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VolsSportsFan said:
It's also hard to put yourself back in the mindset of "this is a March sport" in November; even though in March we always say we need to remember how worthless November and December can be.

I looked back at Auburn FF season from 4 years ago and noticed in a December stretch they went to OT to beat a UAB team that lost in the first round of the CBI, lost at NC State who ended up in the NIT, and eeked out a win over Murray St.; while Murray did make the NCAAT winning the OVC....still an OVC team at home. And that Auburn team went 11-7 in the SEC and at the end of February was 7-7.

That Auburn team turned it on at the right time and went on a tear where the shots were falling and they peaked the right time. So I guess the moral is, and especially speaking to myself is to remember November might not mean a freakin' thing.
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And to this point, I've not gone looking for the usual suspects who drag their raincloud into the forum following any and every loss. In fact, I tried my best just to avoid the forum at all, yesterday, so I can't say if the Legions Of Miserable were out in full force, or not. But, the same clowns that want to tell us that the regular season doesn't matter, at all, in past seasons as many of us celebrate premier wins, #1 rankings, etc., ought not be first in line to rip us for losing a "meaningless" regular season game in November. If the Nov/Dec regular season successes don't matter, then surely the Nov/Dec regular season losses don't either.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Based on what I saw, I think the same criticism of rushed shots could be true of Santi, as well. Controlling the pace and getting the offense into their sets, that's on ZZ, and would require more viewing than I did to determine, so I'll defer on that note.
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Santi is our best shooter so I don't mind it as much when he rushes shots. The TO's from him have to stop though.
 
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cncchris33 said:
And to this point, I've not gone looking for the usual suspects who drag their raincloud into the forum following any and every loss. In fact, I tried my best just to avoid the forum at all, yesterday, so I can't say if the Legions Of Miserable were out in full force, or not. But, the same clowns that want to tell us that the regular season doesn't matter, at all, in past seasons as many of us celebrate premier wins, #1 rankings, etc., ought not be first in line to rip us for losing a "meaningless" regular season game in November. If the Nov/Dec regular season successes don't matter, then surely the Nov/Dec regular season losses don't either.
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This loss is definitely not a “panic mode” loss although it is a bad loss. To me, it is not the loss on our record that matters, it is mostly the red flags and how we played that is most concerning. I am hopeful that we can resolve our inefficiencies from inside the perimeter by March. This team has to have more of an identity than spread the floor and shoot the 3, otherwise if a game like yesterday and Michigan happen once again in March we are toast. Plenty of time to fix that though.
 
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Yesterday showed just how good KC was and why it would have been great to land a transfer PG if we couldn't have found an elite HS pg. That said, I think yesterday was more a product of just horrible shooting. People are complaining about the offense but we got a lot of open shots and just missed. Had we shot even decently in the 1st half we are ahead double digits and the outcome is likely different.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Yesterday showed just how good KC was and why it would have been great to land a transfer PG if we couldn't have found an elite HS pg. That said, I think yesterday was more a product of just horrible shooting. People are complaining about the offense but we got a lot of open shots and just missed. Had we shot even decently in the 1st half we are ahead double digits and the outcome is likely different.
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The issue is still where those shots are coming from, though. We got a lot of open looks from 25’, but we still, like last year, aren’t getting looks at the rim or in the paint. We just seem to settle for those outside looks, and when we are on, that’s fine, but yesterday was a carbon copy of the Texas Tech game, last year, just with more FTs.

-We launched 39 3s vs TTU and 37 3s vs Colorado, making 6 and 10, respectively.
-Santi and ZZ were a combined 3-17 from 3 against TTU and a combined 4-17 from 3 against Colorado.
-Over 55% of our total shots came from 3 in both games.
-We got outrebounded by 7 against TTU and 9 against Colorado.
 
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It wasn't the amount of threes we took for me, it was where we took them from. Some of those shots were way past NBA range.
 
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cncchris33 said:
The issue is still where those shots are coming from, though. We got a lot of open looks from 25’, but we still, like last year, aren’t getting looks at the rim or in the paint. We just seem to settle for those outside looks, and when we are on, that’s fine, but yesterday was a carbon copy of the Texas Tech game, last year, just with more FTs.

-We launched 39 3s vs TTU and 37 3s vs Colorado, making 6 and 10, respectively.
-Santi and ZZ were a combined 3-17 from 3 against TTU and a combined 4-17 from 3 against Colorado.
-Over 55% of our total shots came from 3 in both games.
-We got outrebounded by 7 against TTU and 9 against Colorado.
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I don't disagree, rebounding was especially bad since that's an effort play. Vescovi missed several wide open shots off curls 6 inches behind the line. We missed several wide open corner threes too. I'd love to see Aidoo post someone up and use his height to shoot over them. JJJ could be effective in the post too imo.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I don't disagree, rebounding was especially bad since that's an effort play. Vescovi missed several wide open shots off curls 6 inches behind the line. We missed several wide open corner threes too. I'd love to see Aidoo post someone up and use his height to shoot over them. JJJ could be effective in the post too imo.
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Part of me wonders if this was the reason Awaka got some playing time. It was only 3 minutes and it didn't translate to any production, but based on his 3 rebounds in 6 minutes vs Tech, I wonder if Barnes was trying to send a message to the other guys about their effort on the boards.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Part of me wonders if this was the reason Awaka got some playing time. It was only 3 minutes and it didn't translate to any production, but based on his 3 rebounds in 6 minutes vs Tech, I wonder if Barnes was trying to send a message to the other guys about their effort on the boards.
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Heck, his 3 boards and block were some of the game's best effort plays. Aidoo should be a 10-8-2 blocks guy vs a lot of teams if he'd just go to work.
 
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Good grief. We go through this every. damn. season. These guys know what they’re getting into when they come here. To me, it seems Barnes calls players out, specifically veterans who he knows will respond well to it, because of mutual respect. They’re all big boys and everyone has a job to do. The coaches spend the week putting them into a position to succeed. Our guys are expected to come out and execute the gameplan against their opponents. They didn’t do that yesterday, so we heard candidly in postgame what the problems were. Barnes has put himself and the staff at fault in the postgame before and will do it again. Seems pretty obvious that Sunday was on our guys giving awful effort on the glass and defense, so we heard Rick speak the way he did postgame. Nothing more to this, we probably respond well on Wednesday like usual. This is all well documented, how Barnes speaks postgame, so if our players can’t handle it, they shouldn’t come here (but they can and they did). /rant and /the endless discussion demonizing RB for calling out vets after bad losses.
 
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Turner has had a beef with Barnes a long time. Not sure what all the details are exactly, but he didn’t handle some things well when he was here.
 
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