The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

[Septic]

and there it is.... discounting the illegal act because it is only 'whataboutism'.

Your tribalism blinds you.

Senators, VP's and Presidents aren't going to get prosecuted for having a document(s) in they're inadvertently in possession of that they shouldn't, so long as they're given back - irrespective of party affiliation, that's not discounting the act - it's living in reality. Frankly, i wouldn't g.a.s. if Biden and trump shared a cell for being guilty of having these documents - but that's not the point.

You want to make terrible comparisons and whatabout -but you've completely refused to recognize or admit that Trump broke the law - not just by lying about it but by also illegally possessing it. And no, it wasn't declassified.

Doubling and tripling down on disingenuity isn't a good look man.

 

[LibertyVol]

This is why Partisanship is a problem in this nation and George Washington was clearly against it.

If Biden was on trial right now in the same spot, the MAGA people would be cheering for conviction as well.

People don't focus on the system and doing what is right. While there is some evidence against Trump in this case, it needs to be done fairly. The judge should have let in the expert witness and should have given the jury instruction. It was the RIGHT thing to do.

1. A wrong thing done in a right way is wrong. 2. A right thing done in a wrong way is wrong. 3. A wrong thing done in a wrong way is wrong.
4.A right thing done in a right way is right.

I feel safe in saying, I don’t think we have a right thing done in a right way in this instance.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Which intrigued the hell out of trump.

So?

 

[Septic]

The issue is Trump was Pres, Biden was VP and should never have ever had them in the first place.

With that said, Yes Trump should of said "Yes, come get them now please!"

Agreed. But apparently, Trump wasn't supposed to have them either.

Had trump said come get them and not lied, he'd have also gotten a pass like Biden did.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Your tribalism blinds you.

Senators, VP's and Presidents aren't going to get prosecuted for having a document(s) in their possession that they shouldn't. Irrespective of party affiliation, that's not discounting the act - it's living in reality. Frankly, i wouldn't g.a.s. if Biden and trump shared a cell for being guilty of having these documents - but that's not the point.

You want to make terrible comparisons and whatabout -but you've completely refused to recognize or admit that Trump broke the law - not just by lying about it but by also illegally possessing it. And no, it wasn't declassified.

Doubling and tripling down on disingenuity isn't a good look man.

Too bad you see it that way. I just want the law equally applied, and it hasn't for going on 4 years now.

 

[McDad]

I was pointing out that it wasn't significant......in a subtle and polite way.

Should have been more direct.....
That picture is in no way a rebuttal to the shameful fact that millions of people worship trump - the horrendously despicable human.

Great. It wasn't meant to be a rebuttal. You took it the wrong way and wanted me to fix what you got wrong. Tough ask.

Glad we're on the same page.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Agreed. But apparently, Trump wasn't supposed to have them either.

Had trump said come get them and not lied, he'd have also gotten a pass like Biden did.

No he wouldn't have and you know it. "We're gonna get that ************" has been the rally cry for 8 years.

 

[McDad]

But trump was the non-politician.

Turns out trumo has all of the worst qualities of the average politician with none of the good ones.

He was.
Now he isn't.

It's a continuum of time and duties.

 

[hog88]

You keep trying to make a distinction and not being genuine in the understanding that high level politicians aren't going to be charged unless they outright snub the .gov.

Biden complied, trump didn't - pretending trumps a victim after lying and conspiring to a federal a law enforcement agency is what got him. Stop being disingenuous in what occurred and trying to compare apples and bananas, it's a losing position that an educated person like yourself ought to be able to recognize and admit. The cover up is ALWAYS worse than the crime.

At any rate, it would seem that the crux of your support for trump is based solely on whatabouting while ever failing to recognize that 'yeah, trump fuqd up.' That ought to be the first step in your road to rational thought.

Trump did comply, even allowed a team to come in an inventory and returned several boxes.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I had zero sympathy for Bill Clinton when he cheated on his wife and lied about it. He deserved every bit of the humiliation he got and more. Personal integrity mattered then.

I have zero sympathy for Donald Trump when he cheated on his wife and lied about it. He deserves every bit of humiliation he gets and more. Personal integrity still matters.

Let's stop electing people at all levels, from the mayor and city council to the President, who have zero personal integrity.

 

[luthervol]

The way to begin the unification of Israel is to simply rid it of the Palestinians.

There can only be unity, once I completely vanquish my opponent.
- Luther

What? Most Palestinians aren't for the annihilation of Israel.

Massive swing and a miss.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I had zero sympathy for Bill Clinton when he cheated on his wife and lied about it. He deserved every bit of the humiliation he got and more. Personal integrity mattered then.

I have zero sympathy for Donald Trump when he cheated on his wife and lied about it. He deserves every bit of humiliation he gets and more. Personal integrity still matters.

Let's stop electing people at all levels, from the mayor and city council to the President, who have zero personal integrity.

so you are an anarchist?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

What? Most Palestinians aren't for the annihilation of Israel.

Massive swing and a miss.

Yet 70% support Hamas. yeah OK. Go back to sleep Felicia.

And there is no such place as Palestine.

 

[Septic]

Too bad you see it that way. I just want the law equally applied, and it hasn't for going on 4 years now.

How can you know if it wasn't applied equally in this case?

Both men were in possession of documents they weren't allowed to have.

One gave them back, the other didn't and lied about it.

It's not a difficult situation to dissect.

 

[hog88]

I am a 2A advocate. That being said, Constitutional carry is a scary thing.

Why?

 

[luthervol]

So?

So nothing. Simply stating a fact....trump loves him some stormy types...and Bannon....and Stone.....and Cohen

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

How can you know if it wasn't applied equally in this case?

Both men were in possession of documents they weren't allowed to have.

One gave them back, the other didn't and lied about it.

It's not a difficult situation to dissect.

OK. Where are the indictments of Biden? Show those to me and I'll eat all the crow you can serve up.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Why?

I think everyone should have some level of basic training on firearm safety. Even at that, I have seen 'trained' people do stupid things with guns.

 

[volgr]

Agreed. But apparently, Trump wasn't supposed to have them either.

Had trump said come get them and not lied, he'd have also gotten a pass like Biden did.

Trump was the Executive. The Executive holds all power relating to classification. All documents he left with, he is supposed to have.

Now, one could argue in the court of public opinion how irresponsible Trump may have been in taking certain documents and how irresponsible it would be to elect him again, but it isnt a crime for the Executive to take documents when he is President.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

So nothing. Simply stating a fact....trump loves him some stormy types...and Bannon....and Stone.....and Cohen

OK... just more of your insipidness.

 

[GordonC]

He was.
Now he isn't.

It's a continuum of time and duties.

dam u

 

[hog88]

I think everyone should have some level of basic training on firearm safety. Even at that, I have seen 'trained' people do stupid things with guns.

Freedom is a dangerous thing.

 

[Cod]

Agreed. But apparently, Trump wasn't supposed to have them either.

Had trump said come get them and not lied, he'd have also gotten a pass like Biden did.

But there is a gray area with a President and declassifying.... I think that is where the issue is at, what can a Pres declassify, how can he, who when where what

I agree he should have had them in boxes ready to surrender them.

Biden and Trump aren't the only ones, who else has these documents that do not need them nor have the clearances to even possess them, that whole **** show needs mopped up.

 

[85SugarVol]

What? Most Palestinians aren't for the annihilation of Israel.

Well that’s wrong, but not the point.

I got a chuckle out of you declaring the way to unify - is to simply rid yourself of the other side

Yea man, that’ll do it every time lol

 

[sonofUT62]

I think everyone should have some level of basic training on firearm safety. Even at that, I have seen 'trained' people do stupid things with guns.

Whats the ratio of homicides carried out by trained forces acting on behalf of the government vs armed amateurs with no training??? Cletus carrying at the Piggly Wiggly isnt the problem.