The NCAA Rules Committee is at it again....

#227
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crusse10 said:
you get a thumbs up for me from being the first correct user of dominate/dominant that I've read on message boards in days.
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crusse10 said:
I believe it's more because people hear it as "dämənət" instead of "dämənənt", so they think that it's spelled dominate and that both words are spelled the same

(meaning they don't don't hear a second "n" therefore don't think it exists)
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crusse10 said:
That upsets me so much that I've basically moved on from it to other things. Dominant/Dominate and "I could care less" are near the top of my list now.

I always say something like "oh could you? Just how much less could you care?"
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At least check your typos if your gonna go off about grammar. Just sayin' :D

EDIT: Ironically, I failed and put your instead of you're on the second one :D
 
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#228
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Strickland said:
At least check your typos if your gonna go off about grammar. Just sayin' :D
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the for one I thought about changing but just didn't and I had rewritten. I agree though, it was wrong. You, sir, also get a like for me.

As for the last one, you're incorrect. Upset is in the past tense.
 
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#230
#230
bamawriter said:
If the offense is running down the field to get "set", then no matter how quickly the defense tries to sub they will get hit with a substitution foul 9 out of 10 times. That's why my beef is with teams being allowed to get set and then move en masse.
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I'm in favor of the new rule. But without the new rule you can still sub if you get good at it. The O is still taking 20ish sec to get the next play off.
 
#231
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rjd970 said:
Then the D's should practice it and be prepared. No? Defense can sub every play if they want. If the offense can run a play in 10 seconds without subbing then it is on the D to stop it. It the same personnel as the play before, D should be able to stop it.

Same with the pre snap shift. The defense can shift as well. If personnel aren't changing the it is what it is. If the defense feels they can't stop certain formations without subbing then they can always try and sub or line-up the best they can. Completely disagree there is a sense of unfairness to the D in HUNH doing a pre snap shift. Nothing on the field has changed from the previous play. Nothing.
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Except it isn't a shift as allowed by the rules. Once the offense is set, there are a limited number of players that may go in motion. The entire team cannot stand up and then re-set. I have no idea why it has been allowed up to now, but it shouldn't be.

Again, I agree that if an offense wants to go as quick as possible, more power to them. OU ran several plays against Bama where they had stuff pre-scripted and didn't need to look at the sideline. They were snapping it 8 seconds into the playclock, and that's fine by me.

But it's this crap where the offense gets set and has no intention of snapping the ball anytime soon, but they want to get the defense stuck. I'm cool with that if the QB gets the play and then communicates it like an audible, but everyone else should have to stay set and run the risk of a communication breakdown.
 
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orangeslice13 said:
I'm in favor of the new rule. But without the new rule you can still sub if you get good at it. The O is still taking 20ish sec to get the next play off.
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If the offense is set, no subs are possible. If the defense tries to bring someone off the sideline while the offense is set, then the play has to be blown dead and a five yard foul assessed. Unless you're suggesting that an offensive player should get all the way off the field before his replacement comes on. That's taking twice the time of a normal substitution and seems to defeat the entire purpose.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Then this place must drive you crazy on a daily basis.
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I know people make mistakes sometimes. It happens. But there's a difference between "every once in a while" and "every single time I write because I don't actually know the differences"
 
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bamawriter said:
If the offense is set, no subs are possible. If the defense tries to bring someone off the sideline while the offense is set, then the play has to be blown dead and a five yard foul assessed. Unless you're suggesting that an offensive player should get all the way off the field before his replacement comes on. That's taking twice the time of a normal substitution and seems to defeat the entire purpose.
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You are correct in that. Your arguement about the O getting set also is correct. They should be flagged when the whole team shifts.

I've agreed with you more in this thread than in all other threads combined.
Yep, I'm now sure I'm wrong.
 
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#235
Honestly, how many plays are ran within 10 seconds of the 40 second clock starting?

I just watch the 1st 3 series of the Oregon/UT game and the fastest play Oregon ran was with 28 seconds left on the clock. Running a play within 10 seconds of the 40 second clock starting is very difficult to do. I don't think this rule will have that much of an actual impact.
 
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#237
orangeslice13 said:
Now Boca is on my side of the debate.



This won't end well
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I just choose to look at things objectively. :good!:

I'm sure there were faster O's in college football last year than Oregon's, but probably not in the SEC. It's really a non-issue if Oregon's fastest time was 12 seconds and about 19 on average.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Honestly, how many plays are ran within 10 seconds of the 40 second clock starting?

I just watch the 1st 3 series of the Oregon/UT game and the fastest play Oregon ran was with 28 seconds left on the clock. Running a play within 10 seconds of the 40 second clock starting is very difficult to do. I don't think this rule will have that much of an actual impact.
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The point that bama is making isn't that a team is snapping in 10 seconds, but that they're set and able to run a play, thereby forcing the defense to not be able to send in substitutes. Having the entire offense down in their stance forces no opportunity to substitute, even though they aren't planning on running a play for 10 more seconds.
 
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crusse10 said:
The point that bama is making isn't that a team is snapping in 10 seconds, but that they're set and able to run a play, thereby forcing the defense to not be able to send in substitutes. Having the entire offense down in their stance forces no opportunity to substitute, even though they aren't planning on running a play for 10 more seconds.
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He's correct. Throwing a flag on the O for coming out of a stance eliminates the need for this rule change.
 
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#240
crusse10 said:
the for one I thought about changing but just didn't and I had rewritten. I agree though, it was wrong. You, sir, also get a like for me.

As for the last one, you're incorrect. Upset is in the past tense.
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You sir a are the winner of the "most pointless posts." You're on a free website with people from bammer, of course you're getting poor grammar. And I should mention that you're on a free message board. Teach a class if you want to show people you have mad grammar skills, otherwise talk sports.
 
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smokey0625 said:
You sir a are the winner of the "most pointless posts." You're on a free website with people from bammer, of course you're getting poor grammar. And I should mention that you're on a free message board. Teach a class if you want to show people you have mad grammar skills, otherwise talk sports.
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But I bet you double-checked your post before hitting submit.

My work here is done.
 
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crusse10 said:
The point that bama is making isn't that a team is snapping in 10 seconds, but that they're set and able to run a play, thereby forcing the defense to not be able to send in substitutes. Having the entire offense down in their stance forces no opportunity to substitute, even though they aren't planning on running a play for 10 more seconds.
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orangeslice13 said:
He's correct. Throwing a flag on the O for coming out of a stance eliminates the need for this rule change.
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Good points. I was merely looking at when the play was snapped and not when the team was set. 2 different things! :salute:
 
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