The Masters

#228
#228
doozer said:
BPV i hate you so much right now. :hi:

you staying for the weekend?
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yes, I'm here for the weekend. It'll take me a week to recover. Spend my weekends here perched at 11 green, behind 12th tee or back and forth between 13 and 15.
 
#229
#229
volfanbill said:
nah, didn't even hit the green. It's a configuration where you walk about 1/3 of the way back down the left side of the sixth fairway to tee off on 7. 6 green is on a hill and the hill continues to rise on the right side of it. Landed at the crest of the hill above the green. 7 doglegs 90 degrees to the right and up the back part of the same hill so I actually had a pretty easy approach in. Did make a divot on the approach in case that's what you meant (and yes i PROPERLY repaired it. nothing upsets me more than people who don't know how to properly fix divots).

BTW, i'm with doozer. I won't say hate, but I'm beyond envious of you at the moment. Stay dry tomorrow though.
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I was talking about a divot in the green and assumed you did not.

as for envious, don't be. I forego other sports for golf. The beauty of this place that you can't appreciate on TV is the utter lack of commercialization, when compared to other huge events. Puts all other events to shame and the egg salad sammies are incredible, especially at $1.25 per.
 
#230
#230
no no.. i'm pretty sure I'm envious. I've seen fully blown up digital photos of the place and not even HDTV gives the fairways enough justice. I can only imagine what it's like in person.
 
#232
#232
volfanbill said:
no no.. i'm pretty sure I'm envious. I've seen fully blown up digital photos of the place and not even HDTV gives the fairways enough justice. I can only imagine what it's like in person.
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the slope in the fairways don't get justice, but the slope in the greens is ridiculous and they look flat on TV
 
#233
#233
BigPapaVol said:
the slope in the fairways don't get justice, but the slope in the greens is ridiculous and they look flat on TV
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It is very difficult to notice the how the greens are turtleback greens at Augusta. Of course, it's difficult to notice that Pinehurst is the same way.

Hopefully one day I will get to see both firsthand.
 
#234
#234
volfanbill said:
It is very difficult to notice the how the greens are turtleback greens at Augusta. Of course, it's difficult to notice that Pinehurst is the same way.

Hopefully one day I will get to see both firsthand.
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pinehurst is turtlebacked, Augusta is just absurdly sloped.
 
#236
#236
let me hear what you all think is going to happen this weekend.

i'm kind of under the impression that some of the guys atop the board my come back some tomorrow, or at least that's what i gather from the guys on TV. is that accurate? what will it take to win?
 
#237
#237
doozer said:
let me hear what you all think is going to happen this weekend.

i'm kind of under the impression that some of the guys atop the board my come back some tomorrow, or at least that's what i gather from the guys on TV. is that accurate? what will it take to win?
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anything can happen because putters are the ultimate equalizer.

Immelman will slide because he's an awful putter and the pressure likely shells Snedeker.

If it rains, the bombers are going to come ripping to the top (Tiger, Mickelson, Singh types). If it doesn't, the highball hitter that remains conservative and makes a load of 8-10 footers will be there. Sounds cliche', but the guy that just takes what the greens give him, stays below the hole, avoids 3 putts and makes the 10'ers and in is likely the winner. The guys forced to be late weekend aggressors will post high numbers. Those back 9 30s just aren't on this course, unless someboday makes some bombs.

Mickelson hit it well on the range as did Retief again.
Mickelson hit some flops on the range that actually backed up.
 
#238
#238
BigPapaVol said:
anything can happen because putters are the ultimate equalizer.

Immelman will slide because he's an awful putter and the pressure likely shells Snedeker.

If it rains, the bombers are going to come ripping to the top (Tiger, Mickelson, Singh types). If it doesn't, the highball hitter that remains conservative and makes a load of 8-10 footers will be there. Sounds cliche', but the guy that just takes what the greens give him, stays below the hole, avoids 3 putts and makes the 10'ers and in is likely the winner. The guys forced to be late weekend aggressors will post high numbers. Those back 9 30s just aren't on this course, unless someboday makes some bombs.

Mickelson hit it well on the range as did Retief again.
Mickelson hit some flops on the range that actually backed up.
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do you really think Tiger can overcome that kind of comeback even if the rains come? He's got to get his driver straighter regardless of what the rains possibly do. Immelman might slide, but I don't see a 3 or 4 over day tomorrow for him.
 
#239
#239
BigPapaVol said:
Sounds cliche', but the guy that just takes what the greens give him, stays below the hole, avoids 3 putts and makes the 10'ers and in is likely the winner. The guys forced to be late weekend aggressors will post high numbers. Those back 9 30s just aren't on this course, unless someboday makes some bombs.
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with this kind of quote and I'm shocked to be saying this, Mickelson sounds like a favorite and Tiger could be in some serious trouble. Tiger should have about 4 holes under his belt before Immelman even tees off. That's not good for Tiger because he's going to have no idea how he needs to play. I can guarantee though that he'll be scoreboard watching so he knows how he must play Amen Corner.
 
#240
#240
volfanbill said:
do you really think Tiger can overcome that kind of comeback even if the rains come? He's got to get his driver straighter regardless of what the rains possibly do. Immelman might slide, but I don't see a 3 or 4 over day tomorrow for him.
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Immelman's a very good ballstriker, but his putting has made him a mediocre golfers. He's the South African version of Sergio. He loses his putter, he's toast. Honestly, anybody here is very capable of posting 78, because the track is brutal.

Sat is generally Tiger's day here. However, if it's gonna be, his driver and putter need to behave better.
 
#241
#241
i was thinking myself that i liked Mickelson at -5 right now. i didn't hear him getting too much run on any of the recap shows though. and Tiger just sits 4 behind him right now.
 
#242
#242
BigPapaVol said:
Immelman's a very good ballstriker, but his putting has made him a mediocre golfers. He's the South African version of Sergio. He loses his putter, he's toast. Honestly, anybody here is very capable of posting 78, because the track is brutal.

Sat is generally Tiger's day here. However, if it's gonna be, his driver and putter need to behave better.
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Soaked greens will only make putting easier, unless they just become brutally slow. But that would seemingly hurt everyone.
 
#243
#243
volfanbill said:
with this kind of quote and I'm shocked to be saying this, Mickelson sounds like a favorite and Tiger could be in some serious trouble. Tiger should have about 4 holes under his belt before Immelman even tees off. That's not good for Tiger because he's going to have no idea how he needs to play. I can guarantee though that he'll be scoreboard watching so he knows how he must play Amen Corner.
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I'd make Mickelson the favorite right now.

Youknow, I know and all the players know that if Tiger gets it rolling, everybody tends to come back to him. It's the Nicklaus advantage.
 
#245
#245
BigPapaVol said:
I'd make Mickelson the favorite right now.

Youknow, I know and all the players know that if Tiger gets it rolling, everybody tends to come back to him. It's the Nicklaus advantage.
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that's true and I thought about that. But coming back to him with 7 strokes just seems hard to do. I could see him losing maybe 3-4 tomorrow, but I can't see him losing 8 over two days. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. (note, i'm not rooting for a nonamerican necessarily, I just like to see change at the top of the leaderboard. I also think if Tiger loses the Masters, he'll go on an unbelievable run the rest of the season the likes of which the sportsworld has never before seen because he won't have any pressure)
 
#246
#246
volfanbill said:
that's true and I thought about that. But coming back to him with 7 strokes just seems hard to do. I could see him losing maybe 3-4 tomorrow, but I can't see him losing 8 over two days. Perhaps I'm too optimistic. (note, i'm not rooting for a nonamerican necessarily, I just like to see change at the top of the leaderboard. I also think if Tiger loses the Masters, he'll go on an unbelievable run the rest of the season the likes of which the sportsworld has never before seen because he won't have any pressure)
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I like Snedeker better than Immelman because he's a 2389542 times better putter. Shaky putting catches up over 4 days.

I don't like Tiger's chances now, but I'm not looking where the leaders are. I'm looking at the other contenders, who aren't ver far away.
 
#247
#247
BigPapaVol said:
I don't like Tiger's chances now, but I'm not looking where the leaders are. I'm looking at the other contenders, who aren't ver far away.
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Have you been able to see Mike Weir any? at 3 under he's definitely not out of this and he certainly plays well at Augusta.
 
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