

 

[sonofUT62]

Silly. In some states the 2A has gotten stronger than ever

It doesnt feel like a God given and protected right when the thread adjacent to this one involves the ATF killing someone after a no knock. Just me.

 

[TN Ribs]

When they do away with the 2A there won't even be that.

They Khmer Rouge is in DC now... fully ensconced.

Congratulations snowflake, you win the award for the Most Melodramatic Post of the Year.

 

[ETV]

It's still astonishing to me that grown-ups still equate what president we have with gas prices and inflation.

It's as low level of thinking as it is to ascribe the tanked economy in 2020 with Trump solely and not the effects of covid.

These presidents love to take credit for the low cost of fuel and low inflation numbers when it can provide a boost to their polling numbers.

 

[Septic]

These presidents love to take credit for the low cost of fuel and low inflation numbers when it can provide a boost to their polling numbers.

Politicians gonna politic.

They rely on the ignorance of the electorate.

 

[utvolpj]

Silly. In some states the 2A has gotten stronger than ever

By stste, not federal.

Yet it's still under attack. Take out enough rivals and we'll see how it goes. It's why we need more people who believe in freedom in office

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You keep trying to make a distinction and not being genuine in the understanding that high level politicians aren't going to be charged unless they outright snub the .gov.

Biden complied, trump didn't - pretending trumps a victim after lying and conspiring to a federal a law enforcement agency is what got him. Stop being disingenuous in what occurred and trying to compare apples and bananas, it's a losing position that an educated person like yourself ought to be able to recognize and admit. The cover up is ALWAYS worse than the crime.

At any rate, it would seem that the crux of your support for trump is based solely on whatabouting while ever failing to recognize that 'yeah, trump fuqd up.' That ought to be the first step in your road to rational thought.

and there it is.... discounting the illegal act because it is only 'whataboutism'.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Politicians gonna politic.

They rely on the ignorance of the electorate.

No shortage of that on the left.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Silly. In some states the 2A has gotten stronger than ever

I am a 2A advocate. That being said, Constitutional carry is a scary thing.

 

[85SugarVol]

The way to begin the unification of this country is by ridding it of trumpism.

Trumpism at it's very core was intent on dividing this country.

No one who supports trump should ever talk about unity because that is the opposite of trumpism.

The way to begin the unification of Israel is to simply rid it of the Palestinians.

There can only be unity, once I completely vanquish my opponent.
- Luther

 

[volgr]

I see. You wanted slavery and its associated privileges, benefits and abuses, to continue, so America isn't America without this reality. And that's what states rights really mean to Confederates and rightists. At least you confess that much truth.

Lincoln was going to allow slavery to continue, dumb dumb, if it meant keeping the Confederate States in the Union. They still left. There goes your illogical leftist talking point.

Want to take another swing with those soft non-calloused woman hands?

 

[RockyTop85]

What kinda hooker waits 10 years to get paid...dumbass

A poor one.

 

[luthervol]

if you can rig an election - you can rig a jury.

Hey look..........Bigfoot,

and he's riding a unicorn

 

[orangotango]

 

[luthervol]

No. She's a whore. There is a subtle difference.

Which intrigued the hell out of trump.

 

[Cod]

You keep trying to make a distinction and not being genuine in the understanding that high level politicians aren't going to be charged unless they outright snub the .gov.

Biden complied, trump didn't - pretending trumps a victim after lying and conspiring to a federal a law enforcement agency is what got him. Stop being disingenuous in what occurred and trying to compare apples and bananas, it's a losing position that an educated person like yourself ought to be able to recognize and admit. The cover up is ALWAYS worse than the crime.

At any rate, it would seem that the crux of your support for trump is based solely on whatabouting while ever failing to recognize that 'yeah, trump fuqd up.' That ought to be the first step in your road to rational thought.

The issue is Trump was Pres, Biden was VP and should never have ever had them in the first place.

With that said, Yes Trump should of said "Yes, come get them now please!"